also, being able to copy-paste a subtree in multiway hands would help too.

You can edit bet sizes by double-clicking an action. And if you want to replace an action with a "Fold" action, then you can just delete it, and add a fold action instead. For more on editing trees, such as deleting branches and changing the order of branches, please go to "Help->Video manual" and watch the video "How to edit a tree".

That being said, if this is a heads-up postflop tree, then please consider using the tree building wizard instead. With the wizard you can create postflop trees with play on unknown turns+rivers without much effort.

The tree building wizard can be used in conjuction with the GTO solver. For this, just create the tree and fill in any play that you see fit. You can leave the remaining part of the tree as it is and lock the actions where you have entered play by right-clicking them. Running the GTO solver will fill in the unlocked parts of the tree with GTO play.

For more on the tree building wizard and the solver, please watch the videos here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/download.html

Ok, I'll see what I can do here.

Hi

After I played around with PIO, I tried to put the same input in both programs to see what each programs(CR-EV and PIO) GTO-strategy recommends.I put a very simple range BTNvsBB3bet and to my surprise CR-EV and PIO have different lines....if is GTO then we should have the same solutions nooo?

I have a tight range for simplicity (the same result with a most complex range).

We are on the flop after BB3bet and BTNcall, C-bet-33%, R=2.75x, Target dEV=0.25%

BB-range:QQ+,AK=2.56%(34 combos)
BTN-range:JJ,TT,99,AKo,AQs-AJs,KQs,AQo=4.07%(54 combos)
Flop:J62

After a C-bet(58) from BB (Fq:99.8CR-EV and 99.62%PIO)...BTN response is:
-On CR-EV...21.5%Raise and he say JJ(top range) is a 100% Raise on so dry board even if EVRaiseJJ(499.76)<EVCallJJ(499.77)

-On PIO...0%Raise--->EVRaiseJJ(544.13)<EVCall(547.48)...normal line depending of EV.


Please explain why do you think that BTN strategy differs from a Cr-Ev to PIO(it is not normal if it's GTO) and why EV of JJ is not the same(499.76 vs 544.13).
Who is right Cr-Ev or PIO?
I can send you .stx file

Regards,
Horatiu

So, any news on multiple betsizes to the tree builder?

We prefer not to make prior anouncements about new features. When new features are added, then those will be made public when they are released. So unfortunately I can not answer your question.

So far, I have not run across a spot yet where the two programs give a different result. Usually differences that are reported turn out to come from switching IP and OOP or by comparing trees that are not exactly the same. That being said, can you please mail a savefile to support? Also, please send a screenshot of pio's tree builder so that I can hopefully see if there's perhaps a difference between the trees.

OK...I will do.I'm very curious about it.Thx.

Regards,

Ok, thank you. That being said, I haven't received your mail about this yet. Should you have already sent it, then it appears that a spam filter is in the way. In that case, can you please send to on of the backup addresses listed on the website? http://www.cardrunnersev.com/contact.html

Scylla,

I'm trying to learn how to use the equilibrium solver. I downloaded the free version and tried to look at the help videos, but got a consistent error from chrome saying the application can't start. Is this because I need to pay for the product to access the videos, or is there some other unknown problem?

Thanks in advance.

I assume you mean the operating system Chrome?
CardRunnersEV is software for Windows, so it will need to be run on that platform.

Ok, in the end this turned out to be due to different trees.
Same tree = same result.

Hi,

In the Tournament ICM calculator, is there a way CREV can report Risk premium?

it would be very handy to see how much extra equity is required to call raises or stack off vs different stacks.

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Hey Scylla,

Where are the Flozilla ranges stored on my PC?
Is there a way to import the Flopzilla's stored ranges into CREV?
I have a lot of ranges stored in Flopzilla and I always need to copy/paste the ranges into CREV...

Thanks

Another question:
When you use the Equilibrium solver OTF with unknown turns and rivers and then, after performing the calculations you change your range to a particular hand in order to see what line is the best with this particular hand.
Then you see that on the unknown turns with this particular hand you should bet 35% of the time and check 65%, how do you see on which turns you should bet and on which turns you should check?

Thanks

It would not be hard to add this feature from a math point-of-view, given that this number is fairly easy to calculate.
However, calculating this value would require a decent amount of input from the user, given that it would need to be known:
1) Which players are the active players
2) Which player is the one facing the shove
3) What is the size of the pot
4) How much has the player who is facing the shove bet at this point?
Right at this moment my efforts are directed elsewhere, however, if this were to be added I would need to give some thought as to where in the interface such a feature would need to be placed.

Your Flopzilla ranges and your ranges for CREV are both stored in the file newdefs2.txt.
If you want to copy your ranges from one program to another then all you would need to do would be to copy that file.


PS:
Should your ranges be important to you, then please consider making a backup of this file from time to time.

We have been planning to add this feature, however, given that recent development has been focussed on the speed of the solver and memory compression algorithms, we had not yet gotten to it in v333. However, if you check back in a few weeks then I'll add a feature that will display these numbers for you. Basically, all of this information is available in the tree; we would just need to add a window/dialog for displaying the data.

Cheers,

Scylla

Question about all settings/ranges txt/ini files. It could be very comfortable to have it in any cloud drive. I have computer and notebook and have to edit ranges on both.

Yes, this is indeed worth considering.
I'll see if I can add this in future releases.

Thank you for the feedback,

Scylla

Hi, could you explain what "compress memory(Beta)" do while using equilibrium solver? With option ON/OFF it solve faster/ slower or no differences?

It is possible to somehow cancel storing undo files?

Hi,

Thank you very much for your reply, The idea is to be able to estimate how much extra equity will be needed for calling bets, either all ins or just to peel from the big blind, some simpler tools can estimate risk premium for push fold, but cant estimate it for calling and seen the flop or for post flop actions.

I think including the Risk premium in the tree in the same way as pot odds, equity and ev are reported wouldn't require extra input from the user I include an example here



and for the ICM convertor I also included an example of how this can be done here





Hope this helps and thanks in advance.

Risk premium would depend on which player you're playing against, so adding it as you are suggesting in the ICM calculator would unfortunately not work. Also, it would require knowing how much has been bet by all players at that point and how much additional money is in the pot.


I don't immediately see how risk premium could be applied to just calling bets with play left.
From what I can tell, it's a property intended for calling all-ins.

It might be possible to add it somewhere in a popup.
I'll give that some thought.

Thank you for the feedback,

Scylla

The "Compress memory" option is only displayed for beta purposes at the moment. If this option is ON, then the GTO solver will only use roughly 40% of the memory that would be required otherwise. A downside of using this option is that the solver will run about 25% slower due to the need to decompress/compress memory when it is needed. In future releases this option will no longer be displayed though. The solver will then detect when there's not enough memory for it to run properly and automatically start compressing memory.