Any chance you could add the sit n go opening/closing & managing features included in the Pokerstars version? I'd gladly pay money for that.

I haven't tried out TNFT yet, but my guess would be you are using modified action buttons?

If so, and you need to restore a portion of the default FTP graphics, you can use my selective graphics restore package.

FTPSelectiveRestore.exe

thx for sharing, but I really dont know what to switch and I also dont want to lose my card and table decks

Well, you should have those backed up elsewhere. You can also copy your full tilt\graphics folder to be sure you got a copy.

For my restore package, you can choose which items to restore. Just pick the action buttons and it wont touch your other modded images.

I tried using TNFT on windows 7 with just about every possible portion of FT modded and it seemed to be working fine. I tried most everything I could but didnt extensively test the pot% hotkeys. They, from what I remembered did seem to work just fine. If I remember correctly though I did change my modded bet buttons back to the originals. I dont see why this would mess with the % being entered into the bet box though.
It is worth a try to see if it can be fixed though. Just backup your newtable folder in the graphics folder and do the selective restore Fozzy mentioned and see if it fixes the problem. If it does you know it is because a certain mod you have used and can selectively rule out which one is causing the malfunction. If it is not then you can put your mods right back into use, and know that it is some other function of the program that is giving you problems and you can then begin the trouble shooting process with their support team.

Since the program is free the check is mainly to check your version and notify you of updates. When a new version is available a popup will tell you that at start and it will also warn you of potential problems with the old version you may be running.

We found doing this dramatically reduced the amount of customer service work I have to do because no one used to update and then PokerStars would make a software change and I would get hundreds of emails from people asking why things didn't work for a period of several months.

I too love the aero theme, its so much nicer to look at, and I have a nice graphics card so aero lets my graphics card pitch in and everything runs way faster I'm glad I'm not alone in my Aero love.

I can't make any promises, but if we reach a point where were we are waiting on something for the Stars version, releasing a quick fix for custom mods definitely might happen.

Thanks, glad things are working. I haven't done as much Win7 testing with TableNinjaFT so this is good to hear.

The one windows 7 issue we are aware of is that assigning hotkeys to mouse buttons may not work. To work around this you can run the program in compatibility mode for Vista SP2 and everything should work 100%

We've had 3 people report variations of this problem and it always went away when AHK was turned off and rebooted as it did for you at first. I don't know why the problem would return and we're definitely looking into it. TableNinjaFT should work on XP for tilers, I recommended upgrading before to ixmike because for stackers/cascaders who need the time bank feature they really need aero so that we can detect the timebank on background tables.

We are trying to determine the cause of this issue on XP and you everything except time bank *should* work on an XP system and does for most people but there is obviously some kind of bug we haven't yet isolated and fixed that is affecting some people.

This is definitely on the todo list, its very confusing currently you are right.

Excellent, let me know if you have any additional questions.

Thanks guys,

Tarath

tarath got a quick answer to why the default pot % bets are always on 100% for me?

Sorry I thought others had helped you with this, I didn't mean to ignore you.

This is almost always either that you need to turn animations off in FTP (Options --> Animations --> Off in main lobby) or else that you are using a card mod that is not currently supported.

Hope this helps,

Tarath

will this work with my logitch controler?

You will need to use a third party app such as Xpadder or JoyToKey to convert your gamepad input into keyboard input.

Once you've done that just assign those keyboard keys to hotkeys in TableNinja and everything should work.

Thanks

Tarath

Tarath: do you really think that too few people are gonna buy the program in order for it to be worth while ?

I think you missed the part about him receiving hundres of emails after the server went down for a second....

out source to india ?

Anyway, alot of the people who buy tableninjaft will already be tableninja customers. Which reduces support some at least.

Unfortunately I would say its very unclear that there is enough support unless we could make our program popular enough that we could get more users than existing similar programs on FTP.

Hah no I said I used to get hundreds of emails (over the course of months) from people who never update the program and then have problems when Stars updated. I only got a handful emails when the server went down, we do not have anywhere near that number of users.

Thats definitely true and is something I will keep in mind.

Tarath

I have a Logitech VX revolution mouse and I can not get TNFT to recognize my middle scroll wheel button (when pressed down). It can sometimes be a little tricky to properly press, but it works for the most part in all my other applications.

Hmm, I also have a logitech mouse (different model I have the MX Laser) and my middle button works fine, although it also is a bit tough to press properly.

Are you running any logitech software that allows you to customize your scroll wheel or anything? Are you running any AHKs that use your scroll wheel or middle button?

Is your cursor directly over the text field where you enter your hotkey when you are hitting the middle button? Are you having any trouble assigning your right mouse button or the X1/X2 mouse buttons (the ones for your thumb) to hotkeys?

Let me know,

Thanks

Tarath

TableNinjaFT is the only program that is really functioning after the update.. no ?

Ahhh well that anwsers one of my suggestions which was going to be the ability to assign mouse keys to hotkeys. What is the fun of having a fancy mouse with all these buttons when I can use them. I see what my problem was now. That is the problem with having a Research candidate as your main operating system. You are at the mercy of the fact that it is in retail yet and thus not widely used yet.
I tested more thoroughly tonight again using W7 and many mods. I have the original buttons so that should be one of the things that are still original.

Everything went very excellent. Very easy and simple to use and all the features seemed to work great. I have not tested the layout manager as I manage my layouts through FTP and wasnt sure how TNFT's layout manager functioned yet but I will try and give that a god sometime. Everything else worked perfectly including all the pot% hot keys. I did everything I could to make sure everything was working correctly and it all appears fine. I believe my mouse buttons can be assigned a specific key so I will either try that method or the compatibility method suggested by you to see it I can get my mouse up and running.
Thanks for all the hardwork and if there is anything specific to W7 you wish me to test the shoot me a pm and I will test it out.

Suggestions for future development if you go that way:

Auto post clicker. Would be lovely to not have to click auto post everytime.

Sit out all tables. Would be nice to hit a key and sit out all my tables for bathroom breaks and break in general.

Autoclose all tables or just a handler for the close pop ups. Would be a nice addition.

That is all I have so far. If you dont use any of them you will still be hands down above all the compition IMO. Very nice job.

I think this in generally true.

I'm very hopefully optimistic that there's plenty of demand and we'd definitely like to give you guys a great program and dedicate a lot of time to the program. Once we have our next two major stars updates done we should be able to see how many people have visited our website and downloaded the program and know exactly how much interest there is.


I actually just find a work around for mouse hotkeys on Windows 7. I posted instructions for it on the TableNinja thread so I'll just paste here:

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For those of you having problems with mouse hotkeys in Windows 7 we have found a work around. We are still hoping to solve this problem more thoroughly but in the mean time try the following:

1) Right Click on the TableNinja shortcut on your desktop
2) Chose "Properties" and go to the compatibility tab
3) Select "Run this program in compatibility mode for" Windows Vista SP2

Mouse hotkeys should then work with no problems.

Let me know if that helps,

Thanks

Tarath


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Thanks for the detailed feedback, I really appreciate it. I think all of those feature requests are very reasonable and managable (TableNinja does all but one of them I think) so I definitely think those are things we could implement in a potential future commercial version.

Tarath

I'm a PokerShortcuts user (FT) who's been playing without it for weeks now since the FT software update. Just wondering what percentge of your software's features are working correctly, in particular time bank, "bet pot" and "fold/call/raise" for a vista system. Thanks.

Also, are you planning to merge your FT version with your PS version so people can play multiple sites with one shortcut program? I would find this very useful.

I was one of the close beta testers. I was using Poker Shortcuts before and completely switched to TableNinjaFT now. Using Win7 with Aero having the time bank clicking work in stacked is the killer feature imo.

I would also like to see some annoyances disappear in the near future, so I'm asking, if some users made or use some good Autohotkey scripts, like the one posted earlier to close the lobbies?

I'm looking for:

• Autoclicking the "I'm back button"
• Autoclicking the "I'm ready button"
• Using navigational keys to move from one table to another
• Table layout switcher by hotkey
• "Sit out on all tables" hotkey
• Hotkey to register for a selected tournament and handling the following windows (A full blown SNG Opener is probably to much to ask for)

Sounds like those feature will take at least two month until they would appear in TNFT (maybe).
I will take a look if I could use PSC for those missing features without it having interfear with TNFT.

Hi Tarath,

I am also playing only ONE TABLE to test the software:
I am NOT using the any AHK script.
I'm running Win XP

FT settings:
- Display table on action is ON
- Classic table view

TNFT settings:
- No Overlap
- Table Control: tried all three and only "Table Under Mouse" worked at all

MOST ANNOYING: My title bar is flickering constantly when i move the mouse over the table!! Unfortunately is not usable for me. That flickering is not supportable!

Hope you can help me with suggestions/solutions. Thx in advance!

As far as I know everything is working completely, although you will need to run an "Aero" theme in vista for the time bank feature to work on background tables if you stack, cascade, or overlap your tables.

If you have any problems its almost certainly a configuration issue, I'd just download the program (its free) and give it a try and everything should work.

We will definitely merging the two programs in the future once the FT version is fully developed.

All of these things are definitely features we'd like to add in the future but like you said it will take some time.

I really appreciate the detailed feedback, I've added these all to my list.

Hi,

My guess is that you have chat detached. Unfortunately TableNinjaFT does not currently support detaching chat. Try undetatching the chat and everything should work.

We were just made aware of the detached chat problem yesterday (thanks to Beach_Bum's hard work which I am extremely greatful for) so it is not yet in our FAQ/Documentation, sorry for the confusion on this.

If that is not the problem then this may be an AHK conflict. Are you running any AHK scripts?

Thanks!

Tarath

Tarath: would it help if a group of players raised a money pool for certain features ?

yes. after atached the chat it is working. thx!