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01-17-2023 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If "Extensive" storage is used, then you can select a specific hand, and only check the report for that particular hand.

See below for a spot where the board is A97, and OOP holds 99 for a set.
Apparently, all A,7,4-2 mean that OOP checks, and K-T,5 will lead to a bet.
Several output types are available; these can be set in the upper right.

We can consider adding this for groups of hands as well, although frankly, it sounds a bit messy, given that hand types tend to switch depending on which turn comes off (if you have a flushdraw on the flop, then it can become a flush, remain a flushdraw, become top pair, etc). It's something that can be calculated, but it will be an average of completely different scenarios.

Exactly, I have heard it in the tutorial of the software in question.

I think that what can be extracted in good detail are heuristics, that is:

* on the X turn where my FD doesn't complete, overall my bet/check frequencies are these.

* or en X turn when flush complete, how much i wanna bet Flushes, or 2P or my sets, etc.... i think its good to have an "visualization" and go more in details if we want (see one turn and look the matrix)

* on X Turns how my top pairs play. (This point is a bit tricky because TP on the flop would cease to be if an Overcard falls), but it is understood that it would become midpair.

I found this tool quite interesting since it allows us to visualize how in general he wants to play specific parts of our range (it is a good gauge of when we are being value heavy unprotecting the check range or vice versa).


Its good idea to find patterns i guess
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zlc...ew?usp=sharing

here is the tutorial, you found this on "features 1.0 or 2.0" if im not remember bad.
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01-17-2023 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Exactly, I have heard it in the tutorial of the software in question.
I think that what can be extracted in good detail are heuristics, that is:
* on the X turn where my FD doesn't complete, overall my bet/check frequencies are these.
* or en X turn when flush complete, how much i wanna bet Flushes, or 2P or my sets, etc.... i think its good to have an "visualization" and go more in details if we want (see one turn and look the matrix)
* on X Turns how my top pairs play. (This point is a bit tricky because TP on the flop would cease to be if an Overcard falls), but it is understood that it would become midpair.
I found this tool quite interesting since it allows us to visualize how in general he wants to play specific parts of our range (it is a good gauge of when we are being value heavy unprotecting the check range or vice versa).
Its good idea to find patterns i guess
here is the tutorial, you found this on "features 1.0 or 2.0" if im not remember bad.
I can consider it for future releases, but, once again, this would be a feature that would only work in certain spots, and incorrectly in others.
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01-17-2023 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
To start a new hand, press F1.
Thanks, works for my purposes and is easy enough.
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01-18-2023 , 03:06 AM
Please, make it switchable to % of the pot here.

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01-18-2023 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexx_Bk
Please, make it switchable to % of the pot here.
If you mouse over the bet, then a popup will show the % of the pot.

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01-18-2023 , 01:23 PM
Hi, i really love the aesthetics of the new subsets, having the same suits always is really nice.
Is there anyway i can change the suits of older simulations?
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01-19-2023 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos243
Hi, i really love the aesthetics of the new subsets, having the same suits always is really nice.
Is there anyway i can change the suits of older simulations?
I don't think that we can change this retro-actively.
It would mean that we would need to apply suit-switching to possibly a few dozen spots in the code.
There would be a significant risk of overlooking a spot, and introducing bugs that would be difficult to fix.
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01-19-2023 , 09:35 AM
Hello scylla, it is no longer possible to see the % of each action of a database, in my last database nothing appears



My last database
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01-19-2023 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagreo
Hello scylla, it is no longer possible to see the % of each action of a database, in my last database nothing appears

My last database
Can you please check if the preflop ranges are suit symmetrical?
So, for example, AA-QQ,AhKh is not suit symmetrical, because there's AhKh, but not AcKc,AdKd,AsKs.
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01-19-2023 , 06:32 PM
OOP range copy and paste from HRC, IP range is from ranges saved in GTO+




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01-19-2023 , 06:46 PM
I changed the range that I copied/pasted from the HRC and I created it by giving it the weights in GTO+, and it seems to be solved (4 hands resolved and the % is shown)

thanks for the information, for the great work with GTO+

and sorry for my english from google translator xD
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01-20-2023 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Zagreo
I changed the range that I copied/pasted from the HRC and I created it by giving it the weights in GTO+, and it seems to be solved (4 hands resolved and the % is shown)
thanks for the information, for the great work with GTO+
and sorry for my english from google translator xD
If you mouse over the hands in the matrix, then in the right, the suits will be displayed (unless all suits have the same weight; in this case we only display the weight). So you can check for yourself whether the original range was suit symmetrical.

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01-20-2023 , 05:53 AM
In the OOp range, which is the one that gave conflict, I pass the mouse but it does not show the suits in any hand

here the range
AA,AJs-ATs,87s,QJo,[99.9]66,K5s,JTs,KQo[/99.9],[99.8]Q9s,J9s,T9s,97s[/99.8],[99.7]65s,54s[/99.7],[99.5]K8s,ATo[/99.5],[99.4]A9s,Q8s,76s,KJo[/99.4],[99.3]86s[/99.3],[99.0]98s[/99.0],[98.8]44,A8s,QTs,T8s[/98.8],[98.6]K6s[/98.6],[98.5]AQs,Q7s[/98.5],[98.4]J8s[/98.4],[97.9]K7s[/97.9],[97.4]K4s[/97.4],[97.2]75s[/97.2],[97.1]KQs[/97.1],[96.7]K9s[/96.7],[95.9]KJs[/95.9],[95.2]T7s[/95.2],[94.3]J7s[/94.3],[91.1]55[/91.1],[90.2]96s[/90.2],[89.4]A5s[/89.4],[89.2]KTs[/89.2],[81.5]22[/81.5],[75.8]Q6s[/75.8],[75.6]88[/75.6],[68.5]QJs[/68.5],[65.8]AQo[/65.8],[65.5]A3s[/65.5],[60.6]AJo[/60.6],[41.2]85s[/41.2],[31.2]A4s[/31.2],[28.6]A6s[/28.6],[25.8]A7s[/25.8],[23.2]77[/23.2],[16.5]A2s[/16.5],[8.50]33[/8.50],[6.10]T6s[/6.10],[4.70]64s[/4.70],[3.80]99[/3.80],[0.70]KK[/0.70],[0.10]J6s,43s[/0.10]
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01-20-2023 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagreo
In the OOp range, which is the one that gave conflict, I pass the mouse but it does not show the suits in any hand

here the range
AA,AJs-ATs,87s,QJo,[99.9]66,K5s,JTs,KQo[/99.9],[99.8]Q9s,J9s,T9s,97s[/99.8],[99.7]65s,54s[/99.7],[99.5]K8s,ATo[/99.5],[99.4]A9s,Q8s,76s,KJo[/99.4],[99.3]86s[/99.3],[99.0]98s[/99.0],[98.8]44,A8s,QTs,T8s[/98.8],[98.6]K6s[/98.6],[98.5]AQs,Q7s[/98.5],[98.4]J8s[/98.4],[97.9]K7s[/97.9],[97.4]K4s[/97.4],[97.2]75s[/97.2],[97.1]KQs[/97.1],[96.7]K9s[/96.7],[95.9]KJs[/95.9],[95.2]T7s[/95.2],[94.3]J7s[/94.3],[91.1]55[/91.1],[90.2]96s[/90.2],[89.4]A5s[/89.4],[89.2]KTs[/89.2],[81.5]22[/81.5],[75.8]Q6s[/75.8],[75.6]88[/75.6],[68.5]QJs[/68.5],[65.8]AQo[/65.8],[65.5]A3s[/65.5],[60.6]AJo[/60.6],[41.2]85s[/41.2],[31.2]A4s[/31.2],[28.6]A6s[/28.6],[25.8]A7s[/25.8],[23.2]77[/23.2],[16.5]A2s[/16.5],[8.50]33[/8.50],[6.10]T6s[/6.10],[4.70]64s[/4.70],[3.80]99[/3.80],[0.70]KK[/0.70],[0.10]J6s,43s[/0.10]
That range is indeed suit symmetrical.
I have created a database with it, and aggregate reports are being displayed when using this range.
So the issue was probably to be found elsewhere.

Another reason could be that the trees in the database were not identical.
So if one tree has "Bet 10", and the other has "Bet 5", then the trees are not the same, and it will not be possible to add their results together.

Last edited by scylla; 01-20-2023 at 03:48 PM.
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01-20-2023 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
That range is indeed suit symmetrical.
I have created a database with it, and aggregate reports are being displayed when using this range.
So the issue was probably to be found elsewhere.

Another reason could be that the trees in the database were not identical.
So if one tree has "Bet 10", and the other has "Bet 5", then the trees are not the same, and it will not be possible to add their results together.
Ok thanks I'll keep it in mind for future databases.
Now I will always check when starting with the first flops that everything is fine. and not at the end like the last time.
Thanks again.
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01-22-2023 , 03:06 AM
I think it would be better if green color is optimal play and red + yellow are suboptimal. Makes more sense to me, since it doesn't matter whether you win a hand.

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01-22-2023 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexx_Bk
I think it would be better if green color is optimal play and red + yellow are suboptimal. Makes more sense to me, since it doesn't matter whether you win a hand.
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Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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01-22-2023 , 12:44 PM
Scy, about this, its possible to do in the future?

Select some filters and look the overall frequency of group of hands.




And this.. We have, but i think its a good idea like one popup when look into a action specific

https://gyazo.com/73bacddd476c96458e1fc2d8e1a92c29
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01-23-2023 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Scy, about this, its possible to do in the future?
Select some filters and look the overall frequency of group of hands.
And this.. We have, but i think its a good idea like one popup when look into a action specific
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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01-25-2023 , 02:12 PM
Scy, again...(you must hate me a lot xD)

Add the ability to export flops in a new GTO+ windows when working on a subset.

I explain?
It would be similar to the idea of ​​the turn export, where we can remove or add sizings, nodelock etc.

This can be done in database mode, simply by adding the same flop (which is not possible in subset), but being able to have it in 2 different windows allows for better comparison
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01-25-2023 , 06:18 PM
Is it possible to edit trees based on the specific turn/river card?

For example, if the board is KdTd6s and I want to have only a 150% size or check on the 2c turn and only 75% size or check on the 7d turn (both in the same turn cbet line)?
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01-26-2023 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Not Today
Is it possible to edit trees based on the specific turn/river card?
For example, if the board is KdTd6s and I want to have only a 150% size or check on the 2c turn and only 75% size or check on the 7d turn (both in the same turn cbet line)?
Currently, the lines need to have the same sizings.
We could consider adding some customization options, at the risk of the interface becoming increasingly difficult to work with.

Last edited by scylla; 01-26-2023 at 03:58 AM.
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01-26-2023 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Scy, again...(you must hate me a lot xD)
Add the ability to export flops in a new GTO+ windows when working on a subset.
I explain?
It would be similar to the idea of ​​the turn export, where we can remove or add sizings, nodelock etc.
This can be done in database mode, simply by adding the same flop (which is not possible in subset), but being able to have it in 2 different windows allows for better comparison
Ok, I'll consider it for future releases.
For example, we could use ALT+right-click to export a tree.

Last edited by scylla; 01-26-2023 at 03:58 AM.
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01-26-2023 , 06:19 AM
Please, make it possible to switch between streets without need to select action again. Like clicking somewhere in the red dot area.

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01-26-2023 , 09:30 AM
I believe this has been already asked, but is it possible (or will it be) to train for a specific spot, rather than every time starting the hand on the flop?
For example if I want to train for BTNvsBB turn barrels, I would like to bring the game tree to the point where BB checked the flop, BTN cbets, BB calls, turn comes, BB check. At this decision point BTN has the opportunity to bet or check, and I would like to train only that node of the game tree, how can I achieve that?

Thank you!
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