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I have "33,50,66,Ac" on Turn bet OOP but the only bet i get on Turn is ALL-IN. No 33/50/66, just all-in.

My intention was to have 4 sizes on Turn, 33/50/66 and all-in. All-in just when i cbet the Flop, hence the "c", when it goes check/check on Flop i don't want an all-in option (to save RAM).

I'm using the "Ac" wrong? BTW, version 1.4.2, get money in smoothly, don't donk and add/go all-in are all off.

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06-24-2022 , 08:59 AM

#12877

robinet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 24

ok i think just locking the strategy on the all turn for all the decision points of one of the two players is fine.

The problem when we node lock the flop for example by overfolding one of the two players is that on the turn he will call must loose to make us indifferent to bluffing, but in practice this will not necessarily be the case, which may change the strategy and remove the bluff turn which gives up river

the same thing happens when we overcall a player on the flop, it is likely that he will overfold on the turn, if we lock the turn it will be the case, and we will always bluff

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06-24-2022 , 04:27 PM

#12878

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,724

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Originally Posted by Hilips

I have "33,50,66,Ac" on Turn bet OOP but the only bet i get on Turn is ALL-IN. No 33/50/66, just all-in.
My intention was to have 4 sizes on Turn, 33/50/66 and all-in. All-in just when i cbet the Flop, hence the "c", when it goes check/check on Flop i don't want an all-in option (to save RAM).
I'm using the "Ac" wrong? BTW, version 1.4.2, get money in smoothly, don't donk and add/go all-in are all off.

Can you send a savefile to support?

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06-24-2022 , 04:28 PM

#12879

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,724

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Originally Posted by robinet

ok i think just locking the strategy on the all turn for all the decision points of one of the two players is fine.
The problem when we node lock the flop for example by overfolding one of the two players is that on the turn he will call must loose to make us indifferent to bluffing, but in practice this will not necessarily be the case, which may change the strategy and remove the bluff turn which gives up river
the same thing happens when we overcall a player on the flop, it is likely that he will overfold on the turn, if we lock the turn it will be the case, and we will always bluff

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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06-24-2022 , 04:42 PM

#12880

Mates.

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 89

Scy how are you?

I was thinking that some option to NOT show the strategy in the matrix would be nice.

This would serve, for example, to foresee how we plays a range or parts of it and then "corroborate" it.

Pio has a similar option, where clicking on the node again is when it shows you the strategy in the matrix.

This option can be both enabled and disabled.

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06-24-2022 , 04:58 PM

#12881

Hilips

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 784

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Originally Posted by scylla

Can you send a savefile to support?

Done.

BTW, i have tested with "A" instead of "Ac" and works just fine. Just happens with the "Ac", turn or river.

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Yesterday , 02:04 AM

#12882

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,724

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Originally Posted by Mates.

Scy how are you?
I was thinking that some option to NOT show the strategy in the matrix would be nice.
This would serve, for example, to foresee how we plays a range or parts of it and then "corroborate" it.
Pio has a similar option, where clicking on the node again is when it shows you the strategy in the matrix.
This option can be both enabled and disabled.

Ok, I will consider it for future releases.

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Yesterday , 02:18 AM

#12883

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,724

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Originally Posted by Hilips

Done.
BTW, i have tested with "A" instead of "Ac" and works just fine. Just happens with the "Ac", turn or river.

Oh, I see now.
Your input is 33,50,66,Ac

This means:
In general: 33,50,66
Cbet spot: Use All-in.

If you want the cbet situation to be 33,50,66,A, then the input will need to be:
33,50,66,33c,50c,66c,Ac

Last edited by scylla; Yesterday at 02:24 AM.