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08-21-2009 , 08:55 PM
does the first in line feature combined with the "let table steal focus" feature allow me to stack 16 tables without me getting pwned by ftp? haven't tried this yet
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08-21-2009 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Glad you like the program! I'll answer your questions one by one.

1) It sounds like maybe you want to try the "Table In Foreground" table control method on the Table Control tab. This method will allow tables to pop up as they need action and they time banks will be clicked each time they pop up.

You can also have TableNinja click timebanks on other tables by using the "Click Timebanks" hotkey.

By setting the "If a timebank has been visible for more than x seconds" option, you can have TableNinjaFT play a warning sound any time there are time banks that need to be clicked. Anytime you hear this sound you can simply press the "Cycle to First in Line Hotkey" or "Click timebanks hotkey" and TableNinjaFT will click all the timebanks.

2) We worked quite hard to try and make TableNinjaFT completely compatible with the built in FT scroll wheel functions. Is the scroll wheel working when TableNinjaFT is off and then it stops working when it is on? Can you try turning on the "highlight bet amount" option in Full Tilt under Options -> Highlight Bet amount


"Table in foreground" solves my first problem. thank you!

but my scroll wheel -- it works in BB increments, but when i switch to smooth in Full Tilt's OPTIONS (which is supposed to allow it to work in smaller SB increments) it doesn't work. choosing "highlight bet amount" doesn't fix it. but i may have been having this problem before w/FT, so it might not be a tableninjaFT problem.

anyway, thanks again!
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08-21-2009 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Thanks for the positive feedback

I've done my best to describe exactly where TableNinjaFT looks for white on the cards. I trust that you guys will figure out clever ways to make this all work.


I hope this helps, we would definitely be willing to change things around or bit or try and make it easier for you guys if needed. I don't know many of the details of how mods work with FT so just let me know if theres some small change we could make that would make things a lot better for modding.

Tarath
Nice one Tarath, thanks for the quick reply. I don't suppose you can change this white area to somewhere closer to the corners do you? I would say top wright corner is a good one since , generally very little is going there. Another good place i think is bottom right too. Maybe Bar Nuthin has a better idea...

Thanks again
Cheers
KuPoB_K

Bollocks, i just realised my time bank is not switching on automatically. Is it 'cause i use desaturated bottons?

Last edited by KuPoB_K; 08-21-2009 at 09:50 PM.
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08-21-2009 , 10:52 PM
Just another wee thought, Is there a way you could make the "look for particular pixel color" an option, so each user can set their own and "tell" TableNinja which color it should look for at the cards. That way when we make mods we can add reame file which will tell the user what color to enter in the box.

ta
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08-21-2009 , 10:59 PM
looking through the thread i dont see anyone else mention this:

there are weird issues with the pot betting tab on various streets. occasionally the program doesn't like the math and will pop up an error from the system tray about it. Despite the error, a relatively correct amount will still show up in the bet box. Seems random, but thought you'ld like to know.
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08-22-2009 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by KuPoB_K
Nice one Tarath, thanks for the quick reply. I don't suppose you can change this white area to somewhere closer to the corners do you? I would say top wright corner is a good one since , generally very little is going there. Another good place i think is bottom right too. Maybe Bar Nuthin has a better idea...

Thanks again
Cheers
KuPoB_K
i've always thought the streets should just look for a ± variance of table felt color.

I guess it depends on how large an area it samples. for example, if it sampled a 20x20 pixel block in the center of the card image (searching for a pure white pixel), most custom decks would work. I know BetPot didn't have much trouble with custom decks.

I know very little about scripting, so any explanation of the requirements will help all of us modders make nice decks that are compatible

thanks for the great mod guys!
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08-22-2009 , 03:07 AM
Does something in TableNinja FT interfere with having a Word document open while playing? I use a MS Word-like substitute called 'Jarte' and it crashes while using TableNinja FT.
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08-22-2009 , 07:18 AM
Anybody have any experience running this with TableNinga on Stars at the same time?
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08-22-2009 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by steel108
Anybody have any experience running this with TableNinga on Stars at the same time?
Some people already posted ITT
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08-22-2009 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KuPoB_K
Just another wee thought, Is there a way you could make the "look for particular pixel color" an option, so each user can set their own and "tell" TableNinja which color it should look for at the cards. That way when we make mods we can add reame file which will tell the user what color to enter in the box.

ta
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Originally Posted by Bar Nuthin
i've always thought the streets should just look for a ± variance of table felt color.

I guess it depends on how large an area it samples. for example, if it sampled a 20x20 pixel block in the center of the card image (searching for a pure white pixel), most custom decks would work. I know BetPot didn't have much trouble with custom decks.

I know very little about scripting, so any explanation of the requirements will help all of us modders make nice decks that are compatible

thanks for the great mod guys!
We really haven't tried hard to support custom cards yet, we just wanted to get something simple working with the default settings asap.

Looking for the felt is a bit dicy, but my guess is that we can come up with something pretty robust in the future.

I think something like what KuPob suggested is probably along the right track.

The picture I showed you with where we look for white is a sure fire solution for now, but we'll look into better options when we have some time and I will be sure to post here and keep you guys up to date.


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Originally Posted by ghostbeef
looking through the thread i dont see anyone else mention this:

there are weird issues with the pot betting tab on various streets. occasionally the program doesn't like the math and will pop up an error from the system tray about it. Despite the error, a relatively correct amount will still show up in the bet box. Seems random, but thought you'ld like to know.
I definitely appreciate the bug report, do you know what exactly the error said?

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Originally Posted by Stosh
Does something in TableNinja FT interfere with having a Word document open while playing? I use a MS Word-like substitute called 'Jarte' and it crashes while using TableNinja FT.
TableNinjaFT does use the clipboard which could conceivably cause problems with a word like program. I have never heard a report of this type of problem before but the program is brand new.

Tarath
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08-22-2009 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KuPoB_K
Nice one Tarath, thanks for the quick reply. I don't suppose you can change this white area to somewhere closer to the corners do you? I would say top wright corner is a good one since , generally very little is going there. Another good place i think is bottom right too. Maybe Bar Nuthin has a better idea...

Thanks again
Cheers
KuPoB_K

Bollocks, i just realised my time bank is not switching on automatically. Is it 'cause i use desaturated bottons?
This is likely the problem. If you have set a system environment vairable like "QT_USE_NATIVE_WINDOWS = 1" so that each button is its own control then TableNinjaFT will not work.

The program should detect your settings on this and warn you in big red text on the setup tab, but that feature is not very thoroughly tested so it might be we don't always detect it that depending on how you exposed the native button controls.

Tarath
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08-22-2009 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
This is likely the problem. If you have set a system environment vairable like "QT_USE_NATIVE_WINDOWS = 1" so that each button is its own control then TableNinjaFT will not work.

The program should detect your settings on this and warn you in big red text on the setup tab, but that feature is not very thoroughly tested so it might be we don't always detect it that depending on how you exposed the native button controls.

Tarath


Not quite sure what are you saying. lol
I get no warning messages though. It just won't turn on automatically. It works with the shortcut botton though.
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08-22-2009 , 05:55 PM
Nice job!
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08-22-2009 , 06:05 PM
Great program, a little money shipped! Please develop further!!
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08-22-2009 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath

I definitely appreciate the bug report, do you know what exactly the error said?

Tarath
'error making pot percentage bet' or something similar. can't really make out a pattern to it.
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08-22-2009 , 08:01 PM
This proggie is bomb. Been using it with PokerShortcuts
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08-22-2009 , 08:15 PM
i don't think the "Let tables steal focus from other applications" function works, i tried stacking tables and it was a pretty horrific experience, i had firefox over the tables to test the function however it did nothing, as well as the first in line function, which maybe i confuse with "find table needing action?"
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08-22-2009 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostbeef
'error making pot percentage bet' or something similar. can't really make out a pattern to it.
Hmm, that error generally means that TableNinja is not seeing the "pot" tab Is your HUD a little to close to the slider bar area perhaps? Are you using a mod of any kind?

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Originally Posted by I Gotta Push
This proggie is bomb. Been using it with PokerShortcuts
Glad you like it

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Originally Posted by ixmike88
i don't think the "Let tables steal focus from other applications" function works, i tried stacking tables and it was a pretty horrific experience, i had firefox over the tables to test the function however it did nothing, as well as the first in line function, which maybe i confuse with "find table needing action?"
I'm not sure I understand your problem. Do you have "Display table on action" turned on in the Full Tilt Poker options?

Are you in the "Table in Foreground" table control mode? You shouldn't need to press a hotkey to bring tables to the top of yout stack (although that should also work if you want it to).

Anyways it sounds like you might need a bit of help setting this up.

If you want to shoot me an email at support-ft@alxsoftware.com I'm sure I can help you get stacking on FT working.

Tarath
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08-22-2009 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
I'm not sure I understand your problem. Do you have "Display table on action" turned on in the Full Tilt Poker options?

Are you in the "Table in Foreground" table control mode? You shouldn't need to press a hotkey to bring tables to the top of yout stack (although that should also work if you want it to).

Anyways it sounds like you might need a bit of help setting this up.

If you want to shoot me an email at support-ft@alxsoftware.com I'm sure I can help you get stacking on FT working.

Tarath
yes, i use table in foreground, have display table on action checked and have the table layout set to 'Stacked'

when it was my turn on one of my tables the tables kept shuffling through each other making it difficult to act and also making it laggy

should i just email you?
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08-22-2009 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ixmike88
yes, i use table in foreground, have display table on action checked and have the table layout set to 'Stacked'

when it was my turn on one of my tables the tables kept shuffling through each other making it difficult to act and also making it laggy

should i just email you?
Yeah, I've never heard of anyone having a problem like this so why don't you email me the following and I'll see if we can get things working:

1) Your TNFTLog file and TNFTConfigAutoLoad file from your TableNinjaFT install directory
2) A screen shot of your tables
3) Any other poker programs/AHKs that you are running

Thanks

Tarath
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08-23-2009 , 04:19 AM
It would be real nice if you could put a toggle autopost on all tables hotkey in the next version.

For a little bit more advanced request, it would be great if you could have a hotkey drop a table out of the stack to an empty portion of the screen (preset coords are fine) and then return it, so you can keep an eye on it for a moment during a key hand.

Used the software today to 16 table for a few hours and LOVED it. Really really helpful.
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08-23-2009 , 04:21 AM
It would be real nice if you could put a toggle autopost on all tables hotkey in the next version.

For a little bit more advanced request, it would be great if you could have a hotkey drop a table out of the stack to an empty portion of the screen (preset coords are fine) and then another hotkey to return it, so you can keep an eye on it for a moment during a key hand.

Used the software today to 16 table for a few hours and LOVED it. Really really helpful.
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08-23-2009 , 10:55 AM
Re: Custom Cards

(too many posts to quote)

I always use #ffffff for my card's text. I have never had a problem with any of my decks using BetPot or Poker ShortCuts. AFAIK they both search for colors to determine the street, but I have no idea how small of an area they are checking, or what specific areas. BetPot searches for pure white to determine the street. PSC uses the calibrated felt color to determine the street (I assume).

I think the ability to calibrate TN to the currently installed custom table felt or custom deck, would be a better option for support of custom mods.
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08-23-2009 , 12:34 PM
when the program is minimized at the systray, and you hover the mouse over its icon, it says "TableNinja" instead of "TableNinjarFT". I'm getting confused sometimes when i use both at the same time =) both are awesome
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08-23-2009 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Hmm, that error generally means that TableNinja is not seeing the "pot" tab Is your HUD a little to close to the slider bar area perhaps? Are you using a mod of any kind?

Tarath
it was the hud when someone's stat's got a bit too big. works as expected now, tyty. One comment, it would be nice to have a 'mute' button for the error messages, eg when you inevitably try to bet before the action it pops up the error message. A fail silently option would be nice there.
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