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05-17-2009 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gene Fish
btw...don't know if this info helps you out or not..but i had a kind of annoying lag with your program when i bought it a few months ago so i switched back to the normal scripts...since your new update, things are lightening fast and i'm back to using your program.

i'd also like to suggest with your "Smart Big Blind Sitout" that when the popup for slow tables comes up, it auto clicks "Sit Out"

thanks!
We've been working really hard on improving performance over the last few months so this is really encouraging feedback.

Adding Sitting out when the blind comes around ought to be quite doable.

Thanks

Tarath
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05-17-2009 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by catoandtonic
Just bought the program. I have only been using it for a week or so, but I cannot imagine life without TN.

A couple of suggestions/ideas:

---When cascading it is difficult to take notes because Stars steals focus away from the chat/note box when a table requires action. Would it be possible to bind a key to automatically put the cursor back into the chat/note box of last table it was in? I realize that suggestion is a little out there, but I thought I would toss it out anyways.

---Recently I was tracking down some colluders and wanted to open one of their tables to see if the other colluder was indeed at the same table(he was). I opened their table without realizing that I had autobuy-in selected and I accidentally sat at that table. It made me realize that having an option to only autobuy-in at a certain limit or two would be a useful option. I can also see scenarios where someone wants to rail a higher stake game but does not want to accidentally buy in for all or larger percentage of roll.

---Could we get an option to auto click "wait for BB" on non-fast tables?

---Could we get an option for the scroll wheel to adjust the bet size in both directions? Meaning that up scroll would increase the size of the bet by whatever the pre-determined increment is under one option. Under the other option, the up scroll would decrease the size. I suppose, kinda like a reverse scrolling option.

Thanks for the program. It will save me at least a million clicks over the next year.
This is great feedback

Wait for BB and inverting the scroll wheel are definitely on our list. I had never considered something like what your describing for notetaking. Note-taking while stacking/cascading is definitely not easy so doing something to make this more managable is a great idea. I'll have to brainstorm a bit on exactly how it would work.

Thanks

Tarath
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05-17-2009 , 09:39 PM
Keyboard Redirect worked quite well while using AHK scripts for me, and seems to be working nicely with PSC also. I would expect it will work nicely with TN as well.

If I have KR runniing, and start chatting at the table (which I rarely do) or making notes in HEM HUD Notes (which i do often) pokerstars will not steal focus back if my cursor is over the chat box i am typing into (also works nicely for chatting on AIM or posting on 2p2). Once I finish making my note, and manually move to the active table and make my action, then my poker session goes back to normal til the next note situation where I decide to steal focus from pokerstars and my hotkeys mouse control.
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05-18-2009 , 01:12 AM
Hey guys,

I just paid and it just now started totally freaking out -- bet sizing is now really crazy and inconsistent.

I play SNGs:

I've got it set up to use 85% / 80% / 75% (flop turn river) and 3+1 per limper pre. It's started minraising for no reason, leading 2.6k at 400, and leading 100 at 650 at totally random intervals.

Is this a known issue?
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05-18-2009 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Raventhon
Hey guys,

I just paid and it just now started totally freaking out -- bet sizing is now really crazy and inconsistent.

I play SNGs:

I've got it set up to use 85% / 80% / 75% (flop turn river) and 3+1 per limper pre. It's started minraising for no reason, leading 2.6k at 400, and leading 100 at 650 at totally random intervals.

Is this a known issue?
Hey,

I've never heard of anything like this. Why don't you email me your TableNinja log file and your TNConfigAutoLoad file (both are located in your TableNinja install directory) at support@alxsoftware.com and I will take a look at it right away. Also if you can include a list of scripts/programs you run while you play and a screenshot of your tables with your HUD running laid out as they are when you play that will speed things up.

Thanks and sorry your having problems,

Tarath
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05-18-2009 , 02:05 AM
Ok, I don't come by 2p2 much anymore, but I saw this and went through a bunch of the thread and after DLing - granted I haven't used it yet - it just seems like a glorified version of AHK Betpot and AHK StarsAssistant. Is there any real benefit to it over these two (free) AHK scripts? I will try it out this week, but if I knew the benefits, it might help.

Thanks
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05-18-2009 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mdpilam
Ok, I don't come by 2p2 much anymore, but I saw this and went through a bunch of the thread and after DLing - granted I haven't used it yet - it just seems like a glorified version of AHK Betpot and AHK StarsAssistant. Is there any real benefit to it over these two (free) AHK scripts? I will try it out this week, but if I knew the benefits, it might help.

Thanks
This is a good question. If you've download the program and glanced through it then you know we have a lot more features then these two scripts combined so I won't go into that. Instead I will say the real advantage of TableNinja is the attention to detail we've put into the program.

Rather than just sitting out at the next blind at all your tables, our Sit out next Big Blind feature, checks to see if you are about to post the small blind and waits until the blind has passed you to sit out so that you don't miss a free orbit of hands by sitting out on the small blind.

There was recently a thread about how using the Advanced Action checkboxes while stacking results in a lot of mistakes because tables can pop to the foreground right as you are clicking the advanced action checkbox and you may accidently click fold on the new table rather than the c/f checkbox on the old table. Our Advance Action hotkeys automatically protect you from that ever occurring if you use the "Table in Foreground" mode.

Our fold hotkey knows when its free to check and checks instead, our call hotkey knows when your facing an all-in and clicks the right button instead of the middle button. Our automatic cash buy-in detects when you recently left the table with more than you are trying to by in for and automatically corrects your buy-in amount. Our automatically click I'm back feature sits you in within 10 seconds of you timing out, it does not wait an entire hand, etc.

Poker is a game where small edges over time add up to a lot of money and I think that is really why TableNinja is well worth the $25. TableNinja will save you a small blind, a misclick, a timeout, on a regular basis and over time this adds up to a lot of money. Obviously not everyone will feel this way, but I suggest you simply give TableNinja a try and see what you think. The beta will last 4 more days and then you will have a 1 week full featured trial to play with for free so you will have plenty of time to decide for yourself.

Tarath
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05-18-2009 , 05:52 AM
First of all, Table Ninja is great. Kudos!

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if someone already made this suggestion (if so, sorry about that), but it would be really great if you could set a different default opening raise for every position (at the moment there's only one default pre-flop bet amount).

Are there any plans to include this?
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05-18-2009 , 11:43 AM
Hi Tarath - been using this software for a while.. it's awesome. Will be buying it once the betas end.

Just one thing - I noticed ppl were asking whether there would be a 'move tables' to spot X functionality and you mentioned that it might make it into the next update. Would it be possible to have a 'move table when hero sees flop' type of option? would be awesome.

Thanks. Great job and keep it up!
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05-18-2009 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Can you email me your TableNinja log file and your TNConfigAutoLoad file (both are located in your TableNinja install directory). I will take a look and see if I can help get things working.

Thanks

Tarath
Doing so now. I'd really like to get this worked out before the beta period ends since funds are tight. Once this is fixed, I plan on finding a way to get this.
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05-18-2009 , 02:23 PM
I've just purchased the complete version of TableNinja. I'm playing on PokerStars.it, I'd like to know if you are going to make TN working 100% on Ps.it!

The raises pre and post flop will work?? Thanks!
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05-18-2009 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Homey D. Clown
First of all, Table Ninja is great. Kudos!

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if someone already made this suggestion (if so, sorry about that), but it would be really great if you could set a different default opening raise for every position (at the moment there's only one default pre-flop bet amount).

Are there any plans to include this?
We do plan to include this, it will not make it into the upcoming update, but may make it into the one after this. We have figured out exactly how to make this feature work, but it is a more complex programming task than you might expect and will take some time. It would definitely be awesome though so we really want to get it working.

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Originally Posted by mantheman
Hi Tarath - been using this software for a while.. it's awesome. Will be buying it once the betas end.

Just one thing - I noticed ppl were asking whether there would be a 'move tables' to spot X functionality and you mentioned that it might make it into the next update. Would it be possible to have a 'move table when hero sees flop' type of option? would be awesome.

Thanks. Great job and keep it up!
We have plans to add an option to automatically sort tables into piles by street, but this will also not make it into the next update. We have not started work on this feature yet at all so it will probably be a little while.

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Originally Posted by Ghosteh
Doing so now. I'd really like to get this worked out before the beta period ends since funds are tight. Once this is fixed, I plan on finding a way to get this.
I responded to your email, hopefully we can get everything straightened out.

Thanks for all the feedback guys!

Tarath
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05-18-2009 , 03:10 PM
Just started to use it, and my "Fold" hotkey won't work (F2). It blinks red on the GUI when I press it (mouse over table), but nothing happens. Also, do I need to assign another hk to the "check/fold" buttons, or will my "Fold" hk automatically do this for me? I read everything, but this didn't seem clear, and obv. my Fold is not working...

Also, does this program have anything that will join a waitlist for me? Or do I still need to use AHK StarsAssistant to do that?
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05-18-2009 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mdpilam
Just started to use it, and my "Fold" hotkey won't work (F2). It blinks red on the GUI when I press it (mouse over table), but nothing happens. Also, do I need to assign another hk to the "check/fold" buttons, or will my "Fold" hk automatically do this for me? I read everything, but this didn't seem clear, and obv. my Fold is not working...

Also, does this program have anything that will join a waitlist for me? Or do I still need to use AHK StarsAssistant to do that?
Is your Pokerstars theme set correctly in the setup tab? Are you running as administrator in vista?

We are adding a whole bunch of waitlist functionality in the next update (hotkeys for joining waitlists, automatically taking seats or not based on the number of tables you have open, etc) but for the next week or two I'd use stars assistant.

Also do you have the cash game auto-seating turned on?

If you have trouble getting everything set up, email me at support@alxsoftware.com with your TNConfigAutoLoad file and your log file and I'll be happy to help,

Tarath
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05-18-2009 , 04:10 PM
add a sng opener that's as solid and reliable as the rest of table ninja and i'll kiss you on the mouth
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05-18-2009 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Is your Pokerstars theme set correctly in the setup tab? Are you running as administrator in vista?

We are adding a whole bunch of waitlist functionality in the next update (hotkeys for joining waitlists, automatically taking seats or not based on the number of tables you have open, etc) but for the next week or two I'd use stars assistant.

Also do you have the cash game auto-seating turned on?

If you have trouble getting everything set up, email me at support@alxsoftware.com with your TNConfigAutoLoad file and your log file and I'll be happy to help,

Tarath
I am using Hypersimple, and I have all the other PS settings as per the documentation. I use XP Home (and am the Admin.). And I do not have Auto Seating turned on, b/c I use StarsPlanner and if I go over my allowed # of tables, it closes the next table automatically.

I emailed you my files. Thanks alot for your quick responses, it makes me much more apt to purchase software knowing I will be getting good CS.
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05-18-2009 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mdpilam
I am using Hypersimple, and I have all the other PS settings as per the documentation. I use XP Home (and am the Admin.). And I do not have Auto Seating turned on, b/c I use StarsPlanner and if I go over my allowed # of tables, it closes the next table automatically.

I emailed you my files. Thanks alot for your quick responses, it makes me much more apt to purchase software knowing I will be getting good CS.
I have to correct myself, I am using the skoal2k4 theme, not Hypersimple. I am guessing this is the problem... Is there any way this will work with this theme? I really like how the sn's are rectangles instead of circles on this theme....
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05-18-2009 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mdpilam
I have to correct myself, I am using the skoal2k4 theme, not Hypersimple. I am guessing this is the problem... Is there any way this will work with this theme? I really like how the sn's are rectangles instead of circles on this theme....
I just sent you a new email clarifying, hopefully everything makes sense now and you can get things working.

Tarath
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05-18-2009 , 11:03 PM
Tarath

How much will the price be increasing after the 22nd from $25?
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05-18-2009 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Moya
Tarath

How much will the price be increasing after the 22nd from $25?
Not too much, we're trying to keep the program affordable. The price will increase to $35 after the beta ends.

Tarath
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05-19-2009 , 05:33 AM
I tried 50 tabling with table ninja today morning(after successfully 35, 40 and 50 tabling yesterday). Basically, lost control over games due to a slight lag and subsequently being sat out of games. Had to close ninja, shove and bust out of few ( down to 25 or so) before I could regain control over what was happening.. The 'sitting out' games pops-up to the front and causes a chain reaction in delays, leading to more 'sitting out'. Is there a way I can prevent 'sitting out' tables from being brought forward, but automatically be put back into game by table ninja ?


Didnt have this problem yesterday, may be because I did bust out of few games early, but was pretty much still in all 50 games even after 15-20 mins.

Also, when a new game pops-up (with the message 'tournaments starts in 1 min') the hotkey automatically targets this game (and other active games does not pop-up) which was the main reason for the start of 'sitting out' issues. Anyway to prevent the new games from being the target window ?

btw, I definitely like the software, except for these two troubles ( target-ing new games and bringing 'sitting out' games to foreground ).


Sorry if I am missing something very obvious. :P
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05-19-2009 , 10:20 AM
There needs to be an "auto-post blinds all tables" hotkey slot. Reason: when I want to return from sitting out, before I do I always have to go through all of my tables one by one and uncheck "auto-post blinds" on the non-fast ones, otherwise I get posted out of position and waste money. Adding a hotkey to do this all at once would make this process much easier and save me time.
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05-19-2009 , 02:00 PM
Hey, thought i'd come on here and say thanks for a good piece of software, bought it today b/c i was noticing the days ticking by and realising that i'd probably have a lot of problems multi-tabling now without it lol

Good stuff guys, 1 question though, is there any support for full tilt either currently being developed or planned for the next year while my free updates are still valid lol
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05-19-2009 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by effuno
I tried 50 tabling with table ninja today morning(after successfully 35, 40 and 50 tabling yesterday). Basically, lost control over games due to a slight lag and subsequently being sat out of games. Had to close ninja, shove and bust out of few ( down to 25 or so) before I could regain control over what was happening.. The 'sitting out' games pops-up to the front and causes a chain reaction in delays, leading to more 'sitting out'. Is there a way I can prevent 'sitting out' tables from being brought forward, but automatically be put back into game by table ninja ?


Didnt have this problem yesterday, may be because I did bust out of few games early, but was pretty much still in all 50 games even after 15-20 mins.

Also, when a new game pops-up (with the message 'tournaments starts in 1 min') the hotkey automatically targets this game (and other active games does not pop-up) which was the main reason for the start of 'sitting out' issues. Anyway to prevent the new games from being the target window ?

btw, I definitely like the software, except for these two troubles ( target-ing new games and bringing 'sitting out' games to foreground ).


Sorry if I am missing something very obvious. :P
Both the popping up when a tourney starts and when you are sat up are built in behaviors of pokerstars and will happen even if TableNinja is not running. Trying to block Stars from popping up tables is a very tricky thing to attempt because everyone relies so heavily on PokerStars popping up tables that require action on your turn, and anything we do to block tables from popping up is risky.

We might be able to automatically send new tournaments or tournaments where you a sitting out to the bottom our your stack and then retarget the top table automatically, thats the only option I can think of that might fix your issue. I will have to brainstorm on it, as there are a number of complications that can arise when you do things like that.

In the mean time I highly recommend using the "cycle to first in line tabe" hotkey to get around this problem. In both of the cases you describe where a new tourney pops up or a tourney in which you have timed out pops up, hitting the "cycle to first in line tabe" hotkey will instantly jump you back to the table requiring action. I use this hotkey a lot and it is extremely valuable for handling events like this that occasionally take you away from tables requiring action.


Hope this helps,

Tarath
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05-19-2009 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by king_nothing_
There needs to be an "auto-post blinds all tables" hotkey slot. Reason: when I want to return from sitting out, before I do I always have to go through all of my tables one by one and uncheck "auto-post blinds" on the non-fast ones, otherwise I get posted out of position and waste money. Adding a hotkey to do this all at once would make this process much easier and save me time.
This is definitely something we should do, good idea.

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Originally Posted by orangepeeleo
Hey, thought i'd come on here and say thanks for a good piece of software, bought it today b/c i was noticing the days ticking by and realising that i'd probably have a lot of problems multi-tabling now without it lol

Good stuff guys, 1 question though, is there any support for full tilt either currently being developed or planned for the next year while my free updates are still valid lol
Thanks! Glad you like the program. We currently have no plans to support FullTilt, and we still have a lot of features for PokerStars that we want to add. However, a year is a long time, so we may change our plans regarding Fulltilt.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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