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Old 06-03-2009, 09:52 AM   #26
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

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I don't think I can do BB VPIP, it looks like it would make the DB query much larger, and possibly take a second query for each player. However, I will add BB Fold to Steal, it's a very important stat, it's comparable to BB VPIP, and it wouldn't slow anything down. Would you be satisfied with that?
I think I could make it work with Fold to Steal and Fold to cbet. Sounds good. Let me know when a new Beta is out. How much are you planning to charge?
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:41 AM   #27
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One of the things I miss the most in Spadeeye is a ”Regulars” column. HEM table selector has this. It’s as simple as I list regulars and it tells me how many of them are at the table. Sort of a “reverse buddy list”.

Please consider this added.

Edit: And also: How do you intend to price this? A one time fee or subscription?
You can already right click on players and select "Block Player", and I have been meaning to put a "# of Blocked Players" column in the tables list, I will try to put that in the next update.

I haven't decided yet how I'm going to price it or how much I'm going to charge, but it will definitely be reasonable.

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no plo support yet?
Give me a few weeks, it is mostly done but I need to figure out how I'm gonna set it up in the GUI.

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I think I could make it work with Fold to Steal and Fold to cbet. Sounds good. Let me know when a new Beta is out. How much are you planning to charge?
Ok, great, I am trying to post a new version tonight, I've already added most of the features requested, and found/fixed a few bugs. I will post the changelog here when I release it. Thanks so much to everyone who's commented and posted suggestions.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:51 PM   #28
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

For some reason none of the players are coming up known. I have many of the players in my database, but it is not reading them. i have the database set to the default DB that I am using in HEM.
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:52 PM   #29
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It seems it doesnt work on Vista 64bit
my hem DB is active, and scanning is work but All players's stat shows NaN
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Ok, could you please let me know if this was on PokerStars? I think I've figured out the problem, there was a very obvious mistake I made which would specifically affect scanning PokerStars with HEM. Check back tomorrow or Thursday for an update/fix.
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For some reason none of the players are coming up known. I have many of the players in my database, but it is not reading them. i have the database set to the default DB that I am using in HEM.
this. stars & hem. any fix yet?
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:10 AM   #30
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

Ok, so I’ve tested a little, and here is some more feedback:

What I feel needs work:

Databases
Unless I am mistaking the program can only read from one database at a time. To me multiple databases is a must have. I know HEM only supports one DB, but PT supports multiple.

Fish Definitions/Scoring
I find you fish list a bit simple. I’m using Spadeye at the time, and though I miss many features I feel the spadeye scoring is way ahead in this point.

One thing that Spadeye does not have, and the author has said he will not add, is dependant stats. I play full ring NL and a player that runs vpip 24% and pfr 5% is more valuable than a player that runs 24/18. What was suggested for Spadeye was possibility of a rule that says something like: "+2 if players vpip > 22 and pfr % is less that 60% of vpip".

But as your program does not use table scoring in the same sense I see that this is a challenge. I hope you will consider adding table scoring to replace or in addition to your fish finder. If you do I hope you familiarize with the weaknesses Spadeye scoring has and improve on that. I’d be happy to share my thoughts on such a feature. Feel free to PM.

Things I like:
Speed is very sexy. Well done. Also the program is working well while scanning. Spadeye is freezing up on me during scan.
I also like the layout. The player details page is very nice.



So these are my thoughts. As of right now I feel that there is some development left to do, but I guess that’s why they call it beta right The reason I even cared sharing my thoughts is that I see the possibility of a great program.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:08 AM   #31
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

v0.35 Beta Released
• Added support for Multiple Active Databases
• Added Table Highlighting menu. You can choose to make open/waitlisted tables bold/italic, or highlight the tables by changing the background color, or both
• Added new Double Clicking Options
• Added Column to Tables List: # of Blocked Players
• Added Columns to Players List: BB Fold to Steal, Fold to CBet (Flop)
• Added Color Profile Support: BB Fold to Steal, Fold to CBet, and Fish Count
• Added Statistics to Fish Definitions: BB Fold to Steal, Fold to CBet
• Fixed a bug where no stats were being read when scanning PokerStars with HoldemManager
• Fixed a bug related to Joining/Leaving Waitlist on PokerStars

Visit http://www.tablescanturbo.com/ to download the update.

Thanks again to everyone who commented/gave suggestions. If I didn't get your request in this version, that doesn't mean I'm not going to do it, I just wanted to get it out quickly because of the PokerStars related bugs I fixed.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:56 AM   #32
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Ok, so I’ve tested a little, and here is some more feedback:

What I feel needs work:

Databases
Unless I am mistaking the program can only read from one database at a time. To me multiple databases is a must have. I know HEM only supports one DB, but PT supports multiple.

Fish Definitions/Scoring
I find you fish list a bit simple. I’m using Spadeye at the time, and though I miss many features I feel the spadeye scoring is way ahead in this point.

One thing that Spadeye does not have, and the author has said he will not add, is dependant stats. I play full ring NL and a player that runs vpip 24% and pfr 5% is more valuable than a player that runs 24/18. What was suggested for Spadeye was possibility of a rule that says something like: "+2 if players vpip > 22 and pfr % is less that 60% of vpip".

But as your program does not use table scoring in the same sense I see that this is a challenge. I hope you will consider adding table scoring to replace or in addition to your fish finder. If you do I hope you familiarize with the weaknesses Spadeye scoring has and improve on that. I’d be happy to share my thoughts on such a feature. Feel free to PM.

Things I like:
Speed is very sexy. Well done. Also the program is working well while scanning. Spadeye is freezing up on me during scan.
I also like the layout. The player details page is very nice.


So these are my thoughts. As of right now I feel that there is some development left to do, but I guess that’s why they call it beta right The reason I even cared sharing my thoughts is that I see the possibility of a great program.
I just added support for multiple databases in the new version (v0.35)

As far as the scoring, send me a PM with your thoughts and I'll consider it. Personally, I think I would still prefer the fish definitions, but I am not opposed to adding it, I could make it an option and I don't think it would slow down the scan at all.

Thanks!
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:00 AM   #33
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

um if i try to add a database and i get an error??
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:54 AM   #34
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

The stats for all of the players are showing now. Is there a way to have the stats like 3bet etc...show for the tables (only vpip, pfr and agfactor show), as well as a way to filter for table stats?

Also, # of blocked players is not showing up under the table for me.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:40 AM   #35
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um if i try to add a database and i get an error??
What does the error say? Maybe you aren't using the right password? What type of database are you trying to add?

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The stats for all of the players are showing now. Is there a way to have the stats like 3bet etc...show for the tables (only vpip, pfr and agfactor show), as well as a way to filter for table stats?

Also, # of blocked players is not showing up under the table for me.
Right now, the only table average columns are vpip, pfr, and af. I will try and add more in the next update.

What do you mean by "a way to filter for table stats", like filtering out tables from the list if they don't have over a certain average vpip?

Also, the # of blocked players column is not on by default, to turn it on you can either right click on a column, or go to the Configure > Advanced > Columns menu.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:17 AM   #36
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

"What do you mean by "a way to filter for table stats", like filtering out tables from the list if they don't have over a certain average vpip?"

Yes, if we only want to see a table that has a vpip over 40, for example
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:52 AM   #37
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

in v0.35 on party poker the number in the players column doesnt match the number of players listed for the table (which is probably caused by buggy party poker lobby. just dont take the number shown in the lobby but your own player count).

but good job, its getting near to perfect :-)
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:21 PM   #38
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Re: New Table Selection Software: TableScan Turbo (Open Beta)

when i click add database it has defaults filled in for me and im pretty sure theyre right. i then click get databases and it says:

New Database

An unhandled exception has occured in your application....

File or assembly name Npgsql, or one of its dependencies, was not found.

PS i skipped the step and toyed around with some other functionalities like adding limits for the filter and after every add the msg came up too (tho maybe different cause at the bottom of the msg, i didnt check)
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:50 PM   #39
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when i click add database it has defaults filled in for me and im pretty sure theyre right. i then click get databases and it says:

New Database

An unhandled exception has occured in your application....

File or assembly name Npgsql, or one of its dependencies, was not found.

PS i skipped the step and toyed around with some other functionalities like adding limits for the filter and after every add the msg came up too (tho maybe different cause at the bottom of the msg, i didnt check)
It sounds to me like maybe you accidentally downloaded the update instead of the full install, which is why you don't have the npgsql files, and when you try to add a filter it throws an exception probably because the "program files\tablescan turbo\config\" folder doesn't exist.

That's my mistake, I didn't make it clear enough which is which on the website. Could you go to the website and make sure you download the full install(the top download) and reinstall and let me know if you are still having the same problems?
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:13 AM   #40
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ok i got it working and i love ittt!!! only thing ive noticed so far. in deleting stats from the player columns WTSD and WONSD remain despite being unticked and No of tables doesnt appear. however on the individual table display no of tables does show and WTSD and WONSD dont (removed when i unticked them). weird.
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:14 AM   #41
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also would it be possible to choose number of decimal points in the vpip /pfr/af areas i really dont think neone wants 2dp for that
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:35 AM   #42
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omg im so happy with this im gonna triple post. for everyone else here r the best features:

1. multi-site scan (though spadeit dude says hes going to release this soon too, probably from competition from this)
2. feature whereby if u open a table that is full it can automatically add u to the waitlist upon opening - will save me so much clicking
3. ability to exclude regs from the display - i no longer will have drgiggy and punketty showing up multiple times in my display of 30+VPIP fish
4. a checklist of games to filter for. so u can easily check and uncheck games to switch between scanning hu tables only to scanning 6max only or both. on spadeeye before u had to manually switch it every time

questions:

1. wat sites r u planning to support in the future?
2. my decimal question above

cheers!

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Old 06-05-2009, 03:59 AM   #43
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ok i got it working and i love ittt!!! only thing ive noticed so far. in deleting stats from the player columns WTSD and WONSD remain despite being unticked and No of tables doesnt appear. however on the individual table display no of tables does show and WTSD and WONSD dont (removed when i unticked them). weird.
Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it
You are right, the WTSD/WonSD thing is a a bug, thanks for pointing it out, I will fix this in the next version. The # of tables not showing in the players list was intentional, but I will think about adding it. If I add the # of tables column to the player list, I will have to make it so it doesn't update the column till the end of the scan, as updating it continuously during the scan would definitely slow it down a bit.

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omg im so happy with this im gonna triple post. for everyone else here r the best features:

1. multi-site scan (though spadeit dude says hes going to release this soon too, probably from competition from this)
2. feature whereby if u open a table that is full it can automatically add u to the waitlist upon opening - will save me so much clicking
3. ability to exclude regs from the display - i no longer will have drgiggy and punketty showing up multiple times in my display of 30+VPIP fish
4. a checklist of games to filter for. so u can easily check and uncheck games to switch between scanning hu tables only to scanning 6max only or both. on spadeeye before u had to manually switch it every time

questions:

1. wat sites r u planning to support in the future?
2. my decimal question above

cheers!
1. I would like to support every poker site(that its technically possible). I wanted to get everything working first with the big 3 sites, but I designed the software in such a way that its very easy for me to add more sites. Any requests?
2. Yes, this should be a very simple option to add, consider it done

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Old 06-05-2009, 04:11 AM   #44
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iPoker first and foremost (I think everyone would agree with that). Not too fussed above the others though in rough order: UB, Prima/Microgaming, Ongame.

Some more suggestions:

- can we have the ding sound so we know the scan is finished
- can we have % coverage like for spadeeye
- could you include the symbol of the site as an extra column in the players columns?
- could we have in player filter, filter by stacksize (to get rid of shortstacks)
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:33 AM   #45
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iPoker first and foremost (I think everyone would agree with that). Not too fussed above the others though in rough order: UB, Prima/Microgaming, Ongame.

Some more suggestions:

- can we have the ding sound so we know the scan is finished
- can we have % coverage like for spadeeye
- could you include the symbol of the site as an extra column in the players columns?
- could we have in player filter, filter by stacksize (to get rid of shortstacks)
Ok, I will try to get iPoker supported in the next week or two.

For the other suggestions
- Yes, I will add an option to play a sound when the scan is finished
- % coverage - Please elaborate, I don't know what you mean
- site column icon in player list - I will look into this but I do not know if I can do it. What I could do pretty easily is add a text column that shows an abbreviation (e.g. "FT", "PS", "PP", etc)
- filter by stack size - Yes, that is a good idea, I will add it
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:42 AM   #46
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in v0.35 on party poker the number in the players column doesnt match the number of players listed for the table (which is probably caused by buggy party poker lobby. just dont take the number shown in the lobby but your own player count).

but good job, its getting near to perfect :-)
Thanks, I will look into this. Also, I haven't forgotten about your other request (systray popup), and I was wondering are you still having the problem with the "show player info dialog" moving to the top left of the screen? If so, could you tell me how to reproduce it as I have not been able to.

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"What do you mean by "a way to filter for table stats", like filtering out tables from the list if they don't have over a certain average vpip?"

Yes, if we only want to see a table that has a vpip over 40, for example
Ok, thanks, thats a good idea, I will try to add this soon.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:48 AM   #47
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yeah FT/PS/PP/IK etc instead of icons is fine its just cool knowing which site ur about to open.

on spadeeye after a scan it tells u how many of the players playing are 'known players' i.e. meet a minimum number of hands.
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yeah FT/PS/PP/IK etc instead of icons is fine its just cool knowing which site ur about to open.

on spadeeye after a scan it tells u how many of the players playing are 'known players' i.e. meet a minimum number of hands.
Ok, if you hover your mouse over the "Players" label in the "Status" Panel at the bottom right of the screen, it will pop up a tooltip showing the known players info, I have been meaning to make this more prominent.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:42 PM   #49
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can you add a filter for the micro stakes? 2NL and 5NL please?

Edit: I just used it and filtered by my open tables. This is very nice OP. It is incredibly fast and has built in ratings for fish. I am very very impressed. Do you know how much this will retail for? I play microstakes so I don't have a huge budget, but I REALLY want to buy this. EXCELLENT job.
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can you add a filter for the micro stakes? 2NL and 5NL please?

Edit: I just used it and filtered by my open tables. This is very nice OP. It is incredibly fast and has built in ratings for fish. I am very very impressed. Do you know how much this will retail for? I play microstakes so I don't have a huge budget, but I REALLY want to buy this. EXCELLENT job.
Thanks, I will add 2nl and 5nl to the filters in the next update. I haven't decided how I'm going to price it yet but I am thinking I will probably have a small-stakes version.
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