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07-08-2021 , 07:29 PM
Just wanted a shout out that developing a simplified strategy is great with this software.

Think that is what NG was referring to above.

I pick a flop, enter ranges (with a few deviations from simple pre flop ranges, even multi way), lock all actions for first run, that I think I should do, and population would do.

I have notes from coaching to help me understand which flops are good to cbet, good for merged ranges, ranges to expect from deep stack play, etc.

I haven't been playing while building these solutions. Solutions run from 5nl to 50nl (Ignition).

After the lock, I save the file, and run the Nash file (note, SRPs for CO and later take awhile to run on my little laptop). I note the ev difference.

I make notes of the differences in calling, raising, etc., then load the saved locked file.
and unlock villain. If there are significant differences between equilibrium and my lock file, I take a screen shot, and change my locked actions to correspond better. I then run again, noting changes in EV. usually, its the same as my locked file, or improves, but it is usually better or the same as the equilibrium.

I then run a few lock villain, unlock villain, lock me, for some granular data. I come up with the best, even if calling 3bets (so probably have lower ev than villain).

I simplify to one bet strategy for flop (easiest solution). i have the best ev I can generate for simplified solution. Saved to extensive storage. Then, I play the solutions.

Since I have been studying more than playing (bad form) for two weeks, I forgot my initial ranges. Started up a session today. got the ole ranges down, and the after actions speak for themselves.

Either I developed a balanced Nash strategy, or an exploitative strategy, but it sticks in your head if you keep practicing, and understand which flops are best for raiser, caller, and which are best for merged ranges and polarized ranges.

If you put in the effort, this pays off in dividends.

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07-08-2021 , 08:22 PM
I think whether i have a point.

I play 10NL cash at PS. There is a rake of 4.5% with a cap of $1.5 for 5+ players with dealt cards. So if gto+ defaults to $100 = 100b then cap = 15?
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07-09-2021 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lagux
I think whether i have a point.

I play 10NL cash at PS. There is a rake of 4.5% with a cap of $1.5 for 5+ players with dealt cards. So if gto+ defaults to $100 = 100b then cap = 15?
If you want to express everything in bb, then the cap would indeed be 15.
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07-09-2021 , 10:26 AM

so rake and cap in this pircture are good?
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07-09-2021 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lagux

so rake and cap in this pircture are good?
Yes, that seems to be ok.
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07-09-2021 , 07:15 PM
So GTOWizard has a feature where you can upload HH files and based on it's simulations quickly tells you how you played vs GTO. Lucid GTO is working on something similar.

I have heard Doug Polk talk that his team would have reports ready for review very quickly after a session on every hand. How is this possible? Currently what I do to look is Run a sim for the spot and then node lock for my play and compare the EV difference. Is there a faster way to import a bunch of hands into GTO+?
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07-09-2021 , 08:17 PM
I ran the Windows memory test and it found no errors in the RAM (I tried to run the .exe utility, but it wouldn't work [some error about not being able to allocate 4096 megs of RAM]).

System isn't overclocked.

Any other ideas?

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Do you by any chance have custom settings on your system?
Such as overclocking your memory, or any other changes to your BIOS?
Please note that reinstalling Windows does not reset your BIOS.

Also, can you check your RAM?
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/how-to-test-ram
If a RAM chip is damaged, then it's possible for software not to run properly.

Given the fact that you're indicating that Windows was having stability issues, this may indicate that changes have been made to the underlying system.
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07-09-2021 , 09:52 PM
Figured out how to run the memtest.exe utility. It found a memory error. My RAM isn't overclocked and I'm not sure what "aggressive" memory settings would be. Not sure how to proceed. It could be the "memory board," a driver, or the RAM sticks...

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Originally Posted by Gene2x
I ran the Windows memory test and it found no errors in the RAM (I tried to run the .exe utility, but it wouldn't work [some error about not being able to allocate 4096 megs of RAM]).

System isn't overclocked.

Any other ideas?
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07-10-2021 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by uppie_
So xxx has a feature where you can upload HH files and based on it's simulations quickly tells you how you played vs GTO. xxx is working on something similar. I have heard Doug Polk talk that his team would have reports ready for review very quickly after a session on every hand. How is this possible? Currently what I do to look is Run a sim for the spot and then node lock for my play and compare the EV difference. Is there a faster way to import a bunch of hands into GTO+?
This isn't really possible, given that assumptions need to be made on ranges, and which trees to build. Also, your opponents don't play GTO, and it's necessary to fill in an approximation of their play in order to figure out how to exploit their mistakes.
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07-10-2021 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gene2x
Figured out how to run the memtest.exe utility. It found a memory error. My RAM isn't overclocked and I'm not sure what "aggressive" memory settings would be. Not sure how to proceed. It could be the "memory board," a driver, or the RAM sticks...
It's most likely a faulty RAM stick. Assuming that you have multiple RAM sticks, you can just remove one, test the memory, test the next one, etc, until the error disappears. I have personally never encountered issues with RAM, so if someone here has some experience with this, then please let us know. It's also of course possible to bring the computer to a repair shop.
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07-10-2021 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
It's most likely a faulty RAM stick. Assuming that you have multiple RAM sticks, you can just remove one, test the memory, test the next one, etc, until the error disappears. I have personally never encountered issues with RAM, so if someone here has some experience with this, then please let us know. It's also of course possible to bring the computer to a repair shop.
Anything could be the issue, including cpu. If laptop, then cpu part of motherboard.

I would take to shop, if error persists.

Right now, I am good, and still running 16gb computer. However, the more intensive runs, heat up the cpu. That is to be expected, but the heat sink and cooling gel will all be affected over the long haul here. Save up for some repair work.

There are videos online for repairs here, but I am disabled, worth the price for me to repair, and/or upgrade system.
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07-11-2021 , 04:09 PM
Hey Scylla,
I was wondering if you could make the script pop up window (bottom right of screen), a movable window. I like to leave this window open as I run scripts and it would be nice to have the ability to move it around so it's not so much in the way.
Thanks!
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07-12-2021 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch
Hey Scylla,
I was wondering if you could make the script pop up window (bottom right of screen), a movable window. I like to leave this window open as I run scripts and it would be nice to have the ability to move it around so it's not so much in the way.
Thanks!
Ok, I will see if this is something that we can add.
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07-13-2021 , 06:21 AM
Can you make it so when you Overwrite a Profile, you don't have to type in the name of the profile?
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07-14-2021 , 02:45 AM
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Can you make it so when you Overwrite a Profile, you don't have to type in the name of the profile?
Ok, I have taken care of this for the next release.
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07-14-2021 , 08:02 AM
Hey Scylla, all of my ranged seemed to of disappeared randomly (which were created months ago) i have a saved file when i created the ranges but opening this doesn't solve the issue. any help appreciated.

thanks
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07-14-2021 , 09:58 AM
Hi Scylla,

If it is possible, I would like GTO+ to have a lot more filtering options. I think a filter for individual suits would be absolutely necessary and other more complex filtering that other applications are already using would be very beneficial for more efficient learning purposes. Thank you!
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07-14-2021 , 10:42 AM
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Hi Scylla,
If it is possible, I would like GTO+ to have a lot more filtering options. I think a filter for individual suits would be absolutely necessary and other more complex filtering that other applications are already using would be very beneficial for more efficient learning purposes. Thank you!
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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07-14-2021 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
Hey Scylla, all of my ranged seemed to of disappeared randomly (which were created months ago) i have a saved file when i created the ranges but opening this doesn't solve the issue. any help appreciated.
thanks
Your ranges are stored in /config/newdefs3.txt. Backups of this file are regularly stored to /config/backups. To restore to an earlier state, rename one of the files there to newdefs3.txt and store it in place of /config/newdefs3.txt.
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07-14-2021 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Your ranges are stored in /config/newdefs3.txt. Backups of this file are regularly stored to /config/backups. To restore to an earlier state, rename one of the files there to newdefs3.txt and store it in place of /config/newdefs3.txt.
Didn't seem to work. Why do the ranges randomly disappear anyway, is it on my end?

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07-15-2021 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
Didn't seem to work. Why do the ranges randomly disappear anyway, is it on my end?
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Are backup files stored to /config/backups?
The directory should look something like this:



The file in /config should look something like this:



Deleting newdefs3.txt here and replacing it with one of the files from /config/backups should restore to the earlier state. When selecting a file from /config/backups, sort by date and pick the most recent file with a decent size. It may require a few tries to find the right file, given that many different states have been stored.

If the issue persists, then please send a few of the files from /config/backups to support.
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07-15-2021 , 03:34 AM
Yeah I tried myriad different previous backups & none have worked. Where do I send support files?

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07-15-2021 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
Yeah I tried myriad different previous backups & none have worked. Where do I send support files?

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You can either use the contact form or e-mail address here:https://www.gtoplus.com/contact/
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07-15-2021 , 08:44 AM
Hello, I build a new tree with more sizings. and I would like to update every flop in my database with the sizing in the new tree. I tried to update all ranges but only one flop in my database is updated. how can I apply the new tree to every flop and run the database? Thanks
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07-15-2021 , 10:20 AM
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Hello, I build a new tree with more sizings. and I would like to update every flop in my database with the sizing in the new tree. I tried to update all ranges but only one flop in my database is updated. how can I apply the new tree to every flop and run the database? Thanks
For this, clear the database and rebuild it from the edited tree.
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