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07-14-2009 , 09:51 AM
[QUOTE=theBUB;11838837]Quick Question:

When I run the scan without any tables open or any HUD/hand importing going on, the scan runs fine, but when I'm in the trenches multi-tabling with other programs running, the scan fails to scan completely. It will usually scan about half of the tables or less. Is there a way for me to correct this?

Thanks! I would definitely buy this program if I can get around this issue.

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Originally Posted by damienthierry
Is it better that Hold'em Manager table scanner ?
There are pros and cons to both software's. HEM was in beta but looks like they finally launched the official release but you can use it during the 15 day trial and TableScan is still in beta and currently free. If you can try them both and see which you prefer.
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07-14-2009 , 10:25 AM
I'm having a problem at Full Tilt... I scan for the tables, then I right-click and Join the waiting list... TST scrolls to that table, but I'm not added to the waiting list, there is still the "Add me to waiting list" button in the full tilt software.

Another thing is that TST seems not to connect with my PT3 DB, everything seems to be setup right, but TST gets no data out of the PT3 DB.

I'm using Windows Vista 64Bit on my desktop and Windows XP 32 bit on my laptop. Problems occur on both systems.
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07-14-2009 , 11:13 AM
Man what is with the scrolling, it forces FTP to the front, which really sucks if you're trying to play some hands.
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07-14-2009 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by theBUB
Quick Question:

When I run the scan without any tables open or any HUD/hand importing going on, the scan runs fine, but when I'm in the trenches multi-tabling with other programs running, the scan fails to scan completely. It will usually scan about half of the tables or less. Is there a way for me to correct this?

Thanks! I would definitely buy this program if I can get around this issue.
Can you try and adjust the Full Tilt scroll speed and see if that has any effect (Configure > Advanced Settings > Poker Clients) If you don't see this option then re-download v0.39 from the website. Otherwise, it happens sometimes that tablescan has a table selected that is lets say 6/6 with 1 on the waiting list, and it changes to 6/6 with 0 on the waiting list and full tilt will move it down the list, which will cause it to skip the tables in between. I could add a feature like "double pass" so it goes back to the top and tries again at the end, or the other way to get around it manually is to just sort the tables by "Table Name" in the full tilt lobby, but this does seem to slow down the scan a little
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07-14-2009 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by olator
I also have a problem it seems that when i double click on a table it doesnt add me to the waiting list ( i use the option : double click : open table if not full, add to waiting list if full)
Does it ever get on the waiting list sucessfully? Joining the waiting list is not perfect yet, sometimes it tries to click the button too early before the client has displayed it, I will improve it in the next version

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Originally Posted by BiBA
I'm having a problem at Full Tilt... I scan for the tables, then I right-click and Join the waiting list... TST scrolls to that table, but I'm not added to the waiting list, there is still the "Add me to waiting list" button in the full tilt software.

Another thing is that TST seems not to connect with my PT3 DB, everything seems to be setup right, but TST gets no data out of the PT3 DB.

I'm using Windows Vista 64Bit on my desktop and Windows XP 32 bit on my laptop. Problems occur on both systems.
If you go to "manage databases" and select your pt3 database and choose "edit database", you will see a checkbox called "Scan results from player cache only". You should probably uncheck this option and you will see all the stats, or you could go to your PT3 software and update your player cache.
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07-14-2009 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by beaster
Man what is with the scrolling, it forces FTP to the front, which really sucks if you're trying to play some hands.
Yes, there is an option to move the lobby off screen during hands in the Configure > Advanced Settings > Poker Sites menu. But unfortunately as you know full tilt did a huge update and can now only be scanned using OCR, and I have not found a way yet for the new full tilt update to accept keyboard/mouse input without the lobby stealing focus from the tables, I am trying
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07-14-2009 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by akvsaq
I never had a problem BEFORE using Poker Shortcuts. Poker Shortcuts REQUIRE cleartype to be on. I guess that is the problem of why i had multiple problems consistently and tilting the hell out of me.

Doesn't TableScan automatically turn cleartype back on when it's done scanning? I guess I just can't use Poker Shortcuts while I'm scanning? this would be a pain in the ass.

I really hope you can solve this problem. Poker Shortcuts is used by so many people.
Well, I can try to write a cleartype OCR at some point in the near future, but I'm guessing he will probably get a lot of complaints as well because the majority of people don't use cleartype and really hate it

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Originally Posted by akvsaq
OK. I see what the problem is now and i also understand why you sounded confused. Yes, I just found the option to remove "Poker Site Icon" from the "Players List" under the "Columns" tab. The reason why I THOUGHT there was no option to remove it was because I simply right-click the tabs to add/remove lists. (in which case there is no option to remove "poker site icon" for the "players" list. there IS the option for the "tables" list but NOT the "players" list.)
Yes, thanks for pointing this out this was a mistake
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07-14-2009 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zandry
Can you try and adjust the Full Tilt scroll speed and see if that has any effect (Configure > Advanced Settings > Poker Clients) If you don't see this option then re-download v0.39 from the website. Otherwise, it happens sometimes that tablescan has a table selected that is lets say 6/6 with 1 on the waiting list, and it changes to 6/6 with 0 on the waiting list and full tilt will move it down the list, which will cause it to skip the tables in between. I could add a feature like "double pass" so it goes back to the top and tries again at the end, or the other way to get around it manually is to just sort the tables by "Table Name" in the full tilt lobby, but this does seem to slow down the scan a little
Sorry Zandry, I don't think I was clear enough in my original description. I am playing only on Pokerstars. I have the tables sorted by "table name" in increasing ascending order. My problem is not that tables get "missed" during the scan. My problem is that sometime during the scan(it is always at different times) when I have a lot of tables and programs running, turboscan will alert me with the sound that scanning is done, even though it has not yet scanned through all the tables.
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07-14-2009 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by theBUB
Sorry Zandry, I don't think I was clear enough in my original description. I am playing only on Pokerstars. I have the tables sorted by "table name" in increasing ascending order. My problem is not that tables get "missed" during the scan. My problem is that sometime during the scan(it is always at different times) when I have a lot of tables and programs running, turboscan will alert me with the sound that scanning is done, even though it has not yet scanned through all the tables.
Ok, are you saying that it just stops in the middle of the list? Well, that is something I could fix/improve pretty easily, could you try one thing first and let me know if it helps, enable the "Configure > Advanced Settings > Performance > Give TableScan threads Highest Priority" option
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07-14-2009 , 04:28 PM
Hey Zandry,

thank you for this hint, now TST is getting correct info from my database!
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07-14-2009 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by theBUB
Sorry Zandry, I don't think I was clear enough in my original description. I am playing only on Pokerstars. I have the tables sorted by "table name" in increasing ascending order. My problem is not that tables get "missed" during the scan. My problem is that sometime during the scan(it is always at different times) when I have a lot of tables and programs running, turboscan will alert me with the sound that scanning is done, even though it has not yet scanned through all the tables.
Zandry, I wrote earlier that this program is buggy at times. THIS is PRECISELY what I'm talking about and I play at Full Tilt. I will try checking the "Give TableScan threads highest priority" option and will let u know if that helps. I'm using vista 64 bit and running Holdem Manager, TableScan Turbo, and Poker Shortcuts, if that helps.
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07-14-2009 , 04:43 PM
I get this a lot on UB too.

There can be like 15 tables and sometimes I run the scan and it returns 3. I do it again and it returns them all.

I mean this happens even when I only have 2 tables running, and not much open.
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07-14-2009 , 06:13 PM
Can we get a pause button? Sometimes scanning messes with Poker Shortcuts and I have to stop the scan so I can play my hands.
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07-14-2009 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zandry
Ok, are you saying that it just stops in the middle of the list? Well, that is something I could fix/improve pretty easily, could you try one thing first and let me know if it helps, enable the "Configure > Advanced Settings > Performance > Give TableScan threads Highest Priority" option
Zandry,

I figured out my problem. If I hit the "spacebar" while scanning, then the spacebar is a hotkey to stop the scanning. For me, it is also a hotkey to fold a hand. That is why I kept getting stoppages of scanning. It is otherwise running fine. One small bug I keep getting is that when selection speed is set to fastest, sometimes duplicate statistics will be shown for several tables. However it's not a big problem as if I use the fast selection, the problem does not persist. Thanks for your help.
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07-14-2009 , 09:58 PM
I get the following popup several times once in a while:

Exception thrown in destructor
(f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\filecor e.cpp:111)
an unnamed file was not found.

[there should be no space between the "r" and "e" in "filecore". for some reason i can't edit it.]

-Also, I've tried going to Advanced Settings --> Performance to tick the "give tablescan threads highest priority" and that changed nothing. The problem i get is at times it will start the scan and abruptly stop and finish OR start the scan and finish half way. Once in a while it does scan everything normally but it takes a couple tries. Also, i make sure NOT to use hotkeys for PokerShortcuts DURING the scan and it STILL gives me problems.

-Additionally I get "TableScan.exe has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available." Since happens just fairly frequently as well.

-again i use vista x64, PokerShortcuts, Holdem Manager, no other software other than itunes or some other media player, oh and a logitech vx revolution that is mapped with hotkeys but i make sure to only use the "left-mouse click" button during the scan.

Last edited by akvsaq; 07-14-2009 at 10:16 PM.
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07-15-2009 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkSandwich
I get this a lot on UB too.

There can be like 15 tables and sometimes I run the scan and it returns 3. I do it again and it returns them all.

I mean this happens even when I only have 2 tables running, and not much open.
I will try and reproduce this, I wouldn't think this would happen on UB, is it happening frequently?
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07-15-2009 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by theBUB
Zandry,

I figured out my problem. If I hit the "spacebar" while scanning, then the spacebar is a hotkey to stop the scanning. For me, it is also a hotkey to fold a hand. That is why I kept getting stoppages of scanning. It is otherwise running fine. One small bug I keep getting is that when selection speed is set to fastest, sometimes duplicate statistics will be shown for several tables. However it's not a big problem as if I use the fast selection, the problem does not persist. Thanks for your help.
Ok, that's good to know If you click outside of the window after clicking "Scan Tables" or click in one of the lists, you will not have that spacebar issue. As far as the selection speed, as you said, it is designed that way, some people will get better results using "fast"
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07-15-2009 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
Can we get a pause button? Sometimes scanning messes with Poker Shortcuts and I have to stop the scan so I can play my hands.
I don't know if I like this option, it seems like by the time you resume the scan half the tables would be old and you'd be better off just rescanning. How does it mess it up, is it because the lobby is stealing focus?
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07-15-2009 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by akvsaq
I get the following popup several times once in a while:

Exception thrown in destructor
(f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\filecor e.cpp:111)
an unnamed file was not found.

[there should be no space between the "r" and "e" in "filecore". for some reason i can't edit it.]

-Also, I've tried going to Advanced Settings --> Performance to tick the "give tablescan threads highest priority" and that changed nothing. The problem i get is at times it will start the scan and abruptly stop and finish OR start the scan and finish half way. Once in a while it does scan everything normally but it takes a couple tries. Also, i make sure NOT to use hotkeys for PokerShortcuts DURING the scan and it STILL gives me problems.

-Additionally I get "TableScan.exe has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available." Since happens just fairly frequently as well.

-again i use vista x64, PokerShortcuts, Holdem Manager, no other software other than itunes or some other media player, oh and a logitech vx revolution that is mapped with hotkeys but i make sure to only use the "left-mouse click" button during the scan.
From searching google the filecore error seems to be associated with holdemmanager, I would be very surprised if it had anything to do with tablescan. Could you download .NET 1.1 off my website and install it? That way it should no longer give you those "has stopped working errors" and it should instead give you a more detailed "continue/quit" style error that you can PM/email to me. Also, I know that choosing "run as administrator" has fixed a number of problems for vista users, could you try that? And if you have AIM/MSN please send me a message and I can try to troubleshoot:
AIM: ZandryTST
MSN: zandry@tablescanturbo.com
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07-15-2009 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Zandry
I don't know if I like this option, it seems like by the time you resume the scan half the tables would be old and you'd be better off just rescanning. How does it mess it up, is it because the lobby is stealing focus?
Yes, focus stealing is the problem. I need to try moving the lobby again.
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07-15-2009 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zandry
I will try and reproduce this, I wouldn't think this would happen on UB, is it happening frequently?
Fairly frequently. If I run a dozen scans in a session (I run them all manually) it usually happens once or twice.

On UB, focus stealing is also an issue for me (I don't know if it should happen here?). That's why I run manual scans. To clarify, I can click a button (like Fold/Raise/etc) because it only steals focus for a split second every couple of seconds (per each table scan). But if I want to type a number into the Bet box I can't because the focus is grabbed while I'm doing it. Notes etc. are of course completely impossible.
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07-15-2009 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkSandwich
Fairly frequently. If I run a dozen scans in a session (I run them all manually) it usually happens once or twice.

On UB, focus stealing is also an issue for me (I don't know if it should happen here?). That's why I run manual scans. To clarify, I can click a button (like Fold/Raise/etc) because it only steals focus for a split second every couple of seconds (per each table scan). But if I want to type a number into the Bet box I can't because the focus is grabbed while I'm doing it. Notes etc. are of course completely impossible.
Alright, I will try to see if i can reproduce that. Unfortunately UB/AP will not load the player list without having focus, but I've been trying a lot of stuff to get the FTP lobby to not need focus(not successfully yet) so I have a few new ideas I wan't to try on UB
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07-16-2009 , 05:49 PM
I've used TableScan daily now and basically, about 75%+ of the time when i run a scan, it will complete prematurely and show no tables, scan half or fewer tables and finish, and very seldom i'll get a complete scan with no problem.

Scanning and finishing prematurely and getting NO tables to list is the most common problem. I really hope you can fix this. I love this program if you can get it to work but it doesn't scan properly the vast majority of the time.
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07-16-2009 , 06:38 PM
My only problem with the software is the focus stealing... it will also randomly change my bet sizes while scanning. Fix this and I'll ship payment the next day.
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07-16-2009 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel1941
I have a problem ... I define shortstack as person with less then 40BB ... but your program find almost everyone as shortstack

So in NL10 table where at list 6 people have over 80BB your program find 9 shortstacks
same problem here at Stars , with ft everything is fine, the only thing I can't join waitlist automatically at fulltilt.

OS: German WinXP + PT3
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