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01-26-2010 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WillyT
Uh oh!

That didn't work either. It's still listed as me having version 1.15 when I go to 'help' and on top of that I lost all of my stored data.

Hopefully I can figure out how to restore all of the preset ranges I had before.

The one feature that looked different on the webpage that I was hoping to use is that it looked like you could toggle weights for specific hands and maybe even for specific suits. For example, that you could say AA is the range 100% of the time you have it and ATo is in the range only 50% of the time you're dealt it.

Ok, I'm off to see what I can restore and see if I can't get up to the most recent version as I'm not seeing how to use the features mentioned above as of yet.
The current version is 2.4.5.
Version 1.15 is from the cybernetic stone-age.
Could you please tell me where you downloaded that old version?
It sounds like I may have some links to fix.

Oh, and losing your preset ranges every time you uninstall will be fixed in 2.4.6.
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01-26-2010 , 07:06 PM
Here is what is written in the current version text file:

"12345
121
54321"

I downloaded the file flopzilla121.msi from your webpage stoxev/flopzilla/flopzilla.htm just a few minutes ago and ran the installation. The file size is 3.1MB

It could be that the version number in the 'help tab is incorrect and it's actually a newer version running.

Everything look correct?


p.s. is there no way to recover the saved ranges? like mb the files are in the recycle bin or something?
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01-26-2010 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WillyT
Here is what is written in the current version text file:

"12345
121
54321"

I downloaded the file flopzilla121.msi from your webpage stoxev/flopzilla/flopzilla.htm just a few minutes ago and ran the installation. The file size is 3.1MB

It could be that the version number in the 'help tab is incorrect and it's actually a newer version running.

Everything look correct?


p.s. is there no way to recover the saved ranges? like mb the files are in the recycle bin or something?

Woops, my mistake.
I thought you were talking about StoxEV.
No, flopzilla's latest version is indeed 1.21.

Oh, and the program giving its version as 1.15 is a mistake by me.
It looks like you have the latest version.
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01-28-2010 , 10:31 AM
Hi scylla,

next question


in stoxev i have the option to import hand history's from hem,did i understand it right,that import over hem works for every site (not only full tilt,stars,ipoker,party,prima,ultimate)?

i'm playing on pacific poker,but import over hem doesn't work for me,but maybe the error is on me,so i decide to ask you
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01-28-2010 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pronto
Hi scylla,

next question


in stoxev i have the option to import hand history's from hem,did i understand it right,that import over hem works for every site (not only full tilt,stars,ipoker,party,prima,ultimate)?

i'm playing on pacific poker,but import over hem doesn't work for me,but maybe the error is on me,so i decide to ask you
That is correct.
HEM converts every hand history into party poker format, and party poker is on StoxEV's list.
The HEM option on the import list is just for communication to the user.

To get the hand history from HEM, go to the "cash games" tab (I'm not sure how it works for tournaments), select the hand history and then rightclick and select "View selected hand histories".

Cheers,

Scylla
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01-31-2010 , 08:30 PM
2 Questions about the unexploitable shoving tool:

If I set it up so that it says I can shove an unexploitable range preflop of 44+, A9o+, A4s+, KTs+ (for example)...can I pick and chose hands to shove there unexploitably?

So if I am 3bet shoving with 44, 55, KTs, A9o, ATo, and thats all from that range...would it still be unexploitable? or for it to be unexploitable, do I need to shove the entire range?

Also, Is there a way to do the exploitable shoving calculation and remove hands (for example): I never want to open shove AA or KK. Is there a way to remove that before having stoxev calculate it?

thanks.
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02-01-2010 , 01:11 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before. I've got a horrid feeling it has but i can't find it in the thread.

So right now you can do a maximum exploitive analysis with a range of hands, given a certain board. If no board is entered, it's assumed random. When we hover over a decision, it shows all hands that take that line.

Are you considering adding a similar feature, for one specific hand but the range of turn or river cards? So hero has one specific hand, and when we hover over a decision it shows on what board card we take that line of the decision tree.

Hope that's clear. I see the river layers is something similar but not exactly what i want.

So say i have a certain hand, and i call the turn and want to know what rivers i should checkraise, what i should checkcall and what i should checkfold. I set up this tree, click "automatic analysis", and it shows me what river cards i take each decision with.
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02-01-2010 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kylefrey
2 Questions about the unexploitable shoving tool:

If I set it up so that it says I can shove an unexploitable range preflop of 44+, A9o+, A4s+, KTs+ (for example)...can I pick and chose hands to shove there unexploitably?

So if I am 3bet shoving with 44, 55, KTs, A9o, ATo, and thats all from that range...would it still be unexploitable? or for it to be unexploitable, do I need to shove the entire range?
You would need to shove with the entire range to be unexploitable.
However, I think there's way too much focus from people on being unexploitable.
In poker, you should try to figure out the faults in your opponents strategies and choose a counter strategy that takes advantage of those faults.
Unexploitable strategies will let you pass up a lot of +EV opportunities.

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Originally Posted by kylefrey
Also, Is there a way to do the exploitable shoving calculation and remove hands (for example): I never want to open shove AA or KK. Is there a way to remove that before having stoxev calculate it?

thanks.
I think if you just remove AA and KK from the range at the point of shoving that should be close enough.
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02-01-2010 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hood
Sorry if this has been asked before. I've got a horrid feeling it has but i can't find it in the thread.

So right now you can do a maximum exploitive analysis with a range of hands, given a certain board. If no board is entered, it's assumed random. When we hover over a decision, it shows all hands that take that line.

Are you considering adding a similar feature, for one specific hand but the range of turn or river cards? So hero has one specific hand, and when we hover over a decision it shows on what board card we take that line of the decision tree.

Hope that's clear. I see the river layers is something similar but not exactly what i want.

So say i have a certain hand, and i call the turn and want to know what rivers i should checkraise, what i should checkcall and what i should checkfold. I set up this tree, click "automatic analysis", and it shows me what river cards i take each decision with.
I'll take it into consideration.

Cheers,

Scylla
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02-04-2010 , 10:54 AM
why can this no longer be purchased?
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02-05-2010 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
why can this no longer be purchased?
+1
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02-05-2010 , 08:16 AM
Hi guys,

I'm currently dealing with a couple of minor issues.
Should be solved in a couple of days I hope.

Cheers,

Scylla
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02-12-2010 , 06:36 PM
What method is used to determine which hands to add as I increase slider for specifying top X% of hands?

When I move slider to around top 35% of hands, 54o gets added before J8s and both hands are higher in rank than K6s???
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02-12-2010 , 06:53 PM
Hi, I just stared using StoxEV a few days ago. I have a registered commercial copy. Great stuff, it seems I was wrong about a couple points of poker strategy, go figure!

My Problem:
I am running Vista and have proabbly been running as administrator sometimes and sometimes not. Today it downloaded the new version and now if I run as administrator it runs the trial version and if I run without administrator it correctly loads the commercial version.

My wishes:
Any chance we can rename players in the player select screen? Giving each player a colored tint would be cool too, would make it easer to follow the action Also, when I'm scrolled down to the bottom of the screen I sometimes have trouble figure out what street I'm lookin at and have to scroll back up. Labeling the street divider lines would be nice. So would being able to 'grab and drag' the screen around instead of having to scroll.

Thanks for the stunninly great software.

Dave
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02-13-2010 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nlwolf
What method is used to determine which hands to add as I increase slider for specifying top X% of hands?

When I move slider to around top 35% of hands, 54o gets added before J8s and both hands are higher in rank than K6s???
I just created a ranking that felt "right" for NL holdem.
I suppose in hindsight J8s should be above 54o.
You can change the order to anything you like in the custom range menu.
To do so, go to "Game properties->edit preflop handselection".
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02-13-2010 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Thesrot
My Problem:
I am running Vista and have proabbly been running as administrator sometimes and sometimes not. Today it downloaded the new version and now if I run as administrator it runs the trial version and if I run without administrator it correctly loads the commercial version.
Yes, the whole admin thing in Vista is beyond annoying.
For what it's worth, in most cases not running as admin will work just fine, so if you're not experiencing problems, just run it as non-admin.
Otherwise, just mail me for a new key.

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Originally Posted by Thesrot
My wishes:
Any chance we can rename players in the player select screen?
It's something that's sort of on my list.
I'll get to it at some point in the future.

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Originally Posted by Thesrot
Giving each player a colored tint would be cool too, would make it easer to follow the action
I like that. I'll try to add it for the next release.

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Originally Posted by Thesrot
Also, when I'm scrolled down to the bottom of the screen I sometimes have trouble figure out what street I'm lookin at and have to scroll back up. Labeling the street divider lines would be nice.
I'll give it some thought.

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Originally Posted by Thesrot
So would being able to 'grab and drag' the screen around instead of having to scroll.
It's probably possible.
Maybe at some point in the future I'll figure out how to do this.

Cheers,

Scylla
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02-17-2010 , 11:52 AM
I'm having issue with 2.4.6 version. When I mousing over player's hand range, or trying to change it stoxev just freezes for some time, and it takes long time to open this range edit window. Clicking anything in this window takes about 1 second to take effect. Allso at this time it uses all cpu resource. While other features work fine. This is on win xp SP3. Tomorrow I'll try it on win7 and give you to know.
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02-17-2010 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zaggi
I'm having issue with 2.4.6 version. When I mousing over player's hand range,
Do you mean when you hover over a preflop condition?
Or something else?
I need to know since I'll have to figure out where to look in the code.

Does it help when you turn off "extra->draw preflop handmatrix"?

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Originally Posted by zaggi
or trying to change it stoxev just freezes for some time, and it takes long time to open this range edit window. Clicking anything in this window takes about 1 second to take effect. Allso at this time it uses all cpu resource. While other features work fine. This is on win xp SP3. Tomorrow I'll try it on win7 and give you to know.
And again, this is the preflop edit window?

Is this only with left-clicking or also for instance when you left-click and then move the bar?


Edit:
Oh wait, did you perhaps install the latest version over an older one without uninstalling first?
That can definitely cause a slowdown.

Last edited by scylla; 02-17-2010 at 01:25 PM.
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02-18-2010 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Yes, the whole admin thing in Vista is beyond annoying.
For what it's worth, in most cases not running as admin will work just fine, so if you're not experiencing problems, just run it as non-admin.
Otherwise, just mail me for a new key.
Okay, thanks.

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Originally Posted by scylla
I like that. I'll try to add it for the next release.
Sweet

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Originally Posted by scylla
I'll give it some thought.
(re labeling street lines)

I hadn't noticed the background was shaded for different streets, so that's cool, though ultimiately it would be nice to not have the board cards at the top of the page scroll away.
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02-18-2010 , 12:48 PM
can you make a flopzilla+pokerstove for omaha? i think it will be nice
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02-21-2010 , 04:16 PM
is there a way to show the rake taken in the pot?
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02-21-2010 , 05:20 PM
You can set rake, rakeback and cap in the blinds menu.
To go there, press the button marked "blinds" in the lower left or press Ctrl+F1.

If you want to know how much rake has been taken out of the pot in a certain scenario, press F6 for a trial run.
The rake that is taken out of the pot will be shown under "Outcome".

If you want to see a trial run in a specific part of a tree, then set a checkpoint in that part by pressing F10 and then left-clicking on a decision button in that part of the tree. Checkpoints can also be added to end-of-hand symbols.

Please be aware that the rake shown for a trial run is already corrected for rakeback.
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02-21-2010 , 07:04 PM
Thanks scylla, that works for me.

Here's a random idea for you. I would like to see some more videos using StoxEV. I've watched the 3 I assume you made. What if you held a contest where customers make videos using StoxEV? Maybe they're a quick tip. Maybe they're analyzing a situation. Hold the contest over at least 2 months. Could probably get away with $200 to first place? And by submitting the video, they grant you the rights to post them on your site. The videos would act as ads for your product, which isn't super cheap, so you'd likely make back the investment + some.

Just an idea. I know I'd enter.
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02-22-2010 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Powers_That_Be
Thanks scylla, that works for me.

Here's a random idea for you. I would like to see some more videos using StoxEV. I've watched the 3 I assume you made. What if you held a contest where customers make videos using StoxEV? Maybe they're a quick tip. Maybe they're analyzing a situation. Hold the contest over at least 2 months. Could probably get away with $200 to first place? And by submitting the video, they grant you the rights to post them on your site. The videos would act as ads for your product, which isn't super cheap, so you'd likely make back the investment + some.

Just an idea. I know I'd enter.
+1 great idea indeed
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02-23-2010 , 10:22 AM
Hi scylla!

Can i create a preflop range, wich includes hands with different weight?
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