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If I understand you correctly, then this data is available in the turn/river reports. For this, click on the card icon for the line that you want to look at and click on "Turn report". See the screenshot below. In the report, you can use the navigator to go to any decision that you're interested in.

I was thinking about overall turn frequencies in database mode, to see how much X player barrels turn on average (on all runout) on those boards which are in the database.

So I have 100 flop, im curious to see after X flop action, how much we bet/check/etc on turn on those 100 boards (on average)

I can see aggravated flop frequencies when i click on Database: "Display results in graph", but i cant see turn frequencies there.

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07-21-2020 , 07:39 AM

#10327

TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

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Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,777

Hi Scylla,

You've mentioned several times that bet sizes tend to perform similarly in EV. My work in the program confirms this.

I'm curious how the difference in % pot between two sizes determines how much different the ev will be.

What I mean, is like, will the difference between 25% and 33% vs 66% and 75% be the same or similar as 33% and 66%?

I know this is more theory then specific to GTO+, so let me know if I should take this question elsewhere.

Thanks!

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07-21-2020 , 11:39 AM

#10328

scylla

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Originally Posted by jancsigyerek

This data is available in the engine, and we can consider adding it for later releases. Please do note though that this data will be an average of an average. And each turn line will have been reached with an entirely different range by both hero and villain. So although it's possible to sum this data and calculate values here, it will only be of limited practical applicability.

Last edited by scylla; 07-21-2020 at 11:46 AM.

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07-21-2020 , 11:41 AM

#10329

scylla

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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl

The values should be very similar, regardless of the bet sizing.

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07-21-2020 , 03:45 PM

#10330

rogorz

centurion

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Hey scylla,

I'm can't get the copy/paste to work for node locked ranges. I'm trying to simulate an opponent that reacts to a small bet the same way as a big bet. Here's a video of what I do, and as you can see when I paste from clipboard nothing changes : https://imgur.com/a/ZAbIzfx

Am I missing something?

Thanks

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07-21-2020 , 05:01 PM

#10331

scylla

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Originally Posted by rogorz

Can you check if a file /tmp/clipboard.txt is present in your installation directory? Most likely this will be C:\Program Files\GTO. It should be created when you click on "Copy to clipboard".

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07-21-2020 , 06:09 PM

#10332

Dejavudu666

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 428

Hi scylla,
Is there a shortcut key to navigate between sims in the database?

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07-22-2020 , 06:06 AM

#10333

rogorz

centurion

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Originally Posted by scylla

Can you check if a file /tmp/clipboard.txt is present in your installation directory? Most likely this will be C:\Program Files\GTO. It should be created when you click on "Copy to clipboard".

The file is there and correctly contains the clipboard data.

From what I can tell, when I click "Paste from clipboard" it does paste correctly (the text in the window changes). But when I then click "OK" it doesn't apply the changes to the actual range.

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07-22-2020 , 04:16 PM

#10334

scylla

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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666

Hi scylla,
Is there a shortcut key to navigate between sims in the database?

I can consider this for later releases, but right at this moment this is not available.

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07-22-2020 , 04:16 PM

#10335

scylla

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Originally Posted by rogorz

I've checked, and it seems to work over here.
Can you perhaps send the savefile from the video to support?

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07-22-2020 , 04:58 PM

#10336

rogorz

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by scylla

I've checked, and it seems to work over here.
Can you perhaps send the savefile from the video to support?

I found the problem. I had to click on the ". <-> ," button. I was using commas as a delimiter, after switching to dots it works.

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07-23-2020 , 02:01 AM

#10337

Matawazi

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Is it possible to nodelock for not taking a certain action?
Let's say I give IP 33%, 75% and 150% turn betting options, but I want to re-solve the turn without him ever using overbet size for double barrel.

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07-23-2020 , 04:47 AM

#10338

scylla

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogorz

I found the problem. I had to click on the ". <-> ," button. I was using commas as a delimiter, after switching to dots it works.

Thank you for pointing that out.
I'll see if I can reproduce it, and, if so, fix it for later releases.

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07-23-2020 , 04:48 AM

#10339

scylla

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Originally Posted by Matawazi

Yes, you can use the editor to delete the action that you want to ignore.

For this:
1) Go to the editor.
2) Click on "IMPORT TREE".
3) Navigate to the decision on the turn.
4) Remove the action.
5) Click on "ACCEPT CHANGES".

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07-23-2020 , 09:02 PM

#10340

jayme87

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what format does GTO+ use for putting in ranges? like in monker for example it gives PPT Pio or CVS, i can save it custom too would that work?

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07-23-2020 , 09:09 PM

#10341

jayme87

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seems as if the ranges for PPT (i assume propokertools) does not work copy and pasting into GTO+ , all other seem to not work at all. any help greatly appreciated

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07-24-2020 , 03:36 AM

#10342

scylla

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Originally Posted by jayme87

what format does GTO+ use for putting in ranges? like in monker for example it gives PPT Pio or CVS, i can save it custom too would that work?

GTO+ accepts GTO+/CREV/Flopzilla and pio format.
If your ranges are not accepted, then please send a sample to support.

Last edited by scylla; 07-24-2020 at 03:44 AM.

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07-24-2020 , 09:18 AM

#10343

crowned

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 238

Hi Scylla,
I was wondering how I can categorize and arrange my ranges like shown in this video https://youtu.be/CVGQBOUOT-g?t=2597 ?

Nevermind.. got it to work

Last edited by crowned; 07-24-2020 at 09:37 AM.

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07-25-2020 , 08:10 AM

#10344

newguyhere

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 7,265

Sorry if this has been asked before.

Is there a way to make it so the Combos, Percentages, or EV column can be filtered by the action you've chosen?

Example in the screenshot below. I have Percentages and the action is a 33% bet sizing.

I would like to filter the percentages column to get a quick look at which hands to bet at the highest and lowest frequencies.

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07-25-2020 , 09:31 AM

#10345

Matawazi

grinder

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Does saving a database in basic storage mode results in some limitations of turn/river aggregate reports compared to extensive storage?

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07-25-2020 , 02:42 PM

#10346

TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

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Hi Scylla,

Is there a way to change the colours that each bet size or action gets?

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07-25-2020 , 03:58 PM

#10347

Dejavudu666

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Does anyone want to share databases?

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07-26-2020 , 03:42 AM

#10348

scylla

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

We don't have such a feature, but I can consider it for future releases.

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07-26-2020 , 03:44 AM

#10349

scylla

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matawazi

Does saving a database in basic storage mode results in some limitations of turn/river aggregate reports compared to extensive storage?

When using "Extensive" storage, the turn reports will also allow you to look at individual hands (click on "Specific hand").
River reports are the same for both methods (because river reports are calculated live).