I just want to agree with an earlier post and request the same thing. He was talking about adding per street percentages to the bet pot hotkeys, like AHK had. I would love that very much. I think the default bets are great but the problem is that sometimes I switch my bet around by hitting my keys and try to find the size that feels right. For example

on the flop with AHK my middle mouse does 100%, right mouse does 90%, numpad + does 66%, numpad - does %50, numpad * does 75%, numpad / does 33%. So in my head I've got it down and I know which button does what percent, and I will think "how about half pot" and hit that button, and then go "no need bigger lets see 2/3" and hit that button, and so on. The problem with ninja is that while it default bets 90%, I don't have any other buttons set to 90%. This means that if I hit 2/3 pot to see if that works and decide I'd rather stick with 90%, I can't just hit a button to get back there. Now I have to scroll and in weird sized pots I have to do the math as well.

I don't think it would be very hard to add this request in. If you could just change the "Bet Pot Percentage Hotkeys" section of the "Pot betting tab" so that instead of having one % amount for each hotkey, giving 4 fields to fill in for all 4 streets that would be ideal. That way people can set all 4 streets to the same % if they want and it's exactly the same as it is now, or they can customize each button to have different percents on each street.

Thanks

I agree with you that we should add this in and that it shouldn't be too hard. I've added it to our list and we will get to work on it.

Tarath

Its tough to say because dealing with the lag issue may require a fair amount of back and forth with our tester group.

Its sounds like their is more going on than just a memory usage issue and we're going to have to attack this problem from several angles.

Tarath

This is a really great program. I have 3 Feature Requests that would improve it even more:

-I would like the whole wait for big bling and auto-post blind to be handled automatically by the program. For example, when I join a normal table, I would like it so that TableNinja clicks the wait for BB button, and checks the auto-post blind button.

-An integrated Bet Timer would be great. There is already an AHK script that does it, which can be found here. It would be cool if it could be integrated into the program.

-Lastly and most importantly, I would like another option for the Bet Sizing scroll. This feature already exists within Full Tilt Shortcuts. I use it to assign a hotkey to go up and down by 1 SB. I then map those hotkeys to the scroll wheel's toggle function, so when I tilt the mouse wheel left, my bet goes down by 1 SB, and when I tilt it right, it goes up by 1BB. I also have the scroll wheel for adjusting by BB, so I can get really precise with my bets. Here is an image of how it works within Full Tilt Shortcuts:




Thanks a lot.

Glad you like the program. The first two requests you mentioned are definitely things we would like to add in the future.

If I understand your third request correctly you just want the option to have the increment/decrement hotkeys and the scroll wheel change the betsize by different amounts? Thats something we could definitely do.

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

Tarath

On bet sizing: I play .10/.25 so 2x sb does not equal 1bb and I prefer my bet sizing to be multiples of the big blind. Table ninja should offer me the option to have the increments be multiples of the big blind...

I haven't gotten around to it yet but I will definitely be buying this. Once you fix the "normal speed" tables to behave like fast tables then I'll really be happy!

Thinking about how much time I would spend investigating, configuring and tweaking AHKs to handle the annoyances, Ninja is definitely worth the price. Once I go and give FullTilt a try I reckon I'll have to return to AHKs.

Mind you, I mean no criticism of the excellent AHK scripts out there. I love BetPot.ahk!

If you guys can get a handle on the lag issue, i'd be glad to try to replicate the blocked action bug, unfortunately I can't use the software when it limits my tables because it costs me.

I'll give the older version a shot tomorrow

I also had another problem with using the mouse wheel for bet sizing, for some reason the bet amounts were churning out some wacky amounts, for example during a SNG at the 10/20 blind levels it wanted to increment in 15s. Got even funkier at other times try to increase the bet fractions of chips.

Tried the older version had no problems with the bet sizes being wonky, any action being blocked or any lag with 31 tables running.

The only problem i had was that the "next in line" no longer functioned, flashed when i hit the corresponding hotkey but never popped up the active table.

Glad to hear the old version worked for you, and thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate the info.

For your next-in-line problem, in the old version if you are Stacking/Cascading in Vista you need to select the "scrape non-topmost" windows and be in an aero windows theme to use this feature.

Hope this helps, and thanks for the info,

Tarath

i'm using xp having problems with the old version stacking, but doesn't really matter if thats a prior version because it worked with the latest version.

As for the action blocking, we seem to have it nailed down, problem occurs when you use right muose button as to pop next table in line, it works normally if you right click in the PS window or on your tables, but when you right click when your mouse cursor is over other items it causes unexpected consequences some of which are action blocking for example

on both computers tested, right clicking with the mouse hovering over the desktop caused immediate crash of table ninja.

However, when right clicking over a IE window different results occured on each computer, on one computer action was blocked til the process was manually terminated. On the other computer it lagged for about 5 seconds, then threw a .net exception, then crashed.

If you use a different button, we tested Z and Tab, we had no problems regardless of mouse position.

having a problem with the bet scroll wheel function in the latest version,

blinds 50/100 + 10 ante using the scrolls wheel each bet increase goes up and down 67.5, even weirder results when i set it to increment by 2 sbs.

Now that I have used TN a bit, I too have seen occasional lag and I'm not running that many tables (e.g. 12 at most, probably 4-8). I have a pimp laptop: Lenovo T61, XP and 2GB of RAM. I have the performance monitor tab of the task manager running most of the time and I see that I have plenty of RAM when PokerStars, PT3 and TN are running.

For me the occasional lag has not made the game unplayable but it would be nice if it got fixed.

Wow thanks, this is extremely helpful. I cannot reproduce exactly what you're describing but I did get my action blocked for a few seconds once when I set Cycle to "First in line" to right click and right clicked in IE, I expect that with more tables or a laggier environment even stranger things might happen.

Would you be willing to email me your configuration file (from your tableninja install directory, its named TNConfigAutoLoad by default) at support@alxsoftware.com so that I can reproduce your exact settings and get this bug fixed?

Also it would be EXTREMELY helpful if you could get that .NET exception, click details and email me the "Exception text".

That will tell us the exact line of code where the problem occurred and might make this a quick fix.

Thanks so much for all this feedback, you are an awesome tester

Tarath

whats the deal with 2 table SNGs, it just exits me from the tourney when i get moved to the next table.

Unfortunately this is a bug in our tournament closer that some people are experiencing. Utill we release an update fixing the problem, I would recommend turning off the "Automatically close finished tournaments after x seconds" option if you play multitable tournaments.

Sorry for the bug, we hope to have it fixed soon and are working hard on it.

Tarath

Seems the bug in the tournament closer is that the timer only runs if it is currently the active table. Which means all the tournaments which get buried under a stack never close. Atleast that's what it seemed to me when i was messing with it yesterday.

A couple of comments: "sit out next hand hot key" should notice if the "sit out" button is currently active (normal speed table). Actually, if you fixed the normal speed tables so that they had fast table semantics this becomes a non-issue (i.e. I can it Ctrl-b to sit out next big blind rather than just uncheck the auto-post blind button).

I was playing something like 10-14 tables tonight and I definitely noticed some severe lag now and then. At times I started clicking on the "fold" button with my mouse because the fold hotkey was not getting the job done unless I pressed it 10 times.

I'm not unhappy -- it works well enough that I was able to play the tables I wanted but it would be great if there was never a lag problem

request

is it possible to have a hotkey to open/pop up main lobby?

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great software.
it would be great if there are more fixed bet box.

We have a pretty good idea to hopefully fix this issue as well as the issue with MTTs and the tournament closer. We're really hopefully that all these problems will be completely fixed in the next update. Thanks for the info every bit helps.

Right now the lag is one of our top priorities. We definitely don't want lag to ever be a problem for anyone whether its crippling lag or just an annoyance, so we're going to do everything we can to get this fixed asap.

Definitely this is a great ideaa and I've added it to our list.

We're going to look at clean ways that work nicely with our UI to potentially add unlimited % pot hotkeys, limper bet hotkeys, and fixed bet hotkeys. We're not really sure how easy this is going to be so it may be a while (or it may be impossible or very hard) but this is definitely something we would like to add.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone

Tarath

Another item for the wishlist: gimme a hotkey for closing a table.

BTW, I've decided I definitely like TN. I need to send you guys some monies ASAP .

PokerStars should pay you guys money to NOT implement this for Full Tilt (LOL). Now I have yet another reason not to try FT -- I don't want to have to learn and setup the AHKs I need there (OK, I already know how to set up BetPot but the table management stuff is essential for multitabling).

Thanks for the support, glad you're enjoying the program.

A close table hotkey is in the works, and will hopefully make it into the next update

Thanks!

Tarath

Major bug tarath!
Using beta version with Belkin n52te gamepad, Vista, HyperSimple, stacked....
Randomly, when i clicked fold, bet or all in key, action goes to all my tables.
Had to close TN to escape.
Very sure it wasn't the gamepad.
Advise please.

Thanks.

Wow we've never heard of anything like this. We hit the buttons on the PokerStars client by sending messages to individual tables by their windows handle so I honestly have no idea how this would be happen.

You've been using TableNinja for a while without problems, correct?

When you hit a hotkey does the gamepad button ever get stuck? I know you said you don't think its the gamepad, but it sounds very likely that one of the gamepad buttons is firing repeatedly and thus hitting the hotkey many times at all your tables rather than just once.

My gamepad does this on one of the buttons and I cannot use that button with TableNinja. To test this you can set your gamepad buttons to regular keyboard keys, open notepad, and press the buttons a lot and see if you ever get repeat presses. For example on my xbox controller, if I set the Right Trigger to "a" and press it in notepad every now and then I get a string of 5 or 6 'a's all at once for no apparent reason.

Anyways I would strongly recommend trying this experiment with notepad for a while (if the bug happens during poker once every 10 minutes I would try playing with your gamepad and notepad for 10 minutes) just to be absolutely sure its not an issue with the gamepad.

Also, has anything changed on your system, are you using a new AHK script, a new HUD, a new piece of software? Is the gamedpad new, or is the software to make it work with TableNinja new?

Also can you email me your log file and config file at support@alxsoftware.com.

Any info you can provide would really help us get to the bottom of this.

Thanks and sorry your having problems,

Tarath

You know what feature is badly needed.

I pretty much use starshotkey ONLy for the feature of having the tournament INFO (the one with the blind level, position etc). Load automatically when u highlight the table..

Would this be hard to program??