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12-24-2020 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FlashDeath
In the context of using GTO+, is a dedicated server any different from a cloud instance? Would you recommend one option over the other?
Is there currently a cloud service available through GTO+?
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12-24-2020 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaEndBoss
Is there currently a cloud service available through GTO+?
We don't offer a cloud service.
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12-24-2020 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMonolith
Hi Scylla, is there a way to make a node lock to all the flops in the database?
Say you want to make oop cbet entire range (one size) on a subset of flops.
If it is possible, is it also possible on the ip side? Oop don't donk, then ip cbet entire range.
Obviously with same ranges, same stacks and same tree lines.
Thank you.
For this, just edit the tree and remove the unwanted actions.
Then, build a new database from the edited tree.
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12-24-2020 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by expiat
Hello, is it any way when i create a tree, and then edit it manually in some spots to save it somehow? Cause if you want to change something later and you click on build tree all the things you did manually are lost. (The changes i try to are the stacks,pot and ranges)
For this, just keep a backup of your tree.

If you want to re-use it:
1) Load the tree
2) Set any ranges/board/rake/etc that you want to use
3) Go to "Build tree"
4) Go to the tab "Rebuild"
5) Click on "Rebuild with current settings"

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12-24-2020 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
For this, just keep a backup of your tree.

If you want to re-use it:
1) Load the tree
2) Set any ranges/board/rake/etc that you want to use
3) Go to "Build tree"
4) Go to the tab "Rebuild"
5) Click on "Rebuild with current settings"

Hello, i tried to create a SNG tree. But when i click on the last step to "Rebuild with current settings" i got that message.

"Tree has been successfully built!

Warning: Effective stacks had to be re-adjusted in "Stack"window."

Last edited by expiat; 12-24-2020 at 06:00 PM.
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12-25-2020 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by expiat
Hello, i tried to create a SNG tree. But when i click on the last step to "Rebuild with current settings" i got that message.

"Tree has been successfully built!

Warning: Effective stacks had to be re-adjusted in "Stack"window."
If you have a tree with betting such that the effective stacks are 781, then it's not possible to translate that into a tree where the effective stacks are 100 (you would either need to change the bet sizing, or the stacks). For this reason, the tree builder will change the effective stacks to reflect those of the original tree.
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12-25-2020 , 05:17 AM
Hey Scylla,

Can you extend display method 2 from postflop range matrix to preflop as well? As it is now, even though the color intensity gives us an idea of how much a combo features in a range, we have to hover over each individual combo to really know how much of it is in there. It's very convenient when the cells are filled according to their weight. A toggle just like for the postflop matrix would be perfect.
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12-25-2020 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FlashDeath
In the context of using GTO+, is a dedicated server any different from a cloud instance? Would you recommend one option over the other?
And an additional question in regards to this: Since GTO+'s licensing system ties the software to the actual physical system, I don't suppose using cloud instances is a valid option, since you just specify the system specs and they provide you one, but each time you use it's not necessarily the "same" one.
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12-25-2020 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If you have a tree with betting such that the effective stacks are 781, then it's not possible to translate that into a tree where the effective stacks are 100 (you would either need to change the bet sizing, or the stacks). For this reason, the tree builder will change the effective stacks to reflect those of the original tree.
My first tree had stack sizes 220 and pot 60 and the second that i want to use “Rebuild” has Stack sizes 190 and pot 60.
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12-25-2020 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
I feel like the entire "starting range" should show up so we can at least compare the EV difference of lines with certain combos within our range without having to node lock which is time intensive although I feel gto+ favours simplicity.
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Originally Posted by scylla
We can consider it, although others may feel that only the hands that are present in the ranges should be displayed. For example, if only 10 combos out of an original 500 combos make it to a certain line, then it might be distracting to display all 500 combos. That being said, I will take your suggestion under consideration.
agreed
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12-25-2020 , 06:34 PM
having an issue with windows 10 power or sleep settings ( i think). Running flop subsets and i come back to see only 1 or 2 done before GTO stopped progressing. Once I click back into GTO it finalises and commences the next hand.

Have tried power and screen on never sleep. Is there another setting causing me an issue? I don't think I encountered this issue before but no idea what has changed.

Or could I be hitting a limit of CPU or memory causing GTO to pause?
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12-26-2020 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by expiat
My first tree had stack sizes 220 and pot 60 and the second that i want to use “Rebuild” has Stack sizes 190 and pot 60.
+1 on this, it would be great to be able to save a manually edited tree as a profile so we could use it for other stack depths.
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12-26-2020 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlashDeath
Hey Scylla,

Can you extend display method 2 from postflop range matrix to preflop as well? As it is now, even though the color intensity gives us an idea of how much a combo features in a range, we have to hover over each individual combo to really know how much of it is in there. It's very convenient when the cells are filled according to their weight. A toggle just like for the postflop matrix would be perfect.
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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12-26-2020 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FlashDeath
And an additional question in regards to this: Since GTO+'s licensing system ties the software to the actual physical system, I don't suppose using cloud instances is a valid option, since you just specify the system specs and they provide you one, but each time you use it's not necessarily the "same" one.
It's indeed a requirement that the software is consistently used on the same computer.
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12-26-2020 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by expiat
My first tree had stack sizes 220 and pot 60 and the second that i want to use “Rebuild” has Stack sizes 190 and pot 60.
Yes, because of this, the stacks will need to be reset to 220.
Otherwise, it's not possible to re-use the earlier tree.
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12-26-2020 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by D_godfather9
having an issue with windows 10 power or sleep settings ( i think). Running flop subsets and i come back to see only 1 or 2 done before GTO stopped progressing. Once I click back into GTO it finalises and commences the next hand.

Have tried power and screen on never sleep. Is there another setting causing me an issue? I don't think I encountered this issue before but no idea what has changed.

Or could I be hitting a limit of CPU or memory causing GTO to pause?
This was indeed an issue in one of the earlier versions.
Are you using v132?
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12-26-2020 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
For this, just keep a backup of your tree.

If you want to re-use it:
1) Load the tree
2) Set any ranges/board/rake/etc that you want to use
3) Go to "Build tree"
4) Go to the tab "Rebuild"
5) Click on "Rebuild with current settings"

Thanks, I will try that
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12-26-2020 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
This was indeed an issue in one of the earlier versions.
Are you using v132?
oh...no, should it update automatically, i am on 1.2.9
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12-26-2020 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by D_godfather9
oh...no, should it update automatically, i am on 1.2.9
Yes, updating to v132 should resolve this issue.
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12-26-2020 , 12:22 PM
resolved. Thank you for support over holiday season.
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12-26-2020 , 08:39 PM
Dear Scylla,

I am wondering is there a way to precisely test the EV of adding different river bet sizes in gtoplus? If we add/remove a river bet size and then re run the tree, the solver might adjust its earlier nodes, so it wouldn't be possible to say the difference in the river EV is a direct effect of the change in bet sizes. is there a way to hold the entire tree up to the river static? i see if we lock the tree the EV is no longer displayed.

Thanks!
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12-27-2020 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tuffspotz
Dear Scylla,

I am wondering is there a way to precisely test the EV of adding different river bet sizes in gtoplus? If we add/remove a river bet size and then re run the tree, the solver might adjust its earlier nodes, so it wouldn't be possible to say the difference in the river EV is a direct effect of the change in bet sizes. is there a way to hold the entire tree up to the river static? i see if we lock the tree the EV is no longer displayed.

Thanks!
This is currently not possible. However, I can tell you that when playing GTO, all bet sizes will perform almost exactly the same. You can test this for yourself by building the same tree, but for different sizes. After that, check OOP's overall performance (check his EV for his very first decision below the table; see the screenshot below). As you'll find, the overall EV will be nearly identical, regardless of which bet sizes are used.

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12-27-2020 , 09:44 AM
Hello Scylla. Do I understand correctly that you are considering to implement "partial node locking" feature next year? Can you indicate the approximate dates (first quarter, six months or ...)?
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12-27-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by merkutio137
Hello Scylla. Do I understand correctly that you are considering to implement "partial node locking" feature next year? Can you indicate the approximate dates (first quarter, six months or ...)?
I've made no such statements.
I'm happy to consider it, but, as I've said previously, this feature does come with certain challenges.
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12-27-2020 , 06:25 PM
Any plans on making drill function when playing against solution work for database as well?
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