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Yes, as long as enough RAM is available on your system to contain a tree without compression, then the CPU gHz+cores is the only factor that influences processing speed.

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02-27-2020 , 10:46 AM

#9402

jaym99

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 36

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Originally Posted by scylla

There is no minimum bet applied. That being said, in NLHE, unless the preflop action was "SB completes, BB checks", then 35% of the pot should already be greater than 1bb.

But it's not - 35% of 2bb, is less than the required 1bb

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02-28-2020 , 03:27 AM

#9403

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by jaym99

But it's not - 35% of 2bb, is less than the required 1bb

Yes, as I said, this is the only scenario that I can think of where this applies.

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02-28-2020 , 06:08 AM

#9404

jaym99

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 36

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Originally Posted by scylla

Yes, as I said, this is the only scenario that I can think of where this applies.

and it's actually super common in HU games

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02-28-2020 , 12:01 PM

#9405

jaym99

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 36

I guess you would need to add some logic where GTO+ would know what the min bet size is. GTO+ has no idea if it's a raised, limped, iso'd or 3bet pot. It's probably more of a hassle to add it.

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02-28-2020 , 01:40 PM

#9406

alkaatch

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 359

He just needs to specify that the bet is X% of pot or 1bb, whichever is larger.

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02-28-2020 , 04:33 PM

#9407

Rodrigo4073

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 18

Hello Scylla, hope you are doing well. I have a maybe a dumb question about how the Sit&Go configuration in GTO+ works. We input the starting pot in a regular way, same with stacks, but how the prizes work? We need to input the % of the prize pool or how does it work? For example, for a 6max turbo on Stars, we put 1st 65 and 2nd 35 and that's correct? And then we just have the icm postflop for that kind of game? Thanks for your time and thanks for this great software.

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02-28-2020 , 05:20 PM

#9408

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by jaym99

I guess you would need to add some logic where GTO+ would know what the min bet size is. GTO+ has no idea if it's a raised, limped, iso'd or 3bet pot. It's probably more of a hassle to add it.

This feature would require the user inputting what the size of the blind is. This may turn out to be confusing for users to whom this is not relevant (which may well be nearly all of them). So it's mostly an interface consideration.

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02-28-2020 , 05:21 PM

#9409

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by Rodrigo4073

Yes, one way to approach this would be to input the % of the prize pool for every prize.
Or just the absolute $ amount.
Either approach will lead to the same results.

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02-29-2020 , 01:32 AM

#9410

jaym99

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Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 36

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Originally Posted by scylla

I think you're underestimating your userbase's knowledge here.

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02-29-2020 , 10:01 AM

#9411

scylla

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Originally Posted by jaym99

I think you're underestimating your userbase's knowledge here.

Ok, I will take it under consideration for future releases.

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02-29-2020 , 05:41 PM

#9412

djz

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,480

Why is it if you solve a subset for some accuracy level, if you want to resolve that tree to a higher accuracy it starts the solve all over again?

Also is there a way to increase the accuracy of turn and river saves when using extensive storage?

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03-01-2020 , 04:13 AM

#9413

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by djz

Continuing a solve would require storing every bit of data within a tree, as well as internal solving data. This would mean that both the RAM requirements and savefile size would be much larger.

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Originally Posted by djz

Also is there a way to increase the accuracy of turn and river saves when using extensive storage?

Yes, for this simply re-solve any line that you like.
To solve a line again, click on the tiny solve icon in the upper right of the turn/river field.

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03-01-2020 , 09:19 PM

#9414

djz

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,480

When I do quiz mode it seems like the solver checks wayyyy more than it should if it has the option to. In a lot of spots where it's 30% check or less it feels like it's checking >80%. I have played a ton against it to the point where it shouldn't be a sample size issue...this seems to happen especially in 3bet pots where it was the preflop aggressor. Is it possible to "ratchet up" the aggressiveness of the bot in some setting or allow it to in a future version?

E.g. force range betting of some size that is in the parameters, force range checking, etc.

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03-02-2020 , 04:18 AM

#9415

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by djz

When I do quiz mode it seems like the solver checks wayyyy more than it should if it has the option to. In a lot of spots where it's 30% check or less it feels like it's checking >80%. I have played a ton against it to the point where it shouldn't be a sample size issue...this seems to happen especially in 3bet pots where it was the preflop aggressor. Is it possible to "ratchet up" the aggressiveness of the bot in some setting or allow it to in a future version?
E.g. force range betting of some size that is in the parameters, force range checking, etc.

I'll check the code, but this really does sound like a sample size issue.
Over even relatively large samples it's still possible for unlikely events to occur.
In some cases I've had to run autoplay overnight for the numbers to line up.

Come to think of it, GTO+ stores the playing histories.
So if you can send a savefile to support, then I may be able to check.

Last edited by scylla; 03-02-2020 at 04:32 AM.

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03-03-2020 , 12:06 AM

#9416

djz

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the feature DTO has is what I have in mind though I don't see how data collection would be possible.

Great work on the updates and thread scylla; I prefer GTO+ to pio now.

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03-03-2020 , 04:37 AM

#9417

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by djz

It's probably sample size.

Are there any plans to add performance stats in the future? That would be amazing. Especially if the user could see what boards (e.g. paired, mono), hand class, and street gave them trouble. Also how frequent errors are IP and OOP by street.

the feature DTO has is what I have in mind though I don't see how data collection would be possible.

Great work on the updates and thread scylla; I prefer GTO+ to pio now.

You can already sort by suboptimal play.
We can consider more additions for later releases though.

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03-03-2020 , 04:46 PM

#9418

Ramyano

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 39

How can I acces Session history?

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03-03-2020 , 05:38 PM

#9419

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by Ramyano

How can I acces Session history?

Your hand histories will automatically be stored when you're playing.
To view the histories while playing, turn on "Show hand histories".
To view information on sessions, go to "Edit session filters" (lower right of pic).

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03-03-2020 , 10:32 PM

#9420

Lozgod

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,562

I’m sure it’s some kind of issue on my part but wanted to be sure. I have GTO+ and CREV and I just opened up my laptop and my CREV shortcut is gone and it appears my entire folder contents for it is gone.

Any ideas what happened?

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03-04-2020 , 05:08 AM

#9421

scylla

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Originally Posted by Lozgod

Perhaps you misclicked while uninstalling some other program?

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03-04-2020 , 06:52 AM

#9422

Ramyano

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 39

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Originally Posted by scylla

Thanks. But I don't have "Show hand Histories" , it's "Show performance" instead. Do I need to update?

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03-04-2020 , 06:57 AM

#9423

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,444

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Originally Posted by Ramyano

Thanks. But I don't have "Show hand Histories" , it's "Show performance" instead. Do I need to update?

Yes, please update to v128.

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03-04-2020 , 07:07 AM

#9424

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 259

scylla hello.

How i upload flop subsets in gto+?

Any chance of save automatically when the solver finish a tree?

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03-04-2020 , 09:59 AM

#9425

Lovemetwice

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 22

Hello Scylla, if the pc sometimes crashes while doing computations, and it's more probable that it crashes if I'm doing a computation with a window and I'm looking to a solution on another window + flopzilla pro, could it be related to a weak integrated graphic card? thanks

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