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08-26-2009 , 12:43 PM
can someone recommend a decent deck that is compatible with the pot betting features.
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08-26-2009 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Hmm, I also have a logitech mouse (different model I have the MX Laser) and my middle button works fine, although it also is a bit tough to press properly.

Are you running any logitech software that allows you to customize your scroll wheel or anything? Are you running any AHKs that use your scroll wheel or middle button?

Is your cursor directly over the text field where you enter your hotkey when you are hitting the middle button? Are you having any trouble assigning your right mouse button or the X1/X2 mouse buttons (the ones for your thumb) to hotkeys?

Let me know,

Thanks

Tarath
Hey I setup TNFT to run in vista SP2 compatibility mode and was able to set my right click button as a hotkey but it will not let me setup any of the rest of my mouse keys to be set as a hotkey. I have logitech mx revolution and am running logitech's setpoint vs 4.72.40. I am updating the setpoint software and will let you know if that helps. I am also not running any AHK scripts.
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08-26-2009 , 07:06 PM
I am now upgraded to setpoint 4.80.103 and it did not fix the button issue. The buttons work fine in other windows but TN will not let me assign them.

It appears that if I disable setpoint it allows me to assign them. Guess there is probably no fix to this but is there any clue why this is happening?
This should also help anwser the question from the user above that was using a logitech mouse, which i believe was the MX.

Last edited by #1ThunderFan; 08-26-2009 at 07:08 PM. Reason: more info
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08-26-2009 , 08:22 PM
This software is great. I have to push the hotkey twice before the bets will show up in the betting box. On another computer yesterday, it worked fast without having to click on the table. I have "table in foreground" checked. How can I get TableNijaFT to single click for the preflop and postflop betting?
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08-26-2009 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by terance
Tarath: would it help if a group of players raised a money pool for certain features ?
This might be an option in the future. Since we are focusing on TN for PS for the next two updates I think at this point in time we just want to wait and see how many people decide to start using TNFT and then we'll make a decision a few months from now.

No matter what happens we'll probably give you guys at least a bit more in the way of features for free.

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Originally Posted by lien
yes. after atached the chat it is working. thx!
Awesome, glad we got that working. Beach_Bum really gets the credit for figuring out the issue

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Originally Posted by #1ThunderFan
Hey I setup TNFT to run in vista SP2 compatibility mode and was able to set my right click button as a hotkey but it will not let me setup any of the rest of my mouse keys to be set as a hotkey. I have logitech mx revolution and am running logitech's setpoint vs 4.72.40. I am updating the setpoint software and will let you know if that helps. I am also not running any AHK scripts.
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Originally Posted by #1ThunderFan
I am now upgraded to setpoint 4.80.103 and it did not fix the button issue. The buttons work fine in other windows but TN will not let me assign them.

It appears that if I disable setpoint it allows me to assign them. Guess there is probably no fix to this but is there any clue why this is happening?
This should also help anwser the question from the user above that was using a logitech mouse, which i believe was the MX.
My guess is that they are reading your mouse input at a low level and then passing it on to other windows as needed.

Some quick googling found this. http://nendowingsmirai.yuku.com/topic/6086

Can you try changing your "Scroll wheel press" to "middle mouse button" and seeing how it goes?

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Originally Posted by JROK777
This software is great. I have to push the hotkey twice before the bets will show up in the betting box. On another computer yesterday, it worked fast without having to click on the table. I have "table in foreground" checked. How can I get TableNijaFT to single click for the preflop and postflop betting?
Hmm, I've never heard of this problem before so I am not 100% sure what could be going on.

Do you have "Display Table on Action" turned on in Full Tilt under options?

Let me know,

Thanks guys.

Tarath
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08-27-2009 , 02:50 AM
This is so nice to have pot betting for FT again. I shipped you $30 on FT. It's well worth the $. The auto time bank feature alone would have saved me $800+ last month in lost equity. Hope 2p2ers aren't cheap and step up and support you.
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08-27-2009 , 05:23 AM
Hi Tarath,

the performance of filling the betbox is too slow sometimes. I can actually see how the betbox gets erased and the new value is input. If I hit the hotkey in that time the action is not recognized so I have to hit it again.

But the performance fluctuates. Sometimes it's very fast, sometimes it's enough to wait a splitsecond longer before hitting the key and sometimes it's so slow that it actually slows me down and I have trouble keeping up with decisions on all the tables. I'm talking about certain periods of time not between hands.

Unfortunately I can't say what's causing this. My thought is that the full tilt software might cause this performance variation, because sometimes the software needs a restart so that the "jump to current table" hotkey would function again. Twice I even had the FT software completely shut down after hitting a hotkey.

My system: Core2Duo 2300 Mhz, Win 7 RC, Aero, HEM, Multitabling ~12 tables

Any thoughts on what might cause this?
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08-27-2009 , 05:36 AM
This is an interesting time for FT players.

Pokershortcuts is damaged goods and not likely to be fully functioning anytime soon and the TN product is a couple of months down the road.

If I were a marketing man I'd reckon that there's an enormous market opportunity to the right company with the right product.

Agreed?
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08-27-2009 , 10:20 AM
So just so I'm sure. By the way tn is describing it in the general tab, it will only auto click timebank for tables in foreground? So if we're stacking then time bank won't be activated for tables in background waiting for action? And it doesn't do one click registering?
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08-27-2009 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tarath
My guess is that they are reading your mouse input at a low level and then passing it on to other windows as needed.

Some quick googling found this. http://nendowingsmirai.yuku.com/topic/6086

Can you try changing your "Scroll wheel press" to "middle mouse button" and seeing how it goes?
The problem is not just with the middle scroll button. It also includes the side buttons as well. Alternatively, if I turn the setpoint software off it appears to work fine so it must be setpoint messing up with the input mechanism.
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08-27-2009 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RagzToRiches
So just so I'm sure. By the way tn is describing it in the general tab, it will only auto click timebank for tables in foreground? So if we're stacking then time bank won't be activated for tables in background waiting for action? And it doesn't do one click registering?
It will click the time bank on the background tables only if you use Aero on Vista or Win7.

No one click registering yet.
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08-27-2009 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JROK777
This is so nice to have pot betting for FT again. I shipped you $30 on FT. It's well worth the $. The auto time bank feature alone would have saved me $800+ last month in lost equity. Hope 2p2ers aren't cheap and step up and support you.
Thanks so much for your support, I really appreciate it and I'm glad you like the program

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Originally Posted by Beave
Hi Tarath,

the performance of filling the betbox is too slow sometimes. I can actually see how the betbox gets erased and the new value is input. If I hit the hotkey in that time the action is not recognized so I have to hit it again.

But the performance fluctuates. Sometimes it's very fast, sometimes it's enough to wait a splitsecond longer before hitting the key and sometimes it's so slow that it actually slows me down and I have trouble keeping up with decisions on all the tables. I'm talking about certain periods of time not between hands.

Unfortunately I can't say what's causing this. My thought is that the full tilt software might cause this performance variation, because sometimes the software needs a restart so that the "jump to current table" hotkey would function again. Twice I even had the FT software completely shut down after hitting a hotkey.

My system: Core2Duo 2300 Mhz, Win 7 RC, Aero, HEM, Multitabling ~12 tables

Any thoughts on what might cause this?
Hmm, I'd need to see your TNFTLog file to say for sure, I've never heard of a performance issue before with TNFT. Does FT ever have significant performance variations for you without TNFT running?

You are not playing all that many tables so unless you have a really weak graphics card I can't really imagine what could be causing this.

Anyways, if you want to email your TNFTLog file and your TNFTConfigAutoLoad file from your TNFT install directory to support@alxsoftware.com I will take a look and try and figure out whats going on.

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Originally Posted by RagzToRiches
So just so I'm sure. By the way tn is describing it in the general tab, it will only auto click timebank for tables in foreground? So if we're stacking then time bank won't be activated for tables in background waiting for action? And it doesn't do one click registering?

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Originally Posted by Beave
It will click the time bank on the background tables only if you use Aero on Vista or Win7.

No one click registering yet.
This is exactly right if you are stacking or cascading.

If you are tiling it will click timebanks even in non-aero on all your tables any time you switch which table you are targetting or any time you use the "Click Timebanks" hotkey.


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Originally Posted by #1ThunderFan
The problem is not just with the middle scroll button. It also includes the side buttons as well. Alternatively, if I turn the setpoint software off it appears to work fine so it must be setpoint messing up with the input mechanism.
Ok I will look into this further and see if I can find out what exactly setpoint is doing. Thanks for your help in figuring this issue out.

I'm not sure if we will be able to work around setpoint or not.

Tarath
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08-27-2009 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Ok I will look into this further and see if I can find out what exactly setpoint is doing. Thanks for your help in figuring this issue out.

I'm not sure if we will be able to work around setpoint or not.

Tarath
Thank you. I am not expecting you to be able to work out an issue with an outside source problem, although it would be nice . I will try disabling and try using the software without it and see if it causes any problems or lack of capabilities.
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08-27-2009 , 05:36 PM
For some reason, as soon as I play a seventh table, I have problems with it. The first six work fine, but the seventh won't allow me to make a bet that isn't a shove (F4). I can check, call, fold or shove, but not lead out for any other value. Obviously, this is not ideal.

Suggestions? I haven't tried playing eight tables yet, as when I noticed the glitch at seven I capped it there, so I don't know if the problem lies with all additional tables after seven, or just with the seventh alone
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08-27-2009 , 05:57 PM
Hi

Thanks for this software !

I will like to know if I can use the ctrl + (M)Right as a hotkey

for some reason I can't use ctrl + mouse button
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08-27-2009 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PreacherCasy151
For some reason, as soon as I play a seventh table, I have problems with it. The first six work fine, but the seventh won't allow me to make a bet that isn't a shove (F4). I can check, call, fold or shove, but not lead out for any other value. Obviously, this is not ideal.

Suggestions? I haven't tried playing eight tables yet, as when I noticed the glitch at seven I capped it there, so I don't know if the problem lies with all additional tables after seven, or just with the seventh alone
This is very strange, we definitely have many people playing far more than 7 tables and I've never heard of this problem before so I'm not entirely sure what could be causing this problem.

Is it possible that your table layout changes when you have more than 7 (the sizes change, your HUD placement changes, tables start overlapping etc)

Are you using any scripts or table mods?

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Originally Posted by Eric Poker
Hi

Thanks for this software !

I will like to know if I can use the ctrl + (M)Right as a hotkey

for some reason I can't use ctrl + mouse button
Glad you like the program

Unfortunately you cannot assign combinations of keyboard and mouse buttons to a hotkey. You can do mouse button combos with X1 and X2 so you can do X1+ (M)Right.

Sorry,

Tarath
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08-27-2009 , 08:09 PM
I see

I think I will use a little ahk script then

^RButton::
Send {NumpadMult}
Return

Thank you
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08-27-2009 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Poker
I see

I think I will use a little ahk script then

^RButton::
Send {NumpadMult}
Return

Thank you
That should work

Tarath
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08-27-2009 , 08:41 PM
Will gladly pay/donate for this software if I know it is being actively worked on.
The fixed bet features, as well as general response of the program (+ not stealing focus from other programs) is so smooth and attractive however I can't really make the switch from PSC to TN without some of those features.

The main features I'd need are;
* HUD displaying my stack in BBs like PSC (as well as mouse-over for villains)
* Various SnG features (i'm back, i'm ready, one click register, auto close sngs without register button, auto close completed sngs)

If TN had these options I would quickly pay top dollar. I am really hoping you guys can do this sometime soon.
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08-27-2009 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SiQ
Will gladly pay/donate for this software if I know it is being actively worked on.
The fixed bet features, as well as general response of the program (+ not stealing focus from other programs) is so smooth and attractive however I can't really make the switch from PSC to TN without some of those features.

The main features I'd need are;
* HUD displaying my stack in BBs like PSC (as well as mouse-over for villains)
* Various SnG features (i'm back, i'm ready, one click register, auto close sngs without register button, auto close completed sngs)

If TN had these options I would quickly pay top dollar. I am really hoping you guys can do this sometime soon.
As you are probably aware TableNinja for Stars does pretty much all of these things + a lot more, (the BB display is coming soon) so I think if there is enough support for a full featured full tilt version these are probably all things you can expect to see

Tarath
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08-28-2009 , 12:05 AM
Great work here Tarath!

I'm responding to a post from the Mods section where you describe the location that TN looks for pure white pixels on the community cards, to determine the street.

while it is possible to mod decks specifically to accommodate the current coordinates,



i was wondering if there is any way to get the program to scrape a larger area so that the white pip could be made less noticeable - ideally maybe 2pixel squared - or better yet if it could look closer to the perimeter of the card so that mods similar to this one would comply

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08-28-2009 , 12:11 AM
Any pokershortcuts users here?
What do you think, is tableninja better? Specifically for 12 tabling
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08-28-2009 , 02:28 AM
This software works faster than FTS used to. It doesn't have all the functions yet, but it has the ones that matter most for a multitabler.
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08-28-2009 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by murderturtle
Any pokershortcuts users here?
What do you think, is tableninja better? Specifically for 12 tabling
Much better. Poker Shortcuts is really messed up for me. Like others itt, I also have the bet pot on every street problem. Increasing or decreasing with the mouse wheel works, though.

Haven't tried twelve tables, but nine and six are fine.
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08-28-2009 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
Great work here Tarath!

I'm responding to a post from the Mods section where you describe the location that TN looks for pure white pixels on the community cards, to determine the street.

while it is possible to mod decks specifically to accommodate the current coordinates,



i was wondering if there is any way to get the program to scrape a larger area so that the white pip could be made less noticeable - ideally maybe 2pixel squared - or better yet if it could look closer to the perimeter of the card so that mods similar to this one would comply

+1
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