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12-17-2010 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by x148318
Im new to this so unsure how to send you a personal message suic!deking. But this is actually very obvious and Im sure it wont be long until other players work it out. But the tilt buster thing went off and was counting down and I was still able to play on after I did somethin. Lemme know how to send you a personal message and il let you know. It must of been a glitch becauseit wasnt exactly rocket science.
Hey X,

Shoot me an email at support@tiltbreaker.com and we will figure out what happened.

Thanks for the report,
S!K
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12-17-2010 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Hey X,

Shoot me an email at support@tiltbreaker.com and we will figure out what happened.

Thanks for the report,
S!K
Thanks, I have just sent an email to you now.
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12-18-2010 , 11:01 AM
I'm trying out the trial version and had my tables closed 2 or 3 times now whilst in the middle of a hand. Is it even supposed to do that? Shouldn't i be allowed to finish the hand?

If that's the way it works, you should at least add some auditory alarm so it's very clear that the tables will be closing within the next 3 minutes.
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12-18-2010 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Roeschaart
I'm trying out the trial version and had my tables closed 2 or 3 times now whilst in the middle of a hand. Is it even supposed to do that? Shouldn't i be allowed to finish the hand?

If that's the way it works, you should at least add some auditory alarm so it's very clear that the tables will be closing within the next 3 minutes.
There is a countdown timer.

Check that it isnt set to zero.

If you set it to 3 minutes the you will get a 3 minute warning etc.
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12-18-2010 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by x148318
Im new to this so unsure how to send you a personal message suic!deking. But this is actually very obvious and Im sure it wont be long until other players work it out. But the tilt buster thing went off and was counting down and I was still able to play on after I did somethin. Lemme know how to send you a personal message and il let you know. It must of been a glitch becauseit wasnt exactly rocket science.
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Originally Posted by Roeschaart
I'm trying out the trial version and had my tables closed 2 or 3 times now whilst in the middle of a hand. Is it even supposed to do that? Shouldn't i be allowed to finish the hand?

If that's the way it works, you should at least add some auditory alarm so it's very clear that the tables will be closing within the next 3 minutes.
Interestingly enough you both had the exact opposite problems.

X's problem was that the table was not closed during a hand, which allowed him to bypass the lockdown on some tables, while your issue was that it did close during a hand.

Roeschart,

I apologize that you were forced out of your hands, but the program is set up that way, because you would be able to bypass the program by continuing the hand. I'm assuming you are on FTP, because we added additional code to deal with the "Are you sure you want to close your table?" prompt. Apparently there is a bug on the poker site X148318 plays on though.

As to your other concern, there is a visual delay timer that comes up on your screen to let you know how much time you have before TB closes your tables. You can also see it in your task bar. I am guessing the timer got hidden behind a table though. In the next build we will make it so that the timers stay on top of all windows.

The solution to both of the problems you guys encountered is to just increase your Delay Timer time in your configuration panel. I think the default is at 3 minutes, but I would suggest setting it to 5 or higher just to be safe. I'll make sure the default is set higher in the next build as well.

Thanks,

S!K
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12-18-2010 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Interestingly enough you both had the exact opposite problems.

X's problem was that the table was not closed during a hand, which allowed him to bypass the lockdown on some tables, while your issue was that it did close during a hand.

Roeschart,

I apologize that you were forced out of your hands, but the program is set up that way, because you would be able to bypass the program by continuing the hand. I'm assuming you are on FTP, because we added additional code to deal with the "Are you sure you want to close your table?" prompt. Apparently there is a bug on the poker site X148318 plays on though.

As to your other concern, there is a visual delay timer that comes up on your screen to let you know how much time you have before TB closes your tables. You can also see it in your task bar. I am guessing the timer got hidden behind a table though. In the next build we will make it so that the timers stay on top of all windows.

The solution to both of the problems you guys encountered is to just increase your Delay Timer time in your configuration panel. I think the default is at 3 minutes, but I would suggest setting it to 5 or higher just to be safe. I'll make sure the default is set higher in the next build as well.

Thanks,

S!K
I was playing on Pokerstars.

Tbh, i don't really see how finishing your current hand is a bypass.
I do have the "sit out next hand" option ticked, i was under the impression that would sit me out the next hand...
Perhaps TB isn't compatible with custom themes, because it definitely didn't sit me out?


And yes, the timer was hidden behind a table. Can't you force the timer window to the front or better yet, highlight the table edges in red, make the button flash, sound an alarm,... It would be pretty hard to miss any of those.
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12-18-2010 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Roeschaart
I was playing on Pokerstars.

Tbh, i don't really see how finishing your current hand is a bypass.
I do have the "sit out next hand" option ticked, i was under the impression that would sit me out the next hand...
Perhaps TB isn't compatible with custom themes, because it definitely didn't sit me out?


And yes, the timer was hidden behind a table. Can't you force the timer window to the front or better yet, highlight the table edges in red, make the button flash, sound an alarm,... It would be pretty hard to miss any of those.
Roes,

It creates a bypass because TB only makes one effort to close all your tables, thus if you are able to play past that effort you will be able to continue play. As I said, simply increasing your Delay Timer will resolve this. I will brainstorm on a better way to execute the lockdown as well.

The custom themes issue is more concerning though. Stars' widget to SONH or SONBB on all tables is in the same place right? If it is I'm not sure why it didn't work.

Even still, having a custom theme on Stars would only interrupt the SONH/SONBB checking. All of the other automation won't be impacted, so at worst case you would just have to use the Stars widget manually once the Delay Timer came up.

I will be sure to have the timers stay at the forefront in the next build.

Sorry again for your inconveniance,

S!K
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12-18-2010 , 01:44 PM
Maybe it should make several attempts to close tables.. perhaps 3 seperate tries 60 seconds apart.
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12-18-2010 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
Maybe it should make several attempts to close tables.. perhaps 3 seperate tries 60 seconds apart.
Stu,

Yea probably something like that. Like for the first effort to close cash tables, we will take out the code that deals with the "are you sure you want to leave?" prompt, but then we'll have TB make another final attempt 2-3 minutes later, but this time with the additional code. So the first attempt would let you continue to play on tables that you are in a hand, but the second attempt will close tables no matter what. Thanks for the input.

Did you read about the Game Plan notes feature? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that. Here's the concept again:

I want to make a feature that would attach sticky notes to the sides of the tables, I'd call it "Game Plan Notes". Ideally you would type up your game plan for a session (such as reminders to incorporate something new into your game, or mantras to not tilt, etc) and they would be attached onto your tables. Seeing them come up with your tables during play would help you to remember to do those things. I write notes for my sessions all the time, but I always get too focused to remember to read them.


Thanks,
S!K

Last edited by suic!deking; 12-18-2010 at 04:05 PM. Reason: added Gameplan Notes idea
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12-19-2010 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
Stu,

Yea probably something like that. Like for the first effort to close cash tables, we will take out the code that deals with the "are you sure you want to leave?" prompt, but then we'll have TB make another final attempt 2-3 minutes later, but this time with the additional code. So the first attempt would let you continue to play on tables that you are in a hand, but the second attempt will close tables no matter what. Thanks for the input.

Did you read about the Game Plan notes feature? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that. Here's the concept again:

I want to make a feature that would attach sticky notes to the sides of the tables, I'd call it "Game Plan Notes". Ideally you would type up your game plan for a session (such as reminders to incorporate something new into your game, or mantras to not tilt, etc) and they would be attached onto your tables. Seeing them come up with your tables during play would help you to remember to do those things. I write notes for my sessions all the time, but I always get too focused to remember to read them.


Thanks,
S!K
I like the game plan idea. I think it would be very sefull.
The only snag I see is that I use S&T and that means that tables are being auto moved around the screen. The notes would need to move with the table. S&T would move the table, but would the notes move with it?
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12-20-2010 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
I like the game plan idea. I think it would be very sefull.
The only snag I see is that I use S&T and that means that tables are being auto moved around the screen. The notes would need to move with the table. S&T would move the table, but would the notes move with it?
Cool. I've talked to a pretty wide range of people on the Game Plan notes and everyone seems to like it, so I will definitely implement this.

***Quick Update***

We've been busy overhauling the configuration management, which should allow us to have more flexibility and ease in implementing features. We are still on track to release the Bankroll Manager feature this month. However, the Sit Out Next BB and Alarm Only functions for Auto-Break will most likely be completed in January.

I'm also going to try to add an ice-box tab on the features page with all of the features that have been requested. Hopefully I'll be able to set it up so you will be able to "vote" on a feature you want sooner than later.

I will implement by demand

Thanks,

S!K
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12-24-2010 , 03:17 PM
Two minor suggestions, both to do with configuration.

1. A 5 minute grace period at the start of a session in which the config can be changed.

Basically occasionally I mean to change something, forget, fire up the poker client (because Im thinking of poker) and hey presto, now that I remember that I wanted to change something .. I cant as its all locked out.

2. Ability to add things to autobreak on the fly.

Auto break locks out as soon as the first hand is played. i only have the stop loss enabled. Say during my game I think it would be neat to have a limit on the number of hands. There is no way to add this during play. I understand that once an option is set I shouldnt be able to change that after its locked out, but these are new options that dont violate existing settings.


Of the 2 I think the first is the most important.

Merry Christmas.
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12-24-2010 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking

I'm also going to try to add an ice-box tab on the features page with all of the features that have been requested. Hopefully I'll be able to set it up so you will be able to "vote" on a feature you want sooner than later.
That would be a really good way of doing it.
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12-27-2010 , 12:55 PM
Didn't read the whOle thread but this prOgram shOuld nOT shut yOu Out Of playing if yOu Only have the trial versiOn. This is hOrrible. I can't play fOr 3 hOurs because I accidently lOcked myself Out. I have already lOst mOre than 5x the price Of the prOgram by just using the trial?

AlsO it stOps my lOwercase "O" frOm wOrking.

EDIT:
Ok, so it only took me ~15 minutes to break through the lock down=) I managed to stop the process and uninstall the program. I don't know if there is anything you can do to stop someone determined like me.

Big tip: put a HUGE unmissable warning about what the program does, because that lock down did me much more harm than good. I might come back and try the program again because I do have tilt issues every now and then... but I wasn't prepared for the lock down thing.

Last edited by TheDarkJoker; 12-27-2010 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Got through the lock down
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12-27-2010 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkJoker
Didnt read the whOle thread but this prOgram shOuld nOT shut yOu Out Of playing if yOu Only have the trial versiOn. This is hOrrible. I can't play fOr 3 hOurs because I accidently lOcked myself Out. I have already lOst mOre than 5x the price Of the prOgram by just using the trial?

AlsO it stOps my lOwercase "O" frOm wOrking.
TB locks you out when certain criteria are met.

If the trial version did not lock you out then what would the trial version actually do?
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12-27-2010 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkJoker
but I wasn't prepared for the lock down thing.
You might want to find out what a program does BEFORE you install and run it.

TB locks you out.. thats what it does.

How can you not be prepared for that? Thats what the program does.
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12-27-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkJoker
Didn't read the whOle thread but this prOgram shOuld nOT shut yOu Out Of playing if yOu Only have the trial versiOn. This is hOrrible. I can't play fOr 3 hOurs because I accidently lOcked myself Out. I have already lOst mOre than 5x the price Of the prOgram by just using the trial?

AlsO it stOps my lOwercase "O" frOm wOrking.

EDIT:
Ok, so it only took me ~15 minutes to break through the lock down=) I managed to stop the process and uninstall the program. I don't know if there is anything you can do to stop someone determined like me.

Big tip: put a HUGE unmissable warning about what the program does, because that lock down did me much more harm than good. I might come back and try the program again because I do have tilt issues every now and then... but I wasn't prepared for the lock down thing.
Hello Dark Joker,

Sorry you lost some playing time from that accidental lockdown, but that is one of the core functions of the program. Can you please tell me how you found out about TB? I'm curious to know what information you were exposed to that did not clearly convey what the program would do.

Also, I would like the to know how you bypassed the lockdown. Could you please email it to me at support@tiltbreaker.com or PM it to me here. Posting it in public could potentially hurt other users, so please send it to me privately. I think I know what you did though, and we will be adding a fix for that.

The lower case "o" thing is interesting as well. Did you have "o" input as one of your hotkeys?

Thank you for your interest, I think you will find value in the program if you return.

S!K
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12-27-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
Two minor suggestions, both to do with configuration.

1. A 5 minute grace period at the start of a session in which the config can be changed.

Basically occasionally I mean to change something, forget, fire up the poker client (because Im thinking of poker) and hey presto, now that I remember that I wanted to change something .. I cant as its all locked out.

2. Ability to add things to autobreak on the fly.

Auto break locks out as soon as the first hand is played. i only have the stop loss enabled. Say during my game I think it would be neat to have a limit on the number of hands. There is no way to add this during play. I understand that once an option is set I shouldnt be able to change that after its locked out, but these are new options that dont violate existing settings.


Of the 2 I think the first is the most important.

Merry Christmas.
Stu,

Merry (belated) Christmas. These are two very good suggestions, thank you for sharing them.

1. I think we can change it to like 10 hands in, as opposed to 1.

2. Yeah, this is a good point. I will try to make it so that you can apply settings for any Auto-Break value that is not already enabled.

Thanks Stu, glad you like the "voting on features" idea as well. I'm going to look into some voting/polling plug-ins for the website tomorrow.

S!K
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12-30-2010 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkJoker
Didn't read the whOle thread but this prOgram shOuld nOT shut yOu Out Of playing if yOu Only have the trial versiOn. This is hOrrible. I can't play fOr 3 hOurs because I accidently lOcked myself Out. I have already lOst mOre than 5x the price Of the prOgram by just using the trial?

AlsO it stOps my lOwercase "O" frOm wOrking.

EDIT:
Ok, so it only took me ~15 minutes to break through the lock down=) I managed to stop the process and uninstall the program. I don't know if there is anything you can do to stop someone determined like me.

Big tip: put a HUGE unmissable warning about what the program does, because that lock down did me much more harm than good. I might come back and try the program again because I do have tilt issues every now and then... but I wasn't prepared for the lock down thing.
You are either a troll or a moron. Which is it?
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12-30-2010 , 12:34 PM
I talked to Dark Joker through a PM. He apologized and said he wrote that impulsively, so no worries.

S!K
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01-02-2011 , 10:23 PM


Ok, the Bankroll Manager feature is complete BUT I haven't released it yet because it needs to be beta tested by some people outside of our internal testing. If you are willing to help me test this feature, and you provide good feedback, I will sell Tilt Breaker to you for $30 (roughly a 40% discount).

Email support@tiltbreaker.com with the header "Bankroll Manager Beta" if you are interested.

thanks,

S!K
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01-04-2011 , 07:54 AM
How does the bankroll manager help in limit Holdem? Under BB I'll put $20 if my limit is 10/20??
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01-04-2011 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by schizoid
How does the bankroll manager help in limit Holdem? Under BB I'll put $20 if my limit is 10/20??
Yes, exactly.

S!K
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01-05-2011 , 05:10 PM
Think I suggested this before but any chance of having a pop-up customizable summary window. Something like the hover over summary but more options and doesn't disappear.

Thanks
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01-05-2011 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerash
Think I suggested this before but any chance of having a pop-up customizable summary window. Something like the hover over summary but more options and doesn't disappear.

Thanks
Hey Ash,

Yea I remember, and it is on the to-do list. If you want to see our user requests, please check out our uservoice forum. From there you can vote on features you like or add a new one. We will work on the most popular requests first. This will be added to our website as well.

The Bankroll Manager feature is performing very well in tests. We just have a few small control panel fixes and one bypass fix for FTP and it will be ready for public release! Oh and the timers staying on top of all windows and TB remembering where you like to place the timer and the Rage Quit button has also been added.

S!K

Last edited by suic!deking; 01-05-2011 at 09:51 PM.
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