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Originally Posted by Dreamstrike13
Can't find GTO+ page, presume here is fine?
The thread can be found here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...nersev-155966/
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Originally Posted by Dreamstrike13
I'm doing a database analysis. SB vs BB 40bb eff for MTT. I've got PF ranges from Modern Poker theory, I'm comparing/contrasting these ranges with a course I'm on to see if there's an EV difference between the two strategies. I'm going to do the same database of 55 flops(is this enough?) and compare the performance of:
- MPT SB vs MPT BTN 40bb eff
- Course ranges SB vs Course BTN 40bb eff
- MPT SB vs Course BTN range 40bb eff
- Course SB vs MPT BTN range 40 bb eff
I've setup a tree 33,55,77 for OOP betting, what are the benefits of adding the (d) for donking? I'm interested in whether or not GTO+ wants to donk, and what sizing it would like to use OTF and OTT.
As it actually turns out, in GTO, bet sizing is almost completely irrelevant. In GTO, for the solution for any bet size, a solution will exist for a different bet size that has almost the exact same performance. All bet sizes perform very closely to each other (typically within 1%). You can check this for yourself by creating the same tree, but for different bet sizes. After that, solve the trees and compare their overall EV. This EV can be found below the table in the very first decision for OOP. See the screenshot below. As you will notice, this EV will barely change, regardless of which bet sizes you use; even very large or very small ones. So GTO solutions don't really prefer any bet size, and the approach of using multiple sizes to see which one is preferred doesn't really work.
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Originally Posted by Dreamstrike13
Also interested in the database as a whole to see how the ranges interact over various flop textures. My other settings are the same on for all positions and streets (33,55,77, 3x raise). I mainly did this as I have no idea what I'm doing tbh. I'd like to include overbetting. Anyone got ideas on why/when the solver would like to do this?
All bet sizings will have nearly the same performance. As a result, when using multiple bet sizes to see which sizes performs best, you're mostly just looking at static. If you make even a slight change to the ranges or tree then the frequencies may already shift to a different configuration.
Last edited by scylla; 11-07-2019 at 04:26 AM.