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05-14-2009 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cstg
tarath, i have the full version of table ninja.
since yesterday when i open table ninja i got this:
FATAL ERROR! Please contact costumer service at support@tableninja.com.

what's that about? thanks.
Hi,

As part of ending the beta period we are disabling all old version of the program. That message just means that you need to update to the latest version from our website here: http://tableninja.com/downloads.php

Once you've updated everything should work smoothly as normal.


We have a FAQ item explaining this here: http://tableninja.com/faq.php

Thanks for buying TableNinja and sorry for the inconvenience.

Tarath
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05-14-2009 , 10:36 PM
Can I purchase this with moneybookers or player transfer?I don't have a credit card!
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05-14-2009 , 10:37 PM
something to consider: FTshortcuts is being replaced with pokershortcuts which does the same thing as tableninja. I had been planning to purchase ninja when it left beta, but as I already own ftshortcuts I have no initiative. You might consider offering a discount to FTshortcuts users to switch to your product. - just an idea.
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05-14-2009 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorrybadbeat
Can I purchase this with moneybookers or player transfer?I don't have a credit card!
if you can't, you can probably get someone in the marketplace or the player transfer threads to do it for you.
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05-15-2009 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tarath
Hi,

As part of ending the beta period we are disabling all old version of the program. That message just means that you need to update to the latest version from our website here: http://tableninja.com/downloads.php

Once you've updated everything should work smoothly as normal.
Probably you should have your server return some sort of error code and future versions of TableNinja return a readable error message so that people know to update the program. It probably would be easier for the users to have a customizable message from the server so that you can direct specific messages to particular versions.
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05-15-2009 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Powers_That_Be
something to consider: FTshortcuts is being replaced with pokershortcuts which does the same thing as tableninja. I had been planning to purchase ninja when it left beta, but as I already own ftshortcuts I have no initiative. You might consider offering a discount to FTshortcuts users to switch to your product. - just an idea.
I totally see where your coming from, you have already paid $30 for FTS3 and because of this you have access to the PSC beta. However, the vast majority of our users would have to pay $30 to beta test PSC and $40 to purchase it outright whereas we've provided a free 6 month beta period and are selling TableNinja to all our beta testers for $25.

I like the idea of a discount, but from a logistics perspective, I don't really know how we would go about verifying that TableNinja buyers had purchased FTS3 and were eligible for the discount or how we would integrate this into our automated ordering system.

Our goal with TableNinja is to provide a lightning fast, easy to use, and most importantly bug free tool that takes care of all the needs of PokerStars players. We've spent the last 6 months making incredible progress towards that goal with the help of the 2p2 community and our thousands of loyal beta testers. Furthermore we plan to keep pumping out great updates as fast as we can and are already well underway with our next major feature set. I only want users who feel they are getting an incredible value to buy TableNinja and ths is why we've offered a 100% free beta and will continue to offer a 100% full featured free trial so that users can completely evaluate the program and decide if its worth purchasing.

I know that for you TN is 15 bucks extra but I think that if you play a full session at your regular stakes in your usual games with both programs you will find that TableNinja is worth every penny as an investment in your poker career.

Thanks

Tarath
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05-15-2009 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sorrybadbeat
Can I purchase this with moneybookers or player transfer?I don't have a credit card!
We are doing everything we can to increase our payment processing options but being US based it is extremely difficult to accept most online payment processors.

For the time being I'm sorry to say that paypal and google checkout is the only options. Paypal will let you purchase from your bank account, you actually do not need a credit card so you might be able to get paypal to work.

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Originally Posted by Lyrrad
Probably you should have your server return some sort of error code and future versions of TableNinja return a readable error message so that people know to update the program. It probably would be easier for the users to have a customizable message from the server so that you can direct specific messages to particular versions.
If only we had been as smart as you when we made the early versions of TableNinja

All of the newest version now allow our server to return customizable messages (based on the version number). Unfortunately we didn't think of this when we designed the earlier versions and the only option we had was to give the message we did as we disabled each version.

Its not a mistake we'll make twice

Tarath

Last edited by tarath; 05-15-2009 at 02:48 AM.
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05-15-2009 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tarath
For whatever reason every time I install windows 7, it installs but then my machine will not boot so I have been unable to do my own testing on windows 7.

However, from talking to users who have gotten things working there are a few issues. First, you need to disable user account control. Second I believe from talking to a few users, that they actually were using the default windows 7 theme with "Aero" selected as the Vista theme in TableNinja.

Finally, what Table Layout do you have selected, on the setuo tab. It sounds a bit as if you might have no-overlap selected, but actually be using overlapping tables.

Hopefully one of our windows 7 users will stumble across this post of be able to give a more detailed suggestion. I may spend some time trying to get windows 7 on my laptop since putting it on my desktop seems impossible.

Hope this helps,

Tarath
I'm not able to use the 'Aero' theme, so I switched to one of the old-school Windows themes. I currently have it set up for "Overlapping" but have tried each of the different layouts, including a save and restart of Table Ninja in each, with no luck. I'm also using Hyper-Simple PS theme.

I'd really like to get this worked out before the 22nd so I can buy Table Ninja because I think this is an amazing tool.
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05-15-2009 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghosteh
I'm not able to use the 'Aero' theme, so I switched to one of the old-school Windows themes. I currently have it set up for "Overlapping" but have tried each of the different layouts, including a save and restart of Table Ninja in each, with no luck. I'm also using Hyper-Simple PS theme.

I'd really like to get this worked out before the 22nd so I can buy Table Ninja because I think this is an amazing tool.
Can you email me your TableNinja log file and your TNConfigAutoLoad file (both are located in your TableNinja install directory). I will take a look and see if I can help get things working.

Thanks

Tarath
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05-15-2009 , 12:27 PM
is it possible to recap all of the shortcuts in use on a single tab?
maybe not editable, but just to see all we are using?

great product, full version user now.
is there something of this quality for FT? I have not looked extensively.

thanx.
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05-15-2009 , 01:05 PM
Hey, sorry if this has been asked before. Just a quick question:
When I stack tables, will TableNinja automatically click the time bank (not just sit me back in when I'm sitting out) on tables that aren't on top of the stack and thus aren't visible?
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05-15-2009 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Hey, sorry if this has been asked before. Just a quick question:
When I stack tables, will TableNinja automatically click the time bank (not just sit me back in when I'm sitting out) on tables that aren't on top of the stack and thus aren't visible?
under annoyances tab,
check box to auto click time bank.
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05-15-2009 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Hey, sorry if this has been asked before. Just a quick question:
When I stack tables, will TableNinja automatically click the time bank (not just sit me back in when I'm sitting out) on tables that aren't on top of the stack and thus aren't visible?
Yes, in TableNinja, both the time bank clicker and the auto click I'm back (never sit out) feature both work on tables on that are not visible in both Windows XP and Windows Vista. They would be somewhat useless for stacking otherwise

Tarath
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05-15-2009 , 03:03 PM
Yes. That's great, thanks!
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05-15-2009 , 03:10 PM
Slick Theme support and SNG Opener ?
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05-15-2009 , 04:36 PM
I asked earlier about the possible discount for FTShortcuts users. I just tried their beta of PokerShorcuts and performance wise there is no comparison. Maybe they'll get there, but for now its laggy as hell compared to your product. I'm going to buy the full version of Ninja right now.

Any chance of incorporating a feature similar to their "displays" tab? Even if it started with simply being able to hover some text over the table.

edit: paypal sent.
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05-15-2009 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Myttazz
is it possible to recap all of the shortcuts in use on a single tab?
maybe not editable, but just to see all we are using?
Yeah, the TN equivalent of emacs 'c-h b'
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05-15-2009 , 05:46 PM
bought it, $25, money well spent
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05-15-2009 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FookFuLohan
Slick Theme support and SNG Opener ?
Both are things we're planning on coming out with, SNG Opener will probably come first.

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Originally Posted by Powers_That_Be
I asked earlier about the possible discount for FTShortcuts users. I just tried their beta of PokerShorcuts and performance wise there is no comparison. Maybe they'll get there, but for now its laggy as hell compared to your product. I'm going to buy the full version of Ninja right now.

Any chance of incorporating a feature similar to their "displays" tab? Even if it started with simply being able to hover some text over the table.

edit: paypal sent.
Thanks for purchasing!

We really focused our early development on speed, performance, and being as bug free as possible so I'm glad that has paid off for us.

We will definitely be adding some a variety display features in one of the next updates.

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Originally Posted by Myttazz
is it possible to recap all of the shortcuts in use on a single tab?
maybe not editable, but just to see all we are using?

great product, full version user now.
is there something of this quality for FT? I have not looked extensively.

thanx.
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Originally Posted by funkyj
Yeah, the TN equivalent of emacs 'c-h b'
Thanks again for purchasing

There are a lot of AHK scripts for FT, including daves, Bet Pot AHK, Fulltilt Shortcuts AHK and a few others. There is no non-AHK solution like TableNinja for FullTilt that I am aware of.

I like the idea of some kind of quick display that would let you see your settings for a given tab at a glance. I'll have to do some thinking on how we would display this or make this work as it could be a bit tricky, but it would be very cool.

You got 2 points for the emacs reference

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Originally Posted by kilmarta
bought it, $25, money well spent
Thanks for buying, it really means a lot to us that people value our hard work.

Thanks for all the feedback guys,

Tarath
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05-16-2009 , 03:45 AM
The fact that table in fore ground table under mouse jump mouse to table and bring to foreground are mutually exclusive makes this program lose alot of its steam imo.

Its nice once you finally get 24 tables going but as your table selecting this app is no better than using a few free ahks. If you like to table select while you play or do other things while 24 tabling the fact that you have to move your mouse over the table eliminates alot of the ease of use that this program is supposed to give.

The other option of bring table to the foreground isnt so great either as everytime you click on something that table is put in the background and this happens often while 24 tabling/table selecting.

The app needs to allow bring to foreground and move mouse to table to be enabled at the same time to eliminate this problem either that or figure out a way for the table to be brought to the foreground and kept there even if clicking on something else at the time. The latter would be prefferable as you wouldnt have to move your mouse.
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05-16-2009 , 04:23 AM
Hi, i stack my table's but for some reason sometimes when i go to click on an action when its my turn on the top table,another table pops up that requires action, then i have to find the table in the stack which needed action in the 1st place. I've checked all my setting on stars and ninja and they seem rite. Just cant understand that when its my turn to act another table pops up on top? Thanx
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05-16-2009 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponder
The fact that table in fore ground table under mouse jump mouse to table and bring to foreground are mutually exclusive makes this program lose alot of its steam imo.

Its nice once you finally get 24 tables going but as your table selecting this app is no better than using a few free ahks. If you like to table select while you play or do other things while 24 tabling the fact that you have to move your mouse over the table eliminates alot of the ease of use that this program is supposed to give.

The other option of bring table to the foreground isnt so great either as everytime you click on something that table is put in the background and this happens often while 24 tabling/table selecting.

The app needs to allow bring to foreground and move mouse to table to be enabled at the same time to eliminate this problem either that or figure out a way for the table to be brought to the foreground and kept there even if clicking on something else at the time. The latter would be prefferable as you wouldnt have to move your mouse.
The way I think that most people (including me) get around this problem is to use the "Cycle to first in line table" hotkey with the jump mouse to cycled tables option turned on.

This way when you use "table in foreground" and click on a non-table window you can always jump back to the action (and have your mouse move automatically to the urgent table) by hitting the "Cycle to first in line hotkey".

Similarly when you are using Table Under Mouse you can have the mouse jump when you want it to by using the cycle hotkey.

I think having the mouse jump be an option with Table Under Mouse is actually very dangerous and is a fair amount more complex than you might think. What if I am about to use an advanced action check/fold hotkey at table A, and then the instant before I hit the hotkey it becomes my turn at table B. Under your system the mouse jumps to table B and I accidently fold my hand at Table B.

If we force the Table in foreground to remain targetted, even when you select other windows, then you would not be able to type IMs, navigate the lobby, etc without potentially hitting hotkeys accidently. Particularly if you use mouse hotkeys this would prevent you from using those mouse buttons in other applications (or in the lobby) while playing which might be a real hassle.

Anyways this is a problem we have thought long and hard about and we have yet to come up with a perfect solution. Generally our approach has been to error on the side of caution chose setups that minimize the potential for misclicks/mistakes.

If your not using the "Cycle to first in line table" hotkey right now I highly recommend trying it. I use it constantly and find that it is a great solution for exactly the problem you are describing.

If you have other suggestions for how to improve things (or if you think my arguments for why the system your suggesting might be tough to handle are no good) definitely drop me a PM and we can discuss it more.

I really appreciate the feedback,

Thanks

Tarath

Last edited by tarath; 05-16-2009 at 04:35 AM.
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05-16-2009 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by timed@44
Hi, i stack my table's but for some reason sometimes when i go to click on an action when its my turn on the top table,another table pops up that requires action, then i have to find the table in the stack which needed action in the 1st place. I've checked all my setting on stars and ninja and they seem rite. Just cant understand that when its my turn to act another table pops up on top? Thanx
Hmm, that definitely should not happen. Does this problem only occur when you run TableNinja or is Stars doing this all the time? I seem to recall reading about this issue a while back with someone else and they had to contact stars support, but I cannot find the post now.

We actually NEVER change the order of your tables, except when you use a Cycle hotkey or use the "Bring to forground" option with Table Under Mouse.

If the problem is only happening when you run TableNinja then this is a bug I have never seen before and I would definitely like to check it out. If the problem is only occuring when you run TableNinja can you email me with your Table Ninja log file and your TNConfigAutoLoad file (both are located in your TableNinja install directory) and I will take a look and do my best to help.

Thanks!

Tarath
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05-16-2009 , 04:35 AM
I use a laptop and a desktop to play poker.
Do I need to buy tableninja twice or can I use the same registration code (like with PT)?
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05-16-2009 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UnTaku
I use a laptop and a desktop to play poker.
Do I need to buy tableninja twice or can I use the same registration code (like with PT)?
You only need to purchase once. We give out up to two codes with each purchase and tie your purchase to your email address.

If you already purchased and need your second code just email me at support@alxsoftware.com from the email your purchased from and I will send it to you.

If you make a new purchase you should get two purchase codes emailed to you automatically. Sometimes spam filters block this so feel free to email me if you don't get your codes within 24 hours of purchasing.

Thanks

Tarath
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