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I have "33,50,66,Ac" on Turn bet OOP but the only bet i get on Turn is ALL-IN. No 33/50/66, just all-in.

My intention was to have 4 sizes on Turn, 33/50/66 and all-in. All-in just when i cbet the Flop, hence the "c", when it goes check/check on Flop i don't want an all-in option (to save RAM).

I'm using the "Ac" wrong? BTW, version 1.4.2, get money in smoothly, don't donk and add/go all-in are all off.

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06-24-2022 , 08:59 AM

#12877

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

ok i think just locking the strategy on the all turn for all the decision points of one of the two players is fine.

The problem when we node lock the flop for example by overfolding one of the two players is that on the turn he will call must loose to make us indifferent to bluffing, but in practice this will not necessarily be the case, which may change the strategy and remove the bluff turn which gives up river

the same thing happens when we overcall a player on the flop, it is likely that he will overfold on the turn, if we lock the turn it will be the case, and we will always bluff

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06-24-2022 , 04:27 PM

#12878

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by Hilips

I have "33,50,66,Ac" on Turn bet OOP but the only bet i get on Turn is ALL-IN. No 33/50/66, just all-in.
My intention was to have 4 sizes on Turn, 33/50/66 and all-in. All-in just when i cbet the Flop, hence the "c", when it goes check/check on Flop i don't want an all-in option (to save RAM).
I'm using the "Ac" wrong? BTW, version 1.4.2, get money in smoothly, don't donk and add/go all-in are all off.

Can you send a savefile to support?

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06-24-2022 , 04:28 PM

#12879

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinet

ok i think just locking the strategy on the all turn for all the decision points of one of the two players is fine.
The problem when we node lock the flop for example by overfolding one of the two players is that on the turn he will call must loose to make us indifferent to bluffing, but in practice this will not necessarily be the case, which may change the strategy and remove the bluff turn which gives up river
the same thing happens when we overcall a player on the flop, it is likely that he will overfold on the turn, if we lock the turn it will be the case, and we will always bluff

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-24-2022 , 04:42 PM

#12880

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 245

Scy how are you?

I was thinking that some option to NOT show the strategy in the matrix would be nice.

This would serve, for example, to foresee how we plays a range or parts of it and then "corroborate" it.

Pio has a similar option, where clicking on the node again is when it shows you the strategy in the matrix.

This option can be both enabled and disabled.

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06-24-2022 , 04:58 PM

#12881

Hilips

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 803

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Originally Posted by scylla

Can you send a savefile to support?

Done.

BTW, i have tested with "A" instead of "Ac" and works just fine. Just happens with the "Ac", turn or river.

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06-25-2022 , 02:04 AM

#12882

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by Mates.

Scy how are you?
I was thinking that some option to NOT show the strategy in the matrix would be nice.
This would serve, for example, to foresee how we plays a range or parts of it and then "corroborate" it.
Pio has a similar option, where clicking on the node again is when it shows you the strategy in the matrix.
This option can be both enabled and disabled.

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-25-2022 , 02:18 AM

#12883

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by Hilips

Done.
BTW, i have tested with "A" instead of "Ac" and works just fine. Just happens with the "Ac", turn or river.

Oh, I see now.
Your input is 33,50,66,Ac

This means:
In general: 33,50,66
Cbet spot: Use All-in.

If you want the cbet situation to be 33,50,66,A, then the input will need to be:
33,50,66,33c,50c,66c,Ac

Last edited by scylla; 06-25-2022 at 02:24 AM.

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06-25-2022 , 03:07 AM

#12884

Hilips

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 803

Ah, that works. Never cross my mind to do that way. lol

Back to solving.

Thank you very much.

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06-26-2022 , 05:13 AM

#12885

JackOscar

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 47

Hi,

Is there a way to copy betting ranges when node locking? What I'm interested in doing is forcing the solver to bet the same range but with a larger size. So instead of c-betting for 25% with a certain range I want to node lock it to bet that exact same range but with 50% size.

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06-26-2022 , 08:01 AM

#12886

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackOscar

Hi,
Is there a way to copy betting ranges when node locking? What I'm interested in doing is forcing the solver to bet the same range but with a larger size. So instead of c-betting for 25% with a certain range I want to node lock it to bet that exact same range but with 50% size.

You can copy-paste ranges between two trees.
For this, open two windows of GTO+.
In the source tree, go to the "Output" icon below the table, and click on "Copy to clipboard".
In the target tree, do the same, and click on "Paste from clipboard".

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06-26-2022 , 06:42 PM

#12887

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

Hello Scylla here is a not very important detail, but if it could be improved it is always better

it's the padlock when you nood lock a flop, it's not very visible in white

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06-27-2022 , 02:06 AM

#12888

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by robinet

Hello Scylla here is a not very important detail, but if it could be improved it is always better
it's the padlock when you nood lock a flop, it's not very visible in white

Ok, we seem to have overlooked that.
I'll take care of it for v143.

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06-28-2022 , 02:48 PM

#12889

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

Hello Scylla

There is some graphic problem on flopzilla with the dark mode

notes are not visible

and there is another problem with the equity graph, where the cards are written in black on a black background

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06-28-2022 , 04:12 PM

#12890

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

It would also be nice to add an option to the filter to select a particular suit for combos. for example here I would like to put in the filter all the T9, and T8 but without the spade

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06-29-2022 , 01:59 AM

#12891

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by robinet

Hello Scylla
There is some graphic problem on flopzilla with the dark mode
notes are not visible
and there is another problem with the equity graph, where the cards are written in black on a black background

Ok, I'll take care of this for the next update.

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06-29-2022 , 02:00 AM

#12892

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinet

It would also be nice to add an option to the filter to select a particular suit for combos. for example here I would like to put in the filter all the T9, and T8 but without the spade

You can create a filter for specific suits in the "Create combined statistics" section.
See the screenshot below.

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06-29-2022 , 03:32 PM

#12893

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

Hello Scylla

is it possible to output the range of cardrunnersEV with the weights ?

here it is possible to output the range, but it does not take into account the weights atrbuete in early action.

And i can't export flopzilla or GTO+ ranges on cardrunner EV, it's giving me the error

cardrunnersEV offers things that GTO+ does not, so it would be nice to be able to export the ranges.

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06-30-2022 , 02:18 AM

#12894

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by robinet

Hello Scylla
is it possible to output the range of cardrunnersEV with the weights ?
here it is possible to output the range, but it does not take into account the weights atrbuete in early action.

And i can't export flopzilla or GTO+ ranges on cardrunner EV, it's giving me the error
cardrunnersEV offers things that GTO+ does not, so it would be nice to be able to export the ranges.

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-30-2022 , 06:44 AM

#12895

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

Hello scylla
I can't open files saved on cardrunnersEV
Do I have to register like on GTO+ or flopzilla?
because I can't find how to do it.

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06-30-2022 , 07:54 AM

#12896

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 45

a priori my license must be activated because when I open the software everything works.
I don't understand why I can't open the saved files.

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06-30-2022 , 09:37 AM

#12897

1BigOT

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 881

Hi Scylla,

I've really enjoyed the 'GX' code feature for merging similar bet sizes. I have also found a more specific use case that I am wondering if you'd add.

Would it be possible to replicate the feature of G, but specifically when close to All-ins? Something like AX, where <X would round into the all-in size?

Personally, I've found a lot of use cases that would be something like G10, A25. Thank you.

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06-30-2022 , 10:15 AM

#12898

5plus5=55

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 324

Please help

If IP has 100% i.e 4 combos of say 76s

OOP bets flop and IP calls with only 1 combo of 7h6h and folds 3 combos , in matrix on flop it shows correctly with 25% green and 75% red

But on turn when OOP bets again now in matrix on turn when IP calls 100% with 7h6h why box shows all green although there is only 1 combo ?

I know IP called 100% but can we see that box with only 25% green color and rest black as normal to get better visualization ?

Thanks