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Yes, GTO+ does indeed need Windows. Please do note though that our licensing system means that keys are locked to the hardware of the computer that they were generated for. It's not possible to use a key that was generated for one computer on a different computer. As a consequence, it's not possible to constantly switch machines. If you want to run the software on a server, then please make sure that it's always the same device.

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04-07-2019 , 06:52 AM

#7853

BruceEli

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 17

I am having an issue with cbet sizings. I want OOP to cbet 25% pot, but instead GTO+ goes for this 55% pot. Is it a bug?

https://imgur.com/a45MtSJ

Last edited by BruceEli; 04-07-2019 at 06:54 AM. Reason: wrong input

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04-07-2019 , 07:47 AM

#7854

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceEli

I am having an issue with cbet sizings. I want OOP to cbet 25% pot, but instead GTO+ goes for this 55% pot. Is it a bug?

https://imgur.com/a45MtSJ

With the current stack-to-pot ratio that players are already almost all-in.
Try turning OFF "With only two bets left, get the money in smoothly".

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04-07-2019 , 07:50 AM

#7855

BruceEli

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by scylla

With the current stack-to-pot ratio that players are already almost all-in.
Try turning OFF "With only two bets left, get the money in smoothly".

It worked, thank you

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04-08-2019 , 09:47 PM

#7856

carl_sebastian

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 40

I am currently using fhe trial version of GTO+, i am willing to pay to get the full version of the program but i also plan to upgrade my computer this year, need faster CPU.

Is i9 9900K a good cpu for GTO+ ?

Last edited by carl_sebastian; 04-08-2019 at 09:54 PM.

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04-09-2019 , 01:26 AM

#7857

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl_sebastian

From what I can tell the specifications are: Octa (8) core @ 3,6GHz-5GHz.
So, yes, that seems to be one of the stronger CPUs available today.
I can of course not give any guarantees, but I don't see how there could be any problem here.

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04-09-2019 , 11:15 AM

#7858

carl_sebastian

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 40

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Originally Posted by scylla

How does that hardware locking works?

What components can you replace without issues?

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04-09-2019 , 11:26 AM

#7859

Kockar

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 374

Syclla, I would like to copy a flop subset textfile for a database simulation under C:\Program Files\GTO\flops. But I can´t do that since I don´t have admin rights. Any solution for this? Thanks.

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04-09-2019 , 12:54 PM

#7860

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian

How does that hardware locking works?

What components can you replace without issues?

Given that this involves security, I can't really answer your question. However, whenever you need a new key you can request it on the website: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key. It will be sent to you within a few minutes of the request. This will work fine for any regular purposes (replacing hardware, getting a new computer, etc). However, it's not intended for constantly switching machines, given that this looks too much as if there's multiple users on a single account.

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04-09-2019 , 12:55 PM

#7861

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by Kockar

Syclla, I would like to copy a flop subset textfile for a database simulation under C:\Program Files\GTO\flops. But I can´t do that since I don´t have admin rights. Any solution for this? Thanks.

First save the file to a location where you do have priviliges (for example C:/tmp).
After that, copy the file from C:/tmp to /flops.

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04-09-2019 , 01:04 PM

#7862

carl_sebastian

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 40

The only thing keeping me from buying if now (using 40% of my poker roll) is that my current cpu is a phenom II x4 965 (old, **** CPU) and i do not feel like dropping like 1200$ on new computer hardware.

Well i guess i should just buy, sure overkill for miscrostakes but i plan to move up soon.

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04-10-2019 , 07:47 AM

#7863

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 245

Scylla good day! I would like to know if there is a lot of difference between 1 .5 .25 .1 dEV in terms of results assuming that we are "human" and that it is impossible for us to calculate so fine in terms of the EV in all the spots that exist.

Could you explain the meaning of that%?

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04-11-2019 , 02:40 AM

#7864

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by Mates.

The dEV (or "Nash distance") is a measure for how close to the actual equilibrium the solution is. If dEV is 0.5%, then this will mean that even if a player were to maximally exploit all the tiny errors in his opponent's strategy, then he could only improve by at most 0.5% of the pot. In human terms, I'd say that even 10% would be impossible to achieve. So, from an educational perspective, no, I don't think that there's really much difference between 1 .5 .25 .1. The only exception may be solving to 0% in some exotic river spots. Sometimes there's some interesting effects to be found there.

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04-11-2019 , 03:02 AM

#7865

ToiletBowler

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

Hi Scylla,

I have ran a database on GTO+ and can see a table for Player 1 outlining bet/check %.

But is this available for Player 2? I would like to see a database on player 2's raise/call/fold % facing a bet, and his bet/check facing a check. I didn't see this available in the tutorial video. is there a way?

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04-11-2019 , 03:47 PM

#7866

x64asm

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 62

Hello scylla can you insert a "search flop box" like in this screenshot:

I have solved 3 different databases with different bet sizes and compare the GTO line against different bet sizing. Its super annoying to browser through the list of flops and search for a specific flop and sometimes when I take a look at Flop a then I want to take a quick look how GTO would play on flop B. Would be really cool if you could insert a search box so that it is easier to find the flop.

Maybe you could do something like this:
We insert a flop texture for example Ah2s5d and then the program jumps into the line of the flop list where the flop is.

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04-12-2019 , 02:42 AM

#7867

ToiletBowler

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

also nice stuff on the updated patch arranging databases with the largest card on the left!

But when exporting to excel they are still arranged randomly with the smallest or middle card on the left sometimes.

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04-12-2019 , 05:40 AM

#7868

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

If OOP has mulitple actions, then there will also be multiple spots where IP gets to act. So for example, if OOP either bets or checks then IP's actions would need to be displayed separately for each scenario by OOP. And each data point will have been measured for a different range and frequency for OOP. This means that this data for IP is essentially not suitable for being displayed in a table/graph. We can decide to ignore this, and plot it anyhow for later releases, but right at this moment it has been left out for this reason.

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04-12-2019 , 05:43 AM

#7869

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

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Originally Posted by x64asm

Hello scylla can you insert a "search flop box" like in this screenshot:

Have you tried sorting according to flop?
I think it should achieve what you're looking for.

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04-12-2019 , 05:44 AM

#7870

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

This issue was previously reported to me, although at the time I could not reproduce it.
I will give it another try today.

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04-12-2019 , 08:33 AM

#7871

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

Ah, I see what you mean now. Yes, we did indeed neglect to sort the flop prior to adding it to the output. I have now fixed this for the next update, which should be available roughly at the end of this month.

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04-12-2019 , 03:39 PM

#7872

ToiletBowler

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

Quote:

Originally Posted by scylla

a filter would be useful and make it easier to display. A drop down box that shows all the potential actions Player 1 can take, and then the table will display Player 2's actions depending on which of Player 1's actions is selected.

This seems like exactly the kind of stuff that the database functionality would be used for and could be a huge selling point.

To add to it, a search function would be useful because the "sort" function you mentioned has limited usefulness once you are using 50+ flops. So it would be in high demand i reckon!

Thanks

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04-12-2019 , 10:01 PM

#7873

kyang314

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 187

Am I running this wrong? I am trying to do a 3b Pot (sb vs button) SB -> Range 1, Button Range -> 2 on a board AK7ssd

I've included the picture of my tree and the solution, and I'm really surprised... shouldn't this be a massive range advantage of my range 1 (sb oop)... so I should be near 100% cbet with a small size?

Tree:

https://imgur.com/a/bj4kvVD

(Amounts are in bb...)

shouldn't this sim recommend 80-90% cbet with small size which I would simplify to near 100% cbet with 35% pot size?

Results
https://imgur.com/a/ve5qlML

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04-13-2019 , 03:00 AM

#7874

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,359

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyang314

There's nothing wrong with the tree; it's hard to pin down exactly why this would be the solution, but apparently this is it. From what I can tell, OOP has an equity of 57%, which is countered by the fact that he is out of position. So a ratio of 50-50 does not seem entirely unreasonable.

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04-17-2019 , 01:53 PM

#7875

gtno player

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 41

Hello Scylla,i,m running sims for srp 100 bbs deep and put 3 sizes on the turn 33%,80%,145% and 2 sizes 66% and 145% on the river but on the river when i choose 80 or 145 there's only one size less than 66%.is it because with only 2 bets put money smoothly is on?? or cause river size cant be as big as 145%?

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