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05-04-2022 , 09:27 AM
Hello Scylla, it is possible for the next update to add king high and no draw stats.
and to be able to filter several statistics at the same time
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05-04-2022 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by robinet
Hello Scylla, it is possible for the next update to add king high and no draw stats.
and to be able to filter several statistics at the same time
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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05-05-2022 , 11:16 AM
Hello Scylla, I don't understand what this setting is for.



Is it to choose which GTO+ window can connect to flopzilla?
Because when I have multiple windows open, only the first window can connect.
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05-05-2022 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by robinet
Hello Scylla, I don't understand what this setting is for.



Is it to choose which GTO+ window can connect to flopzilla?
Because when I have multiple windows open, only the first window can connect.
"Port nr" is a technical setting; it's basically which "phone number" FlopzillaPro should call in order to reach GTO+.
Only one GTO+ window can be connected to FlopzillaPro.
Technically it's possible to let multiple windows of GTO+ connect to multiple windows of FlopzillaPro, but I think that this may be too confusing for practical purposes.
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05-06-2022 , 02:03 AM
Integrated GTO+ Weighted Subsets Query

Hi Scylla,

Hope you are well.

I export and conduct aggregate report analysis outside of GTO+ using Python to utilise some basic but refined filtering options that I have coded. Although the code works as intended, my filtered averages outputs are slightly inaccuracte at the moment as each board is considered at full weighting (which of course is not how subsets work).

Is it currently possible to export subset flops to .txt included their respective weights? "Import flops from file" allows weighted flops as you know however "Export flops to file" for subsets does not include weights. If it isn't a feature somewhere else and not in your development roadmap to implement (due to resource allocation considerations etc.), would you perhaps be willing to forward me a list of weight flops for the 80, 129, and 163 subsets (in a PM if preferable so as not to clutter the forum with a wall of text lol)? I would then be able to copy the text from my browser and paste to Notepad?

Appreciate your time,

Jax

P.S. Is it possible to view the overall EV of IP's entire strategy? Currently, I can only see IP EV's after OOP has acted so I'm having to manually weight and sum IP's EV for each branch (e.g. IP EV vs OOP check and IP EV vs OOP bet). Again, not sure if I am missing this datapoint somewhere.

Last edited by Jaxit; 05-06-2022 at 02:06 AM. Reason: Improved formatting
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05-06-2022 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxit
Integrated GTO+ Weighted Subsets Query

Hi Scylla,
Hope you are well.
I export and conduct aggregate report analysis outside of GTO+ using Python to utilise some basic but refined filtering options that I have coded. Although the code works as intended, my filtered averages outputs are slightly inaccuracte at the moment as each board is considered at full weighting (which of course is not how subsets work).
Is it currently possible to export subset flops to .txt included their respective weights? "Import flops from file" allows weighted flops as you know however "Export flops to file" for subsets does not include weights. If it isn't a feature somewhere else and not in your development roadmap to implement (due to resource allocation considerations etc.), would you perhaps be willing to forward me a list of weight flops for the 80, 129, and 163 subsets (in a PM if preferable so as not to clutter the forum with a wall of text lol)? I would then be able to copy the text from my browser and paste to Notepad?
Our subsets are weighted significantly more accurately than those of other products.
For this reason, for the moment, the weighting is not made public.

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Originally Posted by Jaxit
P.S. Is it possible to view the overall EV of IP's entire strategy? Currently, I can only see IP EV's after OOP has acted so I'm having to manually weight and sum IP's EV for each branch (e.g. IP EV vs OOP check and IP EV vs OOP bet). Again, not sure if I am missing this datapoint somewhere.
For this, click on the tab "Player 2".


Last edited by scylla; 05-06-2022 at 02:08 PM.
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05-06-2022 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Our subsets are weighted significantly more accurately than those of other products.
For this reason, for the moment, the weighting is not made public.
Yeah, I was worried that you would tell me that they are proprietary... but I had to ask lol

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Originally Posted by scylla
For this, click on the tab "Player 2".
Lol. Sometimes the answer is literally staring you in the face

Thanks Scylla!

Last edited by Jaxit; 05-06-2022 at 04:36 PM. Reason: Fixed quotes
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05-06-2022 , 06:05 PM
Feature Suggestion/Request

Hi Scylla; it's me again lol!

It would be great if the reporting tab had a similar feature to the "Ignore this file" option found in the database configuration module where the user could scroll through the output table and manually select/deselect specific flops.



This would actually solve the filtering challenge I spoke of in my earlier post as I would be able to drill for boards based on connectedness and use the solver's own averages output. I imagine such a feature would be easier to implement than to code additional filter stats for 2straight, 3straight etc.
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05-07-2022 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxit
Feature Suggestion/Request

Hi Scylla; it's me again lol!

It would be great if the reporting tab had a similar feature to the "Ignore this file" option found in the database configuration module where the user could scroll through the output table and manually select/deselect specific flops.



This would actually solve the filtering challenge I spoke of in my earlier post as I would be able to drill for boards based on connectedness and use the solver's own averages output. I imagine such a feature would be easier to implement than to code additional filter stats for 2straight, 3straight etc.
You can manually deselect a flop by right-clicking it.
And a flop can be deleted with Ctrl+right-click.
Or were you referring to something else?
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05-07-2022 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
You can manually deselect a flop by right-clicking it.
And a flop can be deleted with Ctrl+right-click.
Or were you referring to something else?
I was hoping that a similar select/deselect function could be implemented to this window...



Let's say for example, I wanted to filter a solved database for all flops that contained 2 cards to a straight only. Unfortunately, it's not possible to achieve this using the Hi, Mid, Low card rank buttons in the Flop filters pane as even if you filter each hi card individually as shown below (Ace-high Single 2Straight), the result would also include some Double 2Straight "outlier" boards. With this filtering...



Flops AK8-AK2 and A98-A95 all qualify as Single 2Str however AK9, AQ8, AJ7 and AT6 do not (they are Double 2Str) which leads to an inaccurate average for the query. I think that having an option where we can further tweak the output by manually deselecting the outliers would overcome this challenge.
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05-07-2022 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxit
I was hoping that a similar select/deselect function could be implemented to this window...

Let's say for example, I wanted to filter a solved database for all flops that contained 2 cards to a straight only. Unfortunately, it's not possible to achieve this using the Hi, Mid, Low card rank buttons in the Flop filters pane as even if you filter each hi card individually as shown below (Ace-high Single 2Straight), the result would also include some Double 2Straight "outlier" boards. With this filtering...

Flops AK8-AK2 and A98-A95 all qualify as Single 2Str however AK9, AQ8, AJ7 and AT6 do not (they are Double 2Str) which leads to an inaccurate average for the query. I think that having an option where we can further tweak the output by manually deselecting the outliers would overcome this challenge.
Ok, I'll see if we can add the ability to ignore trees directly in database mode.
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05-08-2022 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, I'll see if we can add the ability to ignore trees directly in database mode.
That would be awesome Scylla!
Appreciate you
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05-10-2022 , 10:17 AM
Scy, hello!

do you plan to add filters in the short / medium term? (suit filters, grouped filters, etc)
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05-11-2022 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Scy, hello!
do you plan to add filters in the short / medium term? (suit filters, grouped filters, etc)
I can't really discuss development plans, but it's on the list of requested features.
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05-11-2022 , 06:23 AM
How to edit starting pot and effective stack for the current tree?
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05-11-2022 , 10:39 AM
Hello -

I have 32gb RAM. I am trying to solve a database of 163 SRP BTN vs BB. Each solve should require between 16-22GB of RAM to solve.

I let it run overnight. It solved ~60 flops. I saved it so I can close GTO+ and use computer for other things. Then at night I wanted to run more of the DB. However, when I open the DB, GTO immediately gobbles up 10-13gb RAM before even processing DB. This means that when I process the DB, it tells me that there is insufficient memory for every flop.

I am assuming it is doing this because when I open the DB, GTO is loading a portion of the DB into RAM for fast access. Is there a way to purge that data from RAM so I can solve the remainder of the DB?

Hopefully I explained it OK.

Thanks,
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05-11-2022 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xbasilx
How to edit starting pot and effective stack for the current tree?
It's not possible to build the same tree with different stacks sizes.
For example, if effective stacks are 100, and the action is "Bet 10, Raise 30, Push 100", then it's not possible to build the same tree if effective stacks are reduced to 10.
So you would need to build a new tree.
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05-11-2022 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DetroitDonk
Hello -
I have 32gb RAM. I am trying to solve a database of 163 SRP BTN vs BB. Each solve should require between 16-22GB of RAM to solve.
I let it run overnight. It solved ~60 flops. I saved it so I can close GTO+ and use computer for other things. Then at night I wanted to run more of the DB. However, when I open the DB, GTO immediately gobbles up 10-13gb RAM before even processing DB. This means that when I process the DB, it tells me that there is insufficient memory for every flop.
I am assuming it is doing this because when I open the DB, GTO is loading a portion of the DB into RAM for fast access. Is there a way to purge that data from RAM so I can solve the remainder of the DB?
Hopefully I explained it OK.
Thanks,
It indeed sounds like the solved trees in the database itself require RAM.

In order to get around this, you can:
1) Export the database into its separate trees
2) Solve the trees as separate files
3) When done, merge the separate trees together again into a database

Go here for further details: https://www.gtoplus.com/processingdatabase/
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05-11-2022 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
It indeed sounds like the solved trees in the database itself require RAM.

In order to get around this, you can:
1) Export the database into its separate trees
2) Solve the trees as separate files
3) When done, merge the separate trees together again into a database

Go here for further details: https://www.gtoplus.com/processingdatabase/
This is great, thank you!
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05-12-2022 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
It's not possible to build the same tree with different stacks sizes.
For example, if effective stacks are 100, and the action is "Bet 10, Raise 30, Push 100", then it's not possible to build the same tree if effective stacks are reduced to 10.
So you would need to build a new tree.
ok is it possible to save my bet sizings that i made in a tree and paste to the new tree? I know that i can store bet sizings in a build tree-advanced tab but i want to have a bet sizings tree after i made changes in a edit tree tab.
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05-13-2022 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by xbasilx
ok is it possible to save my bet sizings that i made in a tree and paste to the new tree? I know that i can store bet sizings in a build tree-advanced tab but i want to have a bet sizings tree after i made changes in a edit tree tab.
You can make any changes to the ranges/board/etc as you see fit.
After that, go to "Build tree", select the "Rebuild" tab, and click on "Rebuild with current settings".

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05-13-2022 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
You can make any changes to the ranges/board/etc as you see fit.
After that, go to "Build tree", select the "Rebuild" tab, and click on "Rebuild with current settings".

i can't change my starting pot and effective stack using this feature.
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05-13-2022 , 07:44 AM
Is there any way to add the general bet or check frequency in all the boards considering all the runouts until the river? today we can see only on the flop and card by card on the turn (by choosing only 1 flop).

What I would be requesting is to be able to see the frequency of when we choose 1 strategic option until the river
For example:

SRP BTNvBB

Flop IP : B30 B67
Turn IP: B75 B150
River IP B75 B150

I would like to know how many times I play B30 on all boards, what is the frequency that we play check turn or B75, B150 and the same on the river for the entire subset not for a specific board.


I hope you understand me, thank you!
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05-13-2022 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xbasilx
i can't change my starting pot and effective stack using this feature.
It's not possible to rebuild a tree with different stacks. For example, if the original tree has a bet sequence "Bet 10-Raise 30-Raise 100", then it's not possible to rebuild this tree if stacks are changed to 15. We might be able to make some changes so that the pot can be altered, but several complications may arise there as well.

Last edited by scylla; 05-13-2022 at 02:20 PM.
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05-13-2022 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Is there any way to add the general bet or check frequency in all the boards considering all the runouts until the river? today we can see only on the flop and card by card on the turn (by choosing only 1 flop).
What I would be requesting is to be able to see the frequency of when we choose 1 strategic option until the river
For example:
SRP BTNvBB
Flop IP : B30 B67
Turn IP: B75 B150
River IP B75 B150
I would like to know how many times I play B30 on all boards, what is the frequency that we play check turn or B75, B150 and the same on the river for the entire subset not for a specific board.
I hope you understand me, thank you!
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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