Could you add into the database mode the option of bet/x distribution for both player1 and player 2?
Have you considered to add an option to the software in order to practise the strategies in a similar way as Simple GTO Trainer?

Seconding request for training module. It would be super helpful and I'd have no problem paying for it.

There's a few issues in displaying frequencies for player 2. First of all, if player 1 has multiple actions, then there's multiple decisions where player 2 gets to act. So it's not a single spot for player 2, but multiple spots. Each spot would need to get its own separate table. Secondly, and more importantly, player 1 will have a different betting/checking range for every flop. On some flops he may bluff a lot, on others he's only betting the absolute nuts. Although it's possible to plot player 2's reaction to player 1 across the different flops, the data for each flop is measured under completely different circumstances. As a consequence, this data isn't really suitable to be plotted in a graph/table. We can consider doing so anyhow for later releases, but right at this moment, we have left it out for this reason. As for your second request, I will take it under consideration.

There are situations like a SRP HU where player1 checks almost 100% of his range that makes it like a single spot for player 2 but I understand your point! Ty

Getting this message for some reason and I'm unable to run anything

Hi Scylla,

When I click on the turn report I can see which turn cards Player 1 bets on, but for Player 2 only the equity and EV appear. How do I know which cards the Player 2 bets on if Player 1 checks?

There's a few issues in displaying frequencies for player 2. First of all, if player 1 has multiple actions, then there's multiple decisions where player 2 gets to act. So it's not a single spot for player 2, but multiple spots. Each spot would need to get its own separate table. Secondly, and more importantly, player 1 will have a different betting/checking range for every flop. On some flops he may bluff a lot, on others he's only betting the absolute nuts. Although it's possible to plot player 2's reaction to player 1 across the different flops, the data for each flop is measured under completely different circumstances. As a consequence, this data isn't really suitable to be plotted in a graph/table. We can consider doing so anyhow for later releases, but right at this moment, we have left it out for this reason.

It sounds like you're still running one of the older beta versions.
Can you please upgrade to the latest release?
It can be downloaded here: http://www.gtoplus.com/download/

scylla, the new verify system will spend 5-8s when I open a new GTO file, that’s a issue when I want to compare multiple files’s data(spend a long waiting time). Can you improves the verify mode?

Just to be clear on what I'm talking about. Because I'm new to using GTO+ but I've been using CREV for years. And in CREV if I put a Targe dEV = 0.05 it solves the whole turn tree in a second. So in less than a minute CREV could solve the tree for all 47 possible cards on the turn. So if I click indicating exactly the point of the tree that I want to observe it would be easy to organize these 47 solutions in a chart, like you did for Player 1, or not?

I've done this but now it's running in trial mode. I've input the my key but it's telling me it isn't accepted.

GTO+ has its own system for keys now.
You can request a key for GTO+ here: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key
It will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.

If you require further support, then please mail support,

Scylla

The data is present in the engine, and we can always find ways to display it. The problem that I'm addressing in post #6957 is not that we don't have the data, but that the data isn't really suitable for plotting in a table/graph. We can ignore this fact and add this option anyhow, but right at this moment we have left it out for this reason.

The verify system does not check every time that you open a file.
Or at the very least it shouldn't.

Do you mean that:
1) you have the program open
2) open a savefile
3) the program waits to verify its license
4) you open another file with the same program
5) the program waits again to verify its license
6) go to 4)

Or do you perhaps mean something else?

All good now, thanks

Yes, like you described, I made a GIF(~30s), I use v1.1.2 and my system is win10.



file: https://d.pr/FREE/tD90rg

Scylla

What are the preflop ranges I can import and how do I use them?

You're loading savefiles by double-clicking them.
Every time you do this the program will need to restart.
Please try using "File->Open..." (or Ctrl+O) from within the software for opening files instead.

The ranges for GTO+ are stored in the file ./config/newdefs3.txt. GTO+ is capable of importing preflop ranges from other instances of GTO+, but also Flopzilla and CREV. Flopzilla and CREV use a different format, namely newdefs2.txt. In order to import these files into GTO+, first store the newdefs2.txt file to the same directory as GTO.exe. After that, run GTO+, go to "Settings->Import preflop ranges", select "newdefs2.txt" and click on "IMPORT RANGES".

What kind of ranges r we talking about?Optimal pre flop ranges?

I thought you were asking how to import ranges from another instance of GTO+/CREV/Flopzilla.
Did you mean something else?

Husker was asking ,I am asking does GTO+ has stored ranges from pre flop play and if, r those ranges optimally solved?

To simulate someone cbetting the flop 100% I'm currently removing the "check" branch then re-running the solver, is this correct?

I'm quite new to GTO+, is it worth learning how to use CREV for any exploitative stuff like this? Had a quick look and seems like a steep learning curve.

CREV is the absolute best for figuring out max exploit lines, but it is extremely time consuming to manually build the trees and set the appropriate ranges for every node. There's also the issue that when you go for a max exploit line you simply assume too much about how villain plays.

IMO while it can lead to some very powerful plays with the correct reads, your time would probably be better used learning optimal play or doing minimally exploitative play with GTO+. If you know the approximate solution for a given spot then most exploits become very apparent.

No, any ranges that we could offer would be completely subjective, even if they were GTO. Any change in stacks/pot/(preflop)play/etc would already mean the ranges did not apply to the situation.