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09-07-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sorrow
Originally Posted by sorrow View Post
-- Add/Subtracts the amount of time in <general day_start="" from the config, set to 5 by default..
I don't mean to be stupid... I went to the configuration.py file, assuming that was the file to find "<general day_start=" and didn't find it. I found a greened out rem that talked about setting the time value, but no actual line to define it. I'm in the wrong file??

I also opened FPDB and checked all the preferences and didn't see it there. I know it can't be in the hud config... am I missing another config file that you are talking about in the above quote...??

Dog
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09-07-2010 , 03:44 PM
Hi, I was intructed to make this post in this thread to try and contact one of the following three people -

sorrow
Steffen123
Erasthones

Hello, I have played thousands of hours online and I am looking to hire someone to analyze the following data (I have all of my hand history saved) -

Per street EV analysis in all Razz, Stud high, Stud high lo hands, especially the ratio from 6th street to the result on the river.

Razz- percentage of how many times I fell high on 3rd street and had to open the pot

Percentage of how many times I caught “bad” and my opponent caught “good” on 4th street.

Percentage of times I had a two card lead on 5th street and lost the pot

Stud hi lo- Percentage of how many times I caught “bad” and my opponent caught “good” on 4th street in all scenarios, i.e., call/call, raise/call (both ways), and raise/re-raise (both ways). In Stud hi lo, this concept is a bit more ambiguous than in Razz, but it still can be done.
Please e-mail me at gameplayer6367@yahoo.com if interested. Thank you.
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09-07-2010 , 04:17 PM
For everyone that is not aware (trumpets sounding), there is a MAJOR update coming on Stars between now and Friday, according to the announcement. Features we've been screaming for over 3 years in some cases. Here's the link with all the details (hint: "sit out next BB), (remove from all waitlists), (average table stack in lobby cash games) and the list goes on... this may put a lot of 3rd party software berserk for a while till everyone does updates... beware developers..

Dog

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7851
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09-07-2010 , 09:19 PM
Hi gameplayer--

I also have an email from you on this. I don't think we want to get in to this discussion in this thread, but I'll give some brief answers here.

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Originally Posted by gameplayer6367
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Per street EV analysis in all Razz, Stud high, Stud high lo hands, especially the ratio from 6th street to the result on the river.
This is doable, it would be some work. It would mean getting the street-by-street hand info and feeding it in to something like the pokersource evaluator. One problem is that you are doing this only on hands where you have showdown info, which will skew the results. Also pokersource runs fine on Linux but is a pretty big bother to get running on Windows.
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Razz- percentage of how many times I fell high on 3rd street and had to open the pot
This is easy If you import your hand histories into fpdb, it will take just a few min to see this data. Use the sqlite database (the default) and install sqlite manager on your pc (that is the easy way to run the query you'll need.). I'll send you an email telling you how to get this out of the db.
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Percentage of how many times I caught “bad” and my opponent caught “good” on 4th street.
You don't know whether your opponent caught good unless you see showdown. Then the results are skewed because he often folds somewhere along the way. It would be easy to see if good 4th/bad 4th was near expectation though.
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Percentage of times I had a two card lead on 5th street and lost the pot
These guys who call 5th will fold 6th or 7th the vast majority of the time when they brick or you catch good on 6th. Looking at the showdown hands only considers when they got there.
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Stud hi lo- Percentage of how many times I caught “bad” and my opponent caught “good” on 4th street in all scenarios, i.e., call/call, raise/call (both ways), and raise/re-raise (both ways). In Stud hi lo, this concept is a bit more ambiguous than in Razz, but it still can be done.
This last bit boggles my mind a bit. Right now the fpdb db doesn't have the action info to do this (I think).

One last thing: You know that Full Tilt doesn't actually give you starting card info because they sort the hole cards high to low at showdown.
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09-07-2010 , 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
For everyone that is not aware (trumpets sounding), there is a MAJOR update coming on Stars between now and Friday, according to the announcement. Features we've been screaming for over 3 years in some cases. Here's the link with all the details (hint: "sit out next BB), (remove from all waitlists), (average table stack in lobby cash games) and the list goes on... this may put a lot of 3rd party software berserk for a while till everyone does updates... beware developers..

Dog

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7851
Thanks for the heads up. I don't see anything on the list that is certain to cause us a problem, but I'll probably check Stars for a software update 1st thing for the next few days.
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09-07-2010 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
I don't mean to be stupid... I went to the configuration.py file, assuming that was the file to find "<general day_start=" and didn't find it. I found a greened out rem that talked about setting the time value, but no actual line to define it. I'm in the wrong file??

I also opened FPDB and checked all the preferences and didn't see it there. I know it can't be in the hud config... am I missing another config file that you are talking about in the above quote...??

Dog
Apologies, I was a touch frustrated with something else yesterday.

In the config should be a 'general' section that looks like:
Code:
    <general version="1"
             config_wrap_len="-1"
             day_start="5"
             ui_language="system"
             config_difficulty="expert"
             />
On my system at the moment, a quick look at the code tells me that day_start came into existence on 2010-07-17, but the config option didn't exist until 2 weeks ago - a little after the last release from the looks of things.

If you want to mess with this directly Filters.py line ~960 is what you need to mes with.

Sorrow.
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09-08-2010 , 12:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gameplayer6367
Hi, I was intructed to make this post in this thread to try and contact one of the following three people -

sorrow
Steffen123
Erasthones
Out of curiosity - Who provided the instruction?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gameplayer6367
Hello, I have played thousands of hours online and I am looking to hire someone to analyze the following data (I have all of my hand history saved) -
'Hire someone to analyze' - what outputs would you be expecting there?

Are you expecting a series of reports? EV graphs? or something else.
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Per street EV analysis in all Razz, Stud high, Stud high lo hands, especially the ratio from 6th street to the result on the river.
As Eratosthenes said, this is skewed by showdown results. You would need to be quite strict in defining only %ge of river folds (both hero and villain) as a positive result
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Percentage of times I had a two card lead on 5th street and lost the pot
I dont think this stat has any value above 'per street' analysis. I assume '2 card lead' has a strictly defined meaning.

Card by card EV calcs are always biased towards hands that made it to showdown, so i'm a bit skeptical how useful the data would be. The theory forums have some good discussion on why.

Sorrow
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09-08-2010 , 12:33 AM
I have a little "bonus" for all the hard working developers on this project... hopefully, you don't already have this tool.

On the thread "Free poker mods" or something like that, a contributor has a web site where he promotes his own mods. That's not the bonus. He posted this link...

http://www.vvolfskinz.web-shop.us/in...=47&Itemid=100

While this is his website, the link will take you to a download page and he created a decryptor for the gx.ini file, with instructions on how to use it to create a simple text file for editing on Stars. Hope it helps you all somehow. Here's the page the post was made on... it's near the bottom of this long single post.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3288

Dog
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09-08-2010 , 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sorrow
Apologies, I was a touch frustrated with something else yesterday.

In the config should be a 'general' section that looks like:
Code:
    <general version="1"
             config_wrap_len="-1"
             day_start="5"
             ui_language="system"
             config_difficulty="expert"
             />
On my system at the moment, a quick look at the code tells me that day_start came into existence on 2010-07-17, but the config option didn't exist until 2 weeks ago - a little after the last release from the looks of things.

If you want to mess with this directly Filters.py line ~960 is what you need to mes with.

Sorrow.
So, if I want my day to start at 9pm, rather than midnight, that "should" sync me up with Eastern time, which is what Stars uses. I know I'll play with it till it's what I want. But 9pm would be "21" in place of the current "5". I assume I can't use "-" (minus) figures since us Californian's, as you say, are behind everyone else.

Thanks again...
Dog
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09-08-2010 , 02:00 AM
what does this "day_start" config thing represent?
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09-08-2010 , 02:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
So, if I want my day to start at 9pm, rather than midnight, that "should" sync me up with Eastern time, which is what Stars uses. I know I'll play with it till it's what I want. But 9pm would be "21" in place of the current "5". I assume I can't use "-" (minus) figures since us Californian's, as you say, are behind everyone else.

Thanks again...
Dog
Stars files (if you leave the default time set) should go into the database as UTC.

So the difference between UTC and local time (negative acceptable) is what the value is supposed to be _but_ mktime() may already be doing that for us, so 0 is the correct value for most people.

Please dont take my word for this though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ekdikeo
what does this "day_start" config thing represent?
day_start is probably a poor variable name, comments in the code indicate it is supposed to represent the users offset compared to GMT.

Sorrow
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09-08-2010 , 03:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sorrow
Stars files (if you leave the default time set) should go into the database as UTC.

So the difference between UTC and local time (negative acceptable) is what the value is supposed to be _but_ mktime() may already be doing that for us, so 0 is the correct value for most people.

Please dont take my word for this though.
So, you "think" that if I change the filters.py file to show "day_start" as "-7" in my case (GMT -8 and daylight savings +1) that it might/should make the adjustment to end my day at midnight on my stats locally.

Dog
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09-08-2010 , 03:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
So, you "think" that if I change the filters.py file to show "day_start" as "-7" in my case (GMT -8 and daylight savings +1) that it might/should make the adjustment to end my day at midnight on my stats locally.

Dog
Yes. It will definitely adjust the boundaries of the SQL query by a number of hours, i'm just not sure what the boundaries are on your machine currently.

Sorrow
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09-08-2010 , 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sorrow
Stars files (if you leave the default time set) should go into the database as UTC.
Dog, can you confirm what the first line of one of your hand histories looks like? (or whichever line it is that has the timestamp on it) The name of the file is irrelevant, it's the time recorded in the hand history that counts.

Quote:
So the difference between UTC and local time (negative acceptable) is what the value is supposed to be _but_ mktime() may already be doing that for us, so 0 is the correct value for most people.

Please dont take my word for this though.



day_start is probably a poor variable name, comments in the code indicate it is supposed to represent the users offset compared to GMT.
Sorry if you guys didn't realise this was there :-(

PokerTracker 2 has a concept of what time your poker playing day starts, e.g. if you typically play from 8pm until 2am local time, you don't want the play after midnight being counted as the next day, you want it to stay with the first 4 hours play. So you set day_start to some time after you generally finish play, but before you might continue on the next day, e.g. 5am. If the code in the filters works (maybe it doesn't??), hands played up to 5am on the day after the last date matching the filter should be included (with the default setting).

I'm guessing Dog should set this to something like 10 or 12, then 10 or 12 extra hours should be included in the previous day. Maybe. (I'm hoping the filter also excludes 10 or 12 hours at the beginning of the time range chosen ... it better do.)

Once this is all fixed, this setting should work relative to local time, but I put it in there because it's something I wanted in there anyway, and I figured it might make an easy way for users to configure their time settings for now. So maybe Dog would set this to about 1 or 2 when we have it working properly using local time, but for now he can add 7 or 8 hours extra to cover the shift from GMT as well.

sc.
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09-08-2010 , 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sorrow
Yes. It will definitely adjust the boundaries of the SQL query by a number of hours, i'm just not sure what the boundaries are on your machine currently.

Sorrow
That seemed to work on my ver906 in the configuration.py file, ~line565. I changed the "5" to "-7" and it was closer. I tried -8 not knowing what adjustments Windows may sense regarding daylight savings time. That was even closer. The two days I had computed were within a dollar or less and the hand count was close enough to perfect.

Thx
Dog
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09-08-2010 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sqlcoder
Dog, can you confirm what the first line of one of your hand histories looks like? (or whichever line it is that has the timestamp on it) The name of the file is irrelevant, it's the time recorded in the hand history that counts.
HH=

PokerStars Game #49290403866: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2010/09/07 17:05:47 PT [2010/09/07 20:05:47 ET]
Table 'Leo IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: rochen69 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 2: eltito555 ($1.16 in chips)
Seat 3: shemphoward ($0.72 in chips)
Seat 4: popo29 ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 5: DiSantos ($6.74 in chips)
Seat 6: ColdBayKid ($5.10 in chips)
Seat 7: T1hon ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 8: 1meandog4u ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: jfdHolliday ($1.62 in chips)

Some of my confusion is that we are talking about several things at once (apples vs oranges?).

Graphs and stars reports in the viewer seem to be affected by the change I made "-8" in the configuration.py file. I have yet to play today to test it further.

HUD stats were also different at 5pm locally (GMT time midnight) they would change the 3-day range for hero that I have in the hud config file. Then, it appeared, that at 9pm locally (midnight Eastern time which Stars seem to use as default) the graph and stats reports seemed to quit reporting anything until after midnight locally. I was going crazy.

Now with the -8 change I made, at least these reports seem to be basically accurate. The hud I will find out later today to see if the changes I made make it so that the hud stats don't change until approx midnight locally. I'll try and see and report back the results. I am using ver906 which I assume is the latest source release.

Dog
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09-09-2010 , 01:54 PM
I think I'm done fooling with the time issue for now. Seems nothing I did in the filter.py file had any affect. I did get the configuration.py to do what I wanted though. I set the day_start (after a LOT of trial and error) to "0" was the end result. That synced me up with Stars, it seems, and the HH files show my Pacific time adjustment right in them.

Bottom line... setting it to "0" in config made both graphs and ring stat report match up and ended my day at midnight locally. However, at 5pm locally (GMT -7) the hud stats for hero (set to one day) changed and started at zero again. So, part is working perfect, hud still is whacked out and apparently changing the day based on GMT. I probably didn't change the right thing.

This is what I changed (in red) in the filters.py file, it was the only reference I could find to day_start... I think it was ~line74

gen = self.conf.get_general_params()
self.day_start = 4
if 'day_start' in gen:
self.day_start = float(gen['day_start'])

I'll wait for the experts to figure this one out and how to make the hud sync up with the stats/graph reports. Those are where I want them.

Dog
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09-09-2010 , 07:04 PM
hey guys quick and easy question:

i was using a thumb drive for a long time to save my HHs since thats also where i had pokerstars installed....i recently broke my thumb drive but FPDB was not installed on it but rather its on my normal C drive. i was wondering and hoping that since i had run bulk import and auto import with FPDB that i did not lose all my old HHs.....am i wrong?

if not, where would these HHs be located i'm looking through my folder now
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09-09-2010 , 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sorrow
Apologies, I was a touch frustrated with something else yesterday.

Sorrow.
If that "thing" was me, I'm sorry (ducks)
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09-09-2010 , 09:56 PM
KAVILLA, your hand histories are still in the database FPDB uses, but if you upgrade or do anything else that requires you to rebuild the tables, you will lose them. That's why they say keep the actual files around; so you can re-import them with bulk import.

How bad is the drive broken? You might be able to recover the raw data from it. According to the super-spy shows on tv, you can get the info back after they have been burned, ran over by a truck, chewed by a dog, or shot with a 9mm. YMMV

BTW, if the drive is beyond recovery you can ask Pokerstars to send you your histories. The history you get through the PS interface is limited, but if you email them and ask for the entire history, they will get them to you. Look back a few pages in this thread for one of my posts discussing this and what you have to do to import those files from PS.

Good luck.
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09-09-2010 , 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
hey guys quick and easy question:

i was using a thumb drive for a long time to save my HHs since thats also where i had pokerstars installed....i recently broke my thumb drive but FPDB was not installed on it but rather its on my normal C drive. i was wondering and hoping that since i had run bulk import and auto import with FPDB that i did not lose all my old HHs.....am i wrong?

if not, where would these HHs be located i'm looking through my folder now
Save that database!

The easiest thing to do is to go back to the poker sites and get the HHs from them. Alternatively, if you do some googling, you might be able to figure out how to recover some data from that USB drive.

At some point we will write a routine that queries the db to make Hand objects. Hand objects can be written out as PokerStars format HHs. AFAIK nobody is working on this right now, so it isn't about to happen overnight.

OK, I'm going to stop web surfing and back up my HHs right now.
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09-09-2010 , 11:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1meandog4u
However, at 5pm locally (GMT -7) the hud stats for hero (set to one day) changed and started at zero again. So, part is working perfect, hud still is whacked out and apparently changing the day based on GMT. I probably didn't change the right thing.
I have no idea how the HUD calculates and adjusts time.

I'm pretty sure it isn't using the day_start parameter though.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
...lost hand histories...
No we dont save them yet. Email support@pokerstars.com - best support in the business.

When they send you the archive files,

Quote:
Originally Posted by tchaz
If that "thing" was me, I'm sorry (ducks)
Nope not you
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09-10-2010 , 12:25 AM
thanks guys cant believe i didnt think about that.



see the strange thing is, is that my HUD still shows alot of hands for example, 30k hands for me at certain stakes....so its getting the information from somewhere no??
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09-10-2010 , 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
thanks guys cant believe i didnt think about that.



see the strange thing is, is that my HUD still shows alot of hands for example, 30k hands for me at certain stakes....so its getting the information from somewhere no??
It does store the hands in a database, but not in a form that can be reconstructed (yet)

On your next upgrade, you will still need to delete that data and re-import.
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09-11-2010 , 03:51 PM
hi

sorry for my English I use google translate because I speak only french.

The program "FPDB" works well with the network Merge?

Because I just install on "windows vista" and the chart of my last session seems strange.

It gives me a gain of $ 32.62 now, I am a losing player.
I currently have a cashier for $ 176.59 out of memory I'm not yet dropped below $ 150.

I also have a no - SD which seems very big for a player Weak-TAG

I may be wrong is my first tracker.

Attached Chart

Cordially



ps : my skin is bigbetpoker.com
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