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Thanks. So if I get this going and a month from now some guy who never played at a table with me enters a room I'm in, the "HUD" will have no information on him, correct?

You can and should bulk import your existing HHs. In fact, bulk importing a few HHs is the first thing you should do to see if it is working. Then the HUD will have stats from all the HHs you bulk imported. But yeah, fpdb only knows about hands that you have imported.

Also, fpdb has nothing to do with actually saving your HHs on the hard drive. The poker client controls that. If you have not been saving HHs, Stars and FTP will email them to you.

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03-04-2010 , 01:00 PM

#2827

padre_maronno

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1meandog4u

Hds = Total hands you are dealt in

VPIP = Hands you "Voluntarily Put Money In Pot" blinds not included

PFR = Preflop raise (% of time you raise preflop)

PF3 = How many times YOU make it three bets preflop

Steals = When you are the first person in the pot, on the button and raise (stealing blinds)

SawF = You saw the flop vs hands dealt in

SawSD = Saw showdown. If you bet and win the pot without a call, it does NOT include that as a showdown

WtSDwsF = Went to showdown when saw flop

W$SDwsf = Won money at showdown when saw flop

FlAFq = % of time you bet/raise after seeing flop (flop aggression)

TuAFq = % of time you bet/raise after seeing Turn (turn aggression)

RvAFq = % of time you bet/raise after seeing River (river aggression)

Net($) = Money won (assuming you win

) Green is win, Red is Loss

bb/100 = how many big blinds you win or lose per 100 hands

Rake = How much rake you paid when winning a pot

bbxr/100 = (a wasted stat IMHO) how many big blinds per 100 hands if you didn't pay rake (but we HAVE to pay rake!

)

Variance = Don't know how they compute it, but the lower the figure, the better your play

In the "Hand breakdown" section there is also...

SawF = Saw Flop, % of time vs dealt hands

SawSD = Saw showdown, % of time vs saw flop

This will get you a general idea of what each column represents without getting into the formulas specifically (which may or may not be accurate )

Dog

Thank you dog
I have just one comment and some more questions.....the comment is made in order to understand better.....I don't want to be a smart ass!-)

1)YOU WROTE: Steals = When you are the first person in the pot, on the button and raise (stealing blinds)
I THINK THAT FPDB CONSIDER ALSO THE CUT OFF POSITION AND THE SB AS STEALING POSITIONS.

2) my "variance field" is empty....blank.....I thought that it was not enabled on FPDB, but apparently it works for you.....mmmmhhhh I wonder why is completely empty for me....

3) QUESTION ABOUT HUD: the continuation bet % shown in my HUD makes no sense. It gives me 20% while I would expect it to be MUCH HIGHER. I would imagine that FPDB should work out this % as (Number of times I make a CB at the flop when I opened with a bet preflop) divided (Number of times I I opened with a bet preflop)......well after all you make a cb ONLY if you have been the "first" to bet preflop.... BY THE WAY THE 20% figure is far too low based on the way I play.....therefore....I think FPDB use a different formula.....any ideas?

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03-04-2010 , 06:39 PM

#2828

Eratosthenes

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Originally Posted by padre_maronno

In fpdb the steal stat is the aggregate of CO, Btn, and SB. I'm lobbying to split those out.

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2) my "variance field" is empty....blank.....I thought that it was not enabled on FPDB, but apparently it works for you.....mmmmhhhh I wonder why is completely empty for me....

Could be that you are using sqlite and don't have numpy installed--meaning that you don't get graphs either. If it isn't a missing numpy problem, what versions are you running? (Help menu -> about. Copy/paste version information.)

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3) QUESTION ABOUT HUD: the continuation bet % shown in my HUD makes no sense. It gives me 20% while I would expect it to be MUCH HIGHER. I would imagine that FPDB should work out this % as (Number of times I make a CB at the flop when I opened with a bet preflop) divided (Number of times I I opened with a bet preflop)......well after all you make a cb ONLY if you have been the "first" to bet preflop.... BY THE WAY THE 20% figure is far too low based on the way I play.....therefore....I think FPDB use a different formula.....any ideas?

Yeah, I just looked at cbet stats. They look wrong and so does the code that calculates them.

On the subject of buggy stats: We are trying to verify stats right now. This is a pretty big job and is darn hard. You guys can help by pointing out bad stats. It would be even better if you send a HH where the stat is calculated correctly.

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03-04-2010 , 07:11 PM

#2829

padre_maronno

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eratosthenes

I have this one installed....

Free Poker Database (FPDB) 0.12
Operating System nt
Python 2.5
GTK+ 2.14.7
PyGTK 2.12.1
matplotlib 0.98.3
numpy 1.2.1
sqlite3 2.3.2
sqlite 3.3.4
database sqlite

with sqlite indeed but in theory with numpy too but probably even if it seems installed it is not installed correctly....the graphs work fine (i.e. the one showing profit vs hands works) at least the total profit. I think I installed the zipped version for windows installer.....if I remember correctly.
I did not encounter any problems when I installed FPPD everything went incredibly smoothly. The main things that do not work on my FPDB seem to be:
1) variance column: completely blank
2) poker table viewer (mostly obsolete): does not work but I think I read in a past post that with sqlite it should not work at all....so that is fine I guess.

great job by the way. compliments.

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03-04-2010 , 07:26 PM

#2830

1meandog4u

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I think I have all the modules installed, on the 1-20 fpdb, mysql, but I don't get graphs. I get an error in the command window...

"Global Name 'FigureCanvas' is not defined"

Okay, what does that indicate.

Dog

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03-04-2010 , 10:33 PM

#2831

Eratosthenes

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Originally Posted by padre_maronno

...
2) my "variance field" is empty....blank.....I thought that it was not enabled on FPDB, but apparently it works for you.....mmmmhhhh I wonder why is completely empty for me....

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Originally Posted by Eratosthenes

Looks like missing variance in the player stats screen is a newly implemented bug.

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03-04-2010 , 11:55 PM

#2832

sorrow

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Originally Posted by 3-4blitzpackage

EDIT Oh ok. I had no idea. I didn't have the historys enabled yet. So I played and got a few on there. Imported. What's next? there are no instructions left on this http://****************/apps/mediawik...etting_Started page. A better link for me?

That page is intended to be the new user instructions page. It is still a work in progress unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by 1meandog4u

Dog

Have the graphs ever worked for you Dog?

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Originally Posted by Eratosthenes

Looks like missing variance in the player stats screen is a newly implemented bug.

I wrote the code to fix that for sqlite a while ago, it appears 'fpdb-mme' commented out the line for sqlite. I think something has reverted some code in that file. Enabling it means that numpy is now a required library.

Sorrow.

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03-05-2010 , 12:01 AM

#2833

sorrow

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Originally Posted by sorrow

Have the graphs ever worked for you Dog?

Cancel that.

Can you run a python shell then enter:

from matplotlib.backends.backend_gtk import FigureCanvasGTK as FigureCanvas

If that doesn't return successfully, then matplotlib isn't installed correctly.

Sorrow

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03-05-2010 , 12:18 AM

#2834

sorrow

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Hi all,

We are looking at putting out a major release in the next couple of days.

I've just put up a snapshot called 0.20-20100305.tar.gz - which is basically a tonne of bug fixes since the last snapshot, and the last .exe release.

There were several crashers fixed, the stats are becoming more accurate, and an update for the new Party hand history format.

Please test this if you can and report back - it is likely to be very close to what we finally release.

Thanks

Sorrow.

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03-05-2010 , 01:03 AM

#2835

1meandog4u

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sorrow

Have the graphs ever worked for you Dog?

Sorrow.

Nope. Just thought I'd give it a try and got that new error. Guess it's not ready for prime time yet.... oh well

Dog

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03-05-2010 , 06:53 PM

#2836

uncooper

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 124

Just tried the new version. I (backed up and) dropped my database and recreated. For the first time, every single hand imported without error!

Code:

GuiBulkImport.load done: Stored: 21047  Duplicates: 0   Partial: 0      Errors: 0 in 253.049557209 seconds - 83/sec

That's 21k hands in like 4.5 mins, not bad!

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03-06-2010 , 01:56 AM

#2837

Eleatic Stranger

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I have done some experimentation with the function to colour-code statistics in the HUD. Thanks for adding this (I'm not sure which of the developers did the work); I can foresee that I'll be using it a lot in future.

Some comments:

1. It's not quite finished yet, I think. In particular, it looks as if there's an error in the logic insofar as the text colour is modified as soon as a statistic falls within the low or the high range, but not changed back to the "standard" colour if it moves back into the "middle" range. (Or am I wrong? I haven't tested much.)

2. I'd prefer to have the background colour changed. If your HUD is predominantly white text on black it makes sense to indicate an unusual number with (say) red text rather than white. But if you have set it to show black on white (as I have), you want the text to stay black for the sake of readability and the background to change.

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03-06-2010 , 04:05 AM

#2838

Eleatic Stranger

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Ignore my point 1. I've ascertained that the colours do revert to the "standard" colour as they should. I still have a lot of experimentation to do.

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03-06-2010 , 02:35 PM

#2839

Banzai

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Maybe I'm being very stupid, but does "Preferred Seat" work for Pokerstars Razz cash games due to the static dealer button?

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03-06-2010 , 04:05 PM

#2840

Eratosthenes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Banzai

Maybe I'm being very stupid, but does "Preferred Seat" work for Pokerstars Razz cash games due to the static dealer button?

It does work for stud/razz. Stars puts the button image to the right of the player actually in seat 1. You have to go in to the preferred seat thing in the Stars client and set the preferred seat for the 8 handed tables AND set the fav_seat thing in the 8 handed Stars layout in the HUD_config.xml file.

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03-07-2010 , 04:13 AM

#2841

Eleatic Stranger

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I've experimented with hacking the source to colour-code the HUD background exactly to my liking. I've found that what I really want is that the background of the whole stat window (not just one statistic) is coloured (for maximum visibility) to indicate the style of the player. I did this by adding a new "statistic" to Stats.py:

Code:

def plr_type(stat_dict, player):
    try:
        if vpip(stat_dict, player)[0] < 0.12:
            # Tight
            return (1, "#E0E080")
        elif vpip(stat_dict, player)[0] > 0.3 and stat_dict[player]['vpip'] >= 4:
            # Loose
            return (2, "#80B0FF")
        else:
            return (0, "#E0E0FF")
    except:
        return (0, "#E0E0FF")

Hud.py then calls the function and sets the background colour to the returned value.

I resorted to this after realising that the existing mechanism doesn't allow for complex decisions, e.g. I don't want a player categorised as "loose" until he has been observed to put money in voluntarily at least 4 times (otherwise if he happened to play the first hand he would be incorrectly categorised according to a VPIP of 100%).

I wonder whether there would be more widespread interest in some such mechanism, whereby the user could add a new Python function according to his needs. Or am I just over-engineering things?

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03-07-2010 , 04:30 AM

#2842

sorrow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleatic Stranger

Code:

def plr_type(stat_dict, player):
    try:
        if vpip(stat_dict, player)[0] < 0.12:
            # Tight
            return (1, "#E0E080")
        elif vpip(stat_dict, player)[0] > 0.3 and stat_dict[player]['vpip'] >= 4:
            # Loose
            return (2, "#80B0FF")
        else:
            return (0, "#E0E0FF")
    except:
        return (0, "#E0E0FF")

For the decision you are speaking about, i don't think it matters all that much - but there is certainly room for this sort of complex decision making.

I dont think the stat pages code is going to see all that much work - i thikn the intent is to replace it with the aux_window interface (this is what the mucked card display uses) before we go too much further.

I do like the idea of making the entire background change color rather than just the stat for certain decisions. After we get this release out i'll take a look at this further.

Sorrow.

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03-07-2010 , 06:55 AM

#2843

Banzai

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Originally Posted by Eratosthenes

This doesn't appear to work.

I have set my preferred seat in the Stars software and changed my preferred seat (to 6) in the config.

The problem comes when I join a Razz table, the button never appears to be in a consistent position relative to the "chip tray" at the top of the table.

When the HUD appears, I can move seats to where my stats are but I want it to work the other way round.

I just tried to sit at 2 different empty tables:

On each table I clicked a different "Empty Seat", I ended up in the same seat relative to the chip tray but the button was in 2 completely different places.

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03-07-2010 , 01:07 PM

#2844

Eratosthenes

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I just played razz for a few min on Stars with fav_seat = 4. It worked ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banzai

The chip tray never gets moved--it is always at the top center of the client image. The button indicates the actual dealer position (mmm, actual meaning what it is in the HH).

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When the HUD appears, I can move seats to where my stats are but I want it to work the other way round.

I just tried to sit at 2 different empty tables:

On each table I clicked a different "Empty Seat", I ended up in the same seat relative to the chip tray but the button was in 2 completely different places.

This is the way it is designed to work.

Make sure you are editing the correct HUD_config.xml file. It should be in the c:\Documents and Settings\YOUR_NAME\Application Data\fpdb\ folder.
Make sure you set the fav_seat for the 8 handed layout under the Stars element. It is easy to set the first one you see and that is for FTP or something.

You can check what fpdb thinks your fav_seat is by going to the Main menu->Preferences->supported_sites->site PokerStars->(find the layout with max = 8). You can then double click on the fav_seat and change it and save it. (I've never actually tested this myself.

)

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03-07-2010 , 01:55 PM

#2845

Banzai

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OK, thanks for the reply but some additional information:

It doesn't work!!! I hope you agree or else I'm going mad!!!!!

I just sat at 2 tables, according to the HH, on the first I was in seat 5 and on the second I was in seat 2 yet on the screen I was at the same position at each table (the button was in 2 different places) I have included the actual hhs from the screenshot hands below):

PokerStars Game #40805292801: Razz Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/03/07 17:36:36 WET [2010/03/07 12:36:36 ET]
Table 'Galene II' 8-max
Seat 1: 666PiK ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 3: cir51 ($9.05 in chips)
Seat 4: squat600 ($16.90 in chips)
Seat 5: PKnighter ($10.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Bettsy ($13.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Falcmaster ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ro168 ($4.35 in chips)
666PiK: posts the ante $0.05
cir51: posts the ante $0.05
squat600: posts the ante $0.05
PKnighter: posts the ante $0.05
Bettsy: posts the ante $0.05
Falcmaster: posts the ante $0.05
ro168: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to 666PiK [2d]
Dealt to cir51 [7s]
Dealt to squat600 [6c]
Dealt to PKnighter [4c Qd 6h]
Dealt to Bettsy [8s]
Dealt to Falcmaster [9s]
Dealt to ro168 [8h]
Falcmaster: brings in for $0.10
ro168: folds
666PiK: folds
cir51: calls $0.10
squat600: folds
PKnighter: folds
Bettsy: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to cir51 [7s] [Qc]
Dealt to Falcmaster [9s] [Kc]
cir51: checks
Falcmaster: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to cir51 [7s Qc] [6d]
Dealt to Falcmaster [9s Kc] [Jh]
cir51: bets $0.50
Falcmaster: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to cir51
cir51 collected $0.55 from pot
cir51: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.55 | Rake $0
Seat 1: 666PiK folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: cir51 collected ($0.55)
Seat 4: squat600 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PKnighter folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bettsy folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Falcmaster folded on the 5th Street
Seat 8: ro168 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #40805286657: Razz Limit ($0.04/$0.08 USD) - 2010/03/07 17:36:28 WET [2010/03/07 12:36:28 ET]
Table 'Eurydike II' 8-max
Seat 1: pokernut6 ($1.47 in chips)
Seat 2: PKnighter ($1.47 in chips)
Seat 4: sad74 ($0.72 in chips)
Seat 5: bigdom999 ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 7: mrpickles727 ($2.66 in chips)
Seat 8: johsha ($1.68 in chips)
pokernut6: posts the ante $0.01
PKnighter: posts the ante $0.01
sad74: posts the ante $0.01
bigdom999: posts the ante $0.01
mrpickles727: posts the ante $0.01
johsha: posts the ante $0.01
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to pokernut6 [7s]
Dealt to PKnighter [4c Jc Qh]
Dealt to sad74 [Kc]
Dealt to bigdom999 [8s]
Dealt to mrpickles727 [8c]
Dealt to johsha [Ah]
sad74: brings in for $0.02
bigdom999: raises $0.02 to $0.04
mrpickles727: calls $0.04
johsha: folds
pokernut6: folds
PKnighter: folds
sad74: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to bigdom999 [8s] [4h]
Dealt to mrpickles727 [8c] [Qc]
bigdom999: bets $0.04
mrpickles727: calls $0.04
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to bigdom999 [8s 4h] [Jh]
Dealt to mrpickles727 [8c Qc] [2s]
bigdom999: bets $0.08
mrpickles727: calls $0.08
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to bigdom999 [8s 4h Jh] [4d]
Dealt to mrpickles727 [8c Qc 2s] [2c]
mrpickles727: checks
bigdom999: bets $0.08
mrpickles727: calls $0.08
*** RIVER ***
mrpickles727: checks
bigdom999: bets $0.08
mrpickles727: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.08) returned to bigdom999
bigdom999 collected $0.54 from pot
bigdom999: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.56 | Rake $0.02
Seat 1: pokernut6 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PKnighter folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sad74 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 5: bigdom999 collected ($0.54)
Seat 7: mrpickles727 folded on the River
Seat 8: johsha folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Thanks in advance.

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03-07-2010 , 02:16 PM

#2846

Eratosthenes

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Hi all--

I just uploaded a new windows exe file. This is essentially the same as the .tar.gz file that was uploaded by sorrow a couple of days ago. If you have that version running there is no reason to get this one. If you are using one of the .12 snaps, this is probably a worthwhile upgrade. It is now the default download for windows users.

get it here

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03-07-2010 , 02:25 PM

#2847

Eratosthenes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Banzai

OK, thanks for the reply but some additional information:

It doesn't work!!! I hope you agree or else I'm going mad!!!!!
...

OK, Stars is putting you in the 4 position and the HUD is showing your stats in the 7 position. You should be able to find this bit:

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in your HUD_config and change it to say fav_seat="4"

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03-07-2010 , 04:28 PM

#2848

Antani

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hi, i play on ShuPoker, an everleaf gaming skin
i'm trying to use fpdb's HUD ma i'm failing:

I use Windows XP, i read the documentation
I downloaded the installer and installed it.
I went to: Database->Create or re-create tables. (like in the "getting started" page on the wiki)
i went to Import->Bulk Import
then selected the hand history folder in the ShuPoker folder
it says "Import Complete"
i went on Main->Preferences
then fpdb->supported_site->site Everleaf->Site_Path and i select the ShuPoker folder, then i went on screen name and insert my nickname, then enabled and i wrote "True", then HH_Path and selected the handhistory folder in the shupoker folder, In
TableFinder
Decoder
Converter
i don't know what i should wrote...should i leave him with the default words?(the default settings are: Everleaf.exe/Everleaf_decode_table/EverleafToFpdb)

I open the hud&autoimport, then i open a table of shu poker and start playing but nothing happens

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03-07-2010 , 06:21 PM

#2849

Banzai

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eratosthenes

OK, Stars is putting you in the 4 position and the HUD is showing your stats in the 7 position. You should be able to find this bit:
in your HUD_config and change it to say fav_seat="4"

OK, there is still a problem, can I ask you to sit at 2 Razz tables at the same time and see what happens?

The problem seems to come from the fact that Stars "randomly" places the button which means that the seating preferred seat and the HUD preferred seat only match up on average every 8th time.