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08-21-2009 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tarath
The short answer is, it depends on the card mod. TableNinjaFT counts how many cards are on the felt to determine the street by looking for white in specific locations.

If its potting it every street this means its not recognizing any cards unfortunately.

Tarath
Ugh.
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08-21-2009 , 04:10 AM
i set the right arrow for pot bet, but I got error every time when I tried click the right arrow preflop.
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08-21-2009 , 05:36 AM
OMG NICE
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08-21-2009 , 08:17 AM
could you add support to one "decent" mod (like hypersimple for stars)? i dont know if there is any standard mod, but i think most people who multitable have some sort of cleaner looking mod.

also i would love if i could set the default pre-flop raise size by position (i.e. 3.5x in early, 3x in middle and 2.5x in late). i was going to try this for some time now but im too lazy/slow to type it in while multi-tabling.

thanks for doing this as donationware btw, im definitely going to make a small donation if i end up using this thing.
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08-21-2009 , 08:27 AM
Create an "ultimate" version with a fully featured ftp client and integrate it with stars so that the macros work cross site and you could sell it for $100-$150 easy.

I would snap call so fast on any amount under $300. Prolly use my timebank and cryingly call a fair amount higher too. I doubt I'm alone here.
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08-21-2009 , 09:53 AM
I'm a buyer for a fully functioning product...and I'll reckon I'm not alone.
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08-21-2009 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by styx2000
could you add support to one "decent" mod (like hypersimple for stars)? i dont know if there is any standard mod, but i think most people who multitable have some sort of cleaner looking mod.
Can we please post any card mods we have found that worked? I know this is a soar spot for many people. I found this one in the new FTP mods thread, and just quickly tested it. It seems to work because of the white areas.



If anyone has found any other card mods that are compatible, please post them.
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08-21-2009 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarath
The short answer is, it depends on the card mod. TableNinjaFT counts how many cards are on the felt to determine the street by looking for white in specific locations.

If its potting it every street this means its not recognizing any cards unfortunately.

Tarath
Yo man,
Top software but could you let us know where the white spots are so when we make mods, we can make compatible with TableNinjaFT?

Cheers, grreat job on the program..
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08-21-2009 , 01:08 PM
I am using full colored card mods, so...
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08-21-2009 , 02:11 PM
the mod i'm using is not working, it doesnt have any white in the cards (besides the letters/numbers themselves).

would also pay for a commercial version.

would be great if you had a list of known compatible mods on your website.
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08-21-2009 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ixmike88
this is part of a script i wrote for myself a while ago:

Code:
#SingleInstance ignore
Hotkey, F2, CloseLobbies
CloseLobbyTimer:=2000
GroupAdd, Lobbies, Full Tilt Poker - Tournament

#Persistent
	SetTimer, CloseLobbiesTimed, %CloseLobbyTimer%
return

CloseLobbies:
	GroupClose, Lobbies, A
return

CloseLobbiesTimed:
	If CloseLobbyTimer>0 
		GroupClose, Lobbies, A
return
change F2 to whatever, and set Timer to whatever (in milliseconds, 0 to disable)

hope it helps
THANK YOU !!!
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08-21-2009 , 02:58 PM
Hey i've been having problems with the table control, the "cycle to first in line hotkey" and the forward back table cycle keys arent working. would you like me to email you those files again?

by the way after changing the setup and downloading the newest version i found the pot betting hotkeys to be working awesome. I would also be interested in a fully functional version to work alongside TN PS.

oh i also think the time bank clickers quit working.
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08-21-2009 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KuPoB_K
Yo man,
Top software but could you let us know where the white spots are so when we make mods, we can make compatible with TableNinjaFT?

Cheers, grreat job on the program..
this +1
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08-21-2009 , 04:37 PM
Great news! TableNinja is a fantastic piece of sw - looking forward to trying the Full Tilt version.
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08-21-2009 , 05:32 PM
love tableninjaFT - love it! thank you very much.

i have XP (so i can't run the aero background as you suggest), and i don't use any mods.

played coupla hours today -- 6 tables nlhe cash, overlapped tables. worked great, but i have two questions:

1. tables sometimes time out cuz they don't pop to the front when action is on me. the only time they pop up is when i hold my mouse over the table. can i fix this?

2. mouse wheel - can i increase/decrease my bet amts by using the mouse wheel? doesn't work for me now - i have to type in the bet amt.

thank you again. i used to use FT shortcuts til the FT update squished it.
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08-21-2009 , 05:49 PM
Can I use the regular setup and 4 color deck or do I have to use 2 color deck?
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08-21-2009 , 06:04 PM
For me a HUD with # of BBs in your stack, as well as ability to see # of BBs in villains stack is essential.

I'd also like to see full gamepad support.
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08-21-2009 , 06:19 PM
I would deff buy a commercial version, I'll be donating also once I get paypal sorted.
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08-21-2009 , 07:10 PM
Wow there are a lot of posts here, I will do my best to reply to everyone. If I miss anyone it is purely by accident and please feel free to ask me again


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Originally Posted by pokerXfox
I've been testing tableninjaFT from the start a few weeks ago, and I have also used Table Ninja on Stars for awhile. No other program has been so error free and worked so well. I am very pleased with how it works on my XP and Vista machines. Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by steel108
I used it at 2NL for a few orbits and it worked flawlessly. I have a card mod so it doesn't see what street I'm on, but it's fine, just a few flicks of my finger on the mouse scroll.
Any time we release a new program it is always nerve racking so I really appreciate you guys taking the time to let me know things are generally working

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Originally Posted by ixmike88
brb jizzing over monitor
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Originally Posted by uppie_
I would say give the guy some time, its just basic for starters. He is the man. Just hope someday down the road the stars and FTP version can run as one.
I am overwhelmed by all the enthusiasm and support in this thread. There is nothing quite as gratifying as a software developer as knowing that people are enjoying the program you created and it really makes all the late nights feel worthwhile. So thank you

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Originally Posted by ghostbeef
This works great with xpadder+XPSP3. One question though, can you configure it so that it can 'add' +/- xBB (1bb, 2bb, etc) and then you can trigger whatever your total amount is with the Bet/Raise? Right now it seems you can only bet to one of four %s, sometimes you want to get more accurate sizing.

eg if button 2 was +1BB and you clicked it 4 times it would raise your bet $ 1BB each click
Currently this is not possible. I am very reluctant to promise to add any new features because doing that tends to snowball but this would be one of the very easiest things for us to add.

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Originally Posted by billxo1b
i set the right arrow for pot bet, but I got error every time when I tried click the right arrow preflop.
The most likely cause of this is that your HUD might be covering part of the "pot" button or part of the bet slider or if you are using an unsupported mod. This can also occur if you set a "QT_USE_NATIVE_WINDOWS" environment variable at some point.

If that doesn't help you get things working feel free to email me a screen shot of your tables at support-ft@alxsoftware.com and I'll help you out.

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Originally Posted by jogden139
Hey i've been having problems with the table control, the "cycle to first in line hotkey" and the forward back table cycle keys arent working. would you like me to email you those files again?

by the way after changing the setup and downloading the newest version i found the pot betting hotkeys to be working awesome. I would also be interested in a fully functional version to work alongside TN PS.

oh i also think the time bank clickers quit working.
Yeah if you could email me those files again I'll definitely take a look. It sounds like TableNinja is not detecting if its your turn properly. A screen shot of your table with your hud running would also be very helpful.

At least we fixed the pot betting problem, hopefully I can help you get everything else working asap

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Originally Posted by fizresh
love tableninjaFT - love it! thank you very much.

i have XP (so i can't run the aero background as you suggest), and i don't use any mods.

played coupla hours today -- 6 tables nlhe cash, overlapped tables. worked great, but i have two questions:

1. tables sometimes time out cuz they don't pop to the front when action is on me. the only time they pop up is when i hold my mouse over the table. can i fix this?

2. mouse wheel - can i increase/decrease my bet amts by using the mouse wheel? doesn't work for me now - i have to type in the bet amt.

thank you again. i used to use FT shortcuts til the FT update squished it.
Glad you like the program! I'll answer your questions one by one.

1) It sounds like maybe you want to try the "Table In Foreground" table control method on the Table Control tab. This method will allow tables to pop up as they need action and they time banks will be clicked each time they pop up.

You can also have TableNinja click timebanks on other tables by using the "Click Timebanks" hotkey.

By setting the "If a timebank has been visible for more than x seconds" option, you can have TableNinjaFT play a warning sound any time there are time banks that need to be clicked. Anytime you hear this sound you can simply press the "Cycle to First in Line Hotkey" or "Click timebanks hotkey" and TableNinjaFT will click all the timebanks.

2) We worked quite hard to try and make TableNinjaFT completely compatible with the built in FT scroll wheel functions. Is the scroll wheel working when TableNinjaFT is off and then it stops working when it is on? Can you try turning on the "highlight bet amount" option in Full Tilt under Options -> Highlight Bet amount

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Can I use the regular setup and 4 color deck or do I have to use 2 color deck?
The regular setup with the 4 color deck should work with no problems. All the built in Full Tilt card options should work.

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Originally Posted by cds0699
I would deff buy a commercial version, I'll be donating also once I get paypal sorted.
Thanks, for the support


Thanks guys,

Tarath
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08-21-2009 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KuPoB_K
Yo man,
Top software but could you let us know where the white spots are so when we make mods, we can make compatible with TableNinjaFT?

Cheers, grreat job on the program..
Thanks for the positive feedback

I've done my best to describe exactly where TableNinjaFT looks for white on the cards. I trust that you guys will figure out clever ways to make this all work.

If any of this is unclear or if there is any way I can help feel free to ask.


We define a rectangle where each card is which we scale with the size of the table. Within that rectangle we look for a single white pixel 25% from the left and 25% from the bottom. This general area is show circled in green on the default hi-res King of Hearts below.



Even though we're looking for a single pixel, the boxes we place around the cards probably aren't perfect, so you'd want to have a reasonable area be white.

The complication is that when the table switches to low-res images (around when it is 420 pixels tall (total window size in Vista)) the cards are shifted to the bottom of the box, and don't fill it entirely so there's felt showing at the top. They then don't match up with the hi-res rectangle we relatively scale until you reach the smallest table size.

Thus, for now, you'd need to keep a white area on the low-res images that is non-square, specifically it should include the spot we look at on the hi-res cards, and some more space above that. You should definitely test that TableNinjaFT is detecting the street correctly at a range of table sizes that display lo-res cards before deciding that it works.

I hope this helps, we would definitely be willing to change things around or bit or try and make it easier for you guys if needed. I don't know many of the details of how mods work with FT so just let me know if theres some small change we could make that would make things a lot better for modding.

Tarath

Last edited by tarath; 08-21-2009 at 07:31 PM.
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08-21-2009 , 07:20 PM
I know a lot of you are really hoping that we will expand TableNinjaFT and when I read through the thread it definitely makes me want to drop everything and give you guys all the great features you want Unfortunately due to time constraints this just isn't possible and I wanted to be upfront with you guys and try and explain things thoroughly.

We've had people requesting a version of TableNinja for Full Tilt for months but we knew we didn't have the time to develop on both PokerStars and Full Tilt simultaneously. We decided to release TableNinjaFT despite these concerns because after the recent Full Tilt Software update, Full Tilt players were left without any reliable software and we wanted to help out the community by providing something simple and reliable to use in the near future.

We thought really hard about our options and reached the conclusion that the only possible way for us to release a program for Full Tilt at this time was to keep it simple. We have a commitment to our TableNinja users on PokerStars and have two big updates planned for them that are our top priorities.

Our plan is to focus on TableNinja for the next two months or so and keep TableNinjaFT as a side project. Then after our two big TableNinja updates we will see how much support there is for a full featured commercial version of TableNinjaFT and re-evaluate.

To be clear, we are committed to making sure that the current version of the program works smoothly and reliably so if you have any issue with existing features let us know. We just don't have a lot of time to develop new features right now.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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08-21-2009 , 07:39 PM
having the ability to have bets typed in for us and clicking time bank automatically was the 2 biggest issues people were having. you guys are doing us a HUGE favor by releasing the current beta! job well done.
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08-21-2009 , 07:47 PM
Will this close some of the ftp dialog boxes, i.e. buy chips, leave table and seat available?
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08-21-2009 , 07:51 PM
great work guys, what SN of FTP can I donate to?
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08-21-2009 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LT22
having the ability to have bets typed in for us and clicking time bank automatically was the 2 biggest issues people were having. you guys are doing us a HUGE favor by releasing the current beta! job well done.
That was our thinking, we figured the community would be better of with the current beta than without even though we know it doesn't yet do everything that everyone wants.

I know how painful playing without time bank in particular can be so we figured we'd give you guys what we could asap and then go from there.

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Originally Posted by etienne
Will this close some of the ftp dialog boxes, i.e. buy chips, leave table and seat available?
If we expand the program into a full commercial program all of these things would certainly be added but currently it does not do any pop-up handling.

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Originally Posted by R3AG4N
great work guys, what SN of FTP can I donate to?
Thank you very much for your support, you can send donations to "tarath" (all lower case, no quotes) on FTP

Tarath
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