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08-05-2023 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by XXIV
Would it be possible to include aggregated turn frequencies? That is, if a player made a cbet, how often it follows through on the turn, or the overall probe turn frequency. Maybe even extend this to river frequencies.
I'll see if we can store this data at the end of a solve, and create some way of browsing it.
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08-06-2023 , 05:03 PM
when I open one sim database, this happens
today was working fully, for no reason file is broken or something.
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08-07-2023 , 12:21 AM
Hey, looking to beg buy or borrow some GTO+ Sims. Have been using Wizard exclusively since I got back into poker, but I already own +. Would like to just have the Sims to have them. Play around with node locking and long term maybe take months off from paying for Wizard.

My computer is not amazing. 5GB of RAM or so available estimated in the GTO+ software. I'm assuming if I get Sims from somewhere else, my computer won't have to re-solve them?

Sorry if this is a bad thread to post this request in. If anyone can help me out, please reply or DM me. Thanks.
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08-07-2023 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ColliePoker
Hey, looking to beg buy or borrow some GTO+ Sims. Have been using Wizard exclusively since I got back into poker, but I already own +. Would like to just have the Sims to have them. Play around with node locking and long term maybe take months off from paying for Wizard.
My computer is not amazing. 5GB of RAM or so available estimated in the GTO+ software. I'm assuming if I get Sims from somewhere else, my computer won't have to re-solve them? Sorry if this is a bad thread to post this request in. If anyone can help me out, please reply or DM me. Thanks.
We don't offer sims ourselves, but it's possible that someone here can help you.

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Originally Posted by ColliePoker
I'm assuming if I get Sims from somewhere else, my computer won't have to re-solve them?
Yes, the RAM is only needed for solving.
However, if the savefiles are very large, then RAM will also be needed to store their trees into memory.
In this case, you can still load specific trees from the file with "File->Open: Load only a selection of trees".


Last edited by scylla; 08-07-2023 at 02:41 AM.
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08-07-2023 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SenatorMorra
when I open one sim database, this happens
today was working fully, for no reason file is broken or something.
It appears that the file was damaged, which is something that can happen.
The option to partially load the file should load it up until the point of the damaged section.
If you want us to take a look at the savefile, then please send it to support.

Last edited by scylla; 08-07-2023 at 02:45 AM.
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08-09-2023 , 09:53 AM
Hey Scy , do you think it would be possible to make it so we can open a new sim/window from another sim? For example, I am looking at a BB vs BTN sim and want to open one for BB vs EP without clicking the icon and without closing the first sim.
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08-09-2023 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Demiurgus
Hey Scy , do you think it would be possible to make it so we can open a new sim/window from another sim? For example, I am looking at a BB vs BTN sim and want to open one for BB vs EP without clicking the icon and without closing the first sim.
Multiple instances of GTO+ can be open at the same time.
So you should be able to start a second window of GTO+ from your desktop.

Last edited by scylla; 08-09-2023 at 11:46 AM.
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08-11-2023 , 11:17 AM
Not sure how others use the program, but when i'm playing against the solution i like to look at the solution to see what the range does in the particular scenario. The only way to look at it while playing against the solution is to close the table look at the solution and go back and forth.

It would be nice if we could see both at the same time. A popup window with the solution would be even better. We could split the screen with playing against the solution in one window and the solution/tree/ranges on other.

Not sure if i got the names rigth, but i'm talking about these two:



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08-12-2023 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilips
Not sure how others use the program, but when i'm playing against the solution i like to look at the solution to see what the range does in the particular scenario. The only way to look at it while playing against the solution is to close the table look at the solution and go back and forth.
It would be nice if we could see both at the same time. A popup window with the solution would be even better. We could split the screen with playing against the solution in one window and the solution/tree/ranges on other.
Not sure if i got the names rigth, but i'm talking about these two:

I'll make a note of your suggestion, and see if we can get it to work.
Technically speaking, this may not be entirely straightforward though.
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08-23-2023 , 03:34 AM
Hi Scylla,

Is it possible to lock the "Edit action colors" to certain bet sizes, or a range of bet sizes (like: 25-40% color X, 41-60 color Y, 61-90 color Z, etc.)?

On the flop I use 33% or 75%. But on the turn/river I use 75% or 150%.
With the options available now (Highest/Lowest bet size), the colors for the same betsize is different on the flop (75% = purple) and turn (75% = red).

FLOP (75% is purple):


TURN (75% is red):





Or is it already possible to do that?
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08-23-2023 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GeleHaas
Hi Scylla,
Is it possible to lock the "Edit action colors" to certain bet sizes, or a range of bet sizes (like: 25-40% color X, 41-60 color Y, 61-90 color Z, etc.)?
On the flop I use 33% or 75%. But on the turn/river I use 75% or 150%.
With the options available now (Highest/Lowest bet size), the colors for the same betsize is different on the flop (75% = purple) and turn (75% = red).
FLOP (75% is purple):

TURN (75% is red):


Or is it already possible to do that?
This isn't currently available, but I'll see if we can add this option as well.
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08-23-2023 , 09:35 PM
Okay, thank you!
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08-27-2023 , 03:38 AM
Maybe add a favorite hands option in session history in play against the solution
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08-27-2023 , 08:04 AM
Hi Scylla,

With GTO+ its possible de Aggr report the Turn or River like PIO?

For example if I manage to make solve 1755 flop in the DB possible to know the average freq of 3barrel ?
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08-27-2023 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lagux
Maybe add a favorite hands option in session history in play against the solution
Ok, we will take it into consideration.
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08-27-2023 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lefroidcestmal
Hi Scylla,
With GTO+ its possible de Aggr report the Turn or River like PIO?
For example if I manage to make solve 1755 flop in the DB possible to know the average freq of 3barrel ?
We offer aggregate frequencies over the flops, but not beyond that.
This is because turn aggregate frequencies are an average of an average.
And river aggregate frequencies are an average of an average of an average.
An additional complication here is that some lines are reached 1% of the time, whereas others are reached 80% of the time.
And all of these values, with completely different boards and ranges are added up and averaged.
In the end, I believe that the resulting values will, from any practical perspective, not be particularly useful.
That being said, the data is available at the end of the solve, so I can check if we can somehow add it in a report.
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08-27-2023 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We offer aggregate frequencies over the flops, but not beyond that.
This is because turn aggregate frequencies are an average of an average.
And river aggregate frequencies are an average of an average of an average.
An additional complication here is that some lines are reached 1% of the time, whereas others are reached 80% of the time.
And all of these values, with completely different boards and ranges are added up and averaged.
In the end, I believe that the resulting values will, from any practical perspective, not be particularly useful.
That being said, the data is available at the end of the solve, so I can check if we can somehow add it in a report.
This is very helpful to have these averages because we can check if we fold more than GTO instead of MDF or bet too much with hands if we use good hands for that, etc. We can filter reg vs reg stats, so these statistics are very, very useful on the turn and river.
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08-28-2023 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lefroidcestmal
This is very helpful to have these averages because we can check if we fold more than GTO instead of MDF or bet too much with hands if we use good hands for that, etc. We can filter reg vs reg stats, so these statistics are very, very useful on the turn and river.
We'll see if we can include a report on the frequencies after the main solve.
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08-28-2023 , 03:05 AM
Hello, in 4bet spot UTGvsBTN solver suggests to bet range for half pot on AK2 which has massive advantage for 4bettor, feels like bad? probably because the ranges for UTG have 70% equity on this board but still, It doesnt use 10% pot sizing which should be used half the time, ranges are from GTOW btw,
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08-28-2023 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We'll see if we can include a report on the frequencies after the main solve.
If you can add Flop ponderation filter also for all average will be extremely usefull, thanks Scylla.
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08-28-2023 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SenatorMorra
Hello, in 4bet spot UTGvsBTN solver suggests to bet range for half pot on AK2 which has massive advantage for 4bettor, feels like bad? probably because the ranges for UTG have 70% equity on this board but still, It doesnt use 10% pot sizing which should be used half the time, ranges are from GTOW btw,
I don't immediately see an issue, but if you can send a savefile to support, then I'll take a closer look.
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08-28-2023 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I don't immediately see an issue, but if you can send a savefile to support, then I'll take a closer look.
I mean other solvers betting 10% on this board with same ranges, which should be happenning a lot, no one bets topset in 4bet pot for 50% sizing.
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08-28-2023 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SenatorMorra
I mean other solvers betting 10% on this board with same ranges, which should be happenning a lot, no one bets topset in 4bet pot for 50% sizing.
As I said in my previous post, I'll need to see a savefile in order to answer your question.
So if you can send it to support, then I'll take a look at it.
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08-28-2023 , 02:23 PM
https://gyazo.com/54a6d97f2c4a12b2ec4c3d9634851783

Scy!

Do you think it is feasible to add popups when we pass the mouse over the matrix combo?

That can oscillate oscillate EV, EQ, Freq of action (or show all the data)

Maybe put an on/off switch?
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08-28-2023 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
https://gyazo.com/54a6d97f2c4a12b2ec4c3d9634851783
Scy!
Do you think it is feasible to add popups when we pass the mouse over the matrix combo?
That can oscillate oscillate EV, EQ, Freq of action (or show all the data)
Maybe put an on/off switch?
You can press F1 to toggle to combos, F2 for frequencies, and F3 for EV.
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