Change your regional settings in windows to English, that has fixed most of these types of problems in the past.

Despite the "Location: Brazil", which is correct BTW, my Windows Vista and all settings therein are English. Dates, currency, you name it.

Hey,

We calculate the pot as a minraise plus the amount of money bet by the other players. I am reasonably certain that this is the standard method.

For example if you are on the button and another player opens to 3BB the betsize would be a minraise to 5bb + 3BB + 1.5BB from the blinds which equals 9.5BB. If instead you would like the 3bet size in this case to be 10.5BBs just set your preflop percentage bet to 110%.

This is the standard way that fulltilt and other sites calculate the potsize. You may be used to seeing the number 10.5BB because when someone opens to pot (3.5BB) a potsized 3b is to 10.50BB.

We do handle things slightly differently when you are in the blinds than other prograns do (Fulltilts pot button always makes smaller bets from the big blind). We just use the same minraise + potsize algorithm from every position because we feel that if anything people want to 3bet bigger from OOP, not smaller.

If you feel that your 3bets need to be bigger you can use the x BB + y BB per limper default bet preflop and then set your preflop percentage default bet to a number bigger than 100 (110% sounds like what you want). TableNinja will then use the limper bet size in unopened pots and the percentage bet-size for 3betting.

Let me know if this helps,

Thanks,

Tarath

As mappedout said everyone else who has had this type of problem just needed to go to the control panel, open the Regional and Language Options and select English as the "Current Format".

Since you are sure you have already set your regional settings to english this is a new bug that we've never encountered before and I will need a bit more information to start figuring it out.

Can you email me at support@alxsoftware.com with a screen shot of the problem occuring, a list of any other AHK scripts you are running with tableninja, your tableninja config file and your tableninja log file from a day where the problem occured (both the config and the log files are in your TableNinja install directory).

Hopefully that info will give me a sense of whats going on and we will be able to figure out the problem and get it fixed.

Thanks,

Tarath

That's wrong I'm afraid.
A pot size raise means exactly that, so in the eg. given put 3BB in the pot then raise the pot another 7.5 = 10.5

Will do. And I just went into the Regional settings and confirmed what I said.

I understand exactly what you're saying and you are correct and thanks for being so observant . The pot if we called would be 7.5BB so to make our opponent call a pot sized bet we need to raise 7.5BB to 10.5BB. What TableNinja does is to add a min-raise to the size of the current pot.

For bets and raises they are identical.

For reraises where you were the original bettor or for 3bets from the big blind) they are also the same thing.

When you are re-raising and were not the orginal bettor (ie cold reraising postflop or 3betting in position preflop) to compute the pot-sized bet exactly in every possible case we would need to scrape the Call button text to determine how much we need to call. If anyone knows a better way to do this and I am missing something please let me know

We may decide to do this in the future but we have not yet. It would require reading a number off the call button (and would be different for different themes and the number displays in different places depending on how big it is).

What we could do is add 1BB to 3bets where you were not the big blind. This would deal with every preflop situation except for when you are cold 4-betting (ie you are 4betting and were not the initial pfr). If you are cold re-raising postflop you would still need to handle the situation manually.

Anyways we know what we do isn't perfect, but with the default bets whatever solution we use needs to be fast and efficient. We would definitely welcome suggestions if people have them.

Thanks,

Tarath.

Thanks for your explanation Tarath, I can see now why this is a tricky issue. I'm using a gamepad to play and I've been getting around it by using a joystick to increment/decrement by 2 small blinds and adjusting the raise amount myself. It would just be nice not to have to do this of course.

Another way of looking at pot-sized reraises is that they offer the opponent exactly 2:1 on a call. I don't know if this is any help though.

On a related note, I'm using JoyToKey to convert button presses on my gamepad to keystrokes. It works really well, except that for some reason it doesn't seem to recognise the button on the left in the shape of a cross (sorry, not sure what the correct name is, I'm not a gamer ). It's the button which you can click in the north, south, east and west positions and north-east etc, not the joystick.

When incrementing the bet size I'm currently having to use the joystick to do this but it's a bit 'hit and miss' because the joystick is multi-directional, and I'd rather use the cross button. Any idea how I do this using JoyToKey?

Thanks

Great product by the way, I'll definitely be buying.

The cross is called the D-Pad. Actually I preferred it to navigate between tables, when playing from a stack, since the actual joystick was imprecise pretty often, causing me to waste time trying to activate the correct table. I have it equate up with "=", and down with "-" in TN. As to software, I don't know JoyToKey, but can confirm that Xpadder, oft recommended in 2+2, works very well.

@Tarath - I fixed the issue. Too many scripts.

Great, I'm glad to hear it

Thanks Albert, I'll give Xpadder a try. JoyToKey seems to work perfectly FWIW, but it doesn't seem to have the capability to program the D-Pad for some reason. Or if it does, I can't find it

I am away from home and working on my laptop, and unfortunately I don't have my joystick with me. JoyToKey won't even open without a joystick plugged in so I can't even open the program and try and look through the settings to help fix this issue. It just pops up an error saying no joystick detected and closes which is very irritating.

I know there are a number of people who read the thread regularly and use joysticks so hopefully some of them will chime in with an answer to this. I don't know how to deal with this off the top of my head and won't be able to play around with things till I get home on monday.

For now you could try xpadder as Albert Silver suggested (quoted below). I have heard good things about it from one or two TN users, but I have never used it personally so please be careful and try it out at play money.

Hope this helps, and I'm sorry I can't do more until I get back from vacation.

Tarath

Feature Request:


- Automatic registration for SnG's last registered for

and

- keep number of concurrend running SnG's equal to X

I don't know if this is asked before, but I would ike to see this option very much,

thank you.

best regards DrKK

I saw on some video on cardrunners where it appeared the guy clicked a hotkey that made a table with a big decision move off to the side while the others stayed stacked or whatever which was awesome. Can Table ninja do that?

Not yet, but its been requested i believe.

Can we get a feature to auto join tables with certain stakes/players sitting and auto leave tables we're on when they drop below a certain number of players?

Does anyone here use tableninja for stars while using full tilt shortcuts for ftp? I am wondering if they cause any conflicts or if anyone has experienced problems while using them simultaneously.

This is definitely something we'd like to add to TableNinja eventually,

We are planning to make a full featured SnG opener but it will not be in the near future.

This is also on our list, we may get to it reasonably soon but I can't make any promises

This would be a great feature, but it is a tricky issue, I would need to do some very careful research into whether this violates the Stars TOS. I am pretty sure that it would and that Stars would not allow this. We will definitely never offer any features are against the PokerStars rules.

Thanks for the suggestions guys,

Tarath

I am not asking for a buddylist or anyting. I just want to auto leave when a table gets say, HU or 3 handed and auto sit at tables that are playing 5/6 handed.

Yeah this would be a great feature, I will look into it when we are planning our next update.

I think its likely that Stars would have no problem with it.

Tarath

Hey awesome program! I did notice something that may be a bug.

When I fireup table Ninja and then start loading up tables everything is fine until I attempt to manually resize a table to tile them on my screen. I tried 3 times in a row and each time when attempting to resize the first table my computer froze.

My OS is:

Windows Vista 64bit

If you would like me to forward you the exact table ninja settings I was using when experience this issue feel free to PM me your email.

Aside from that this program keeps getting more and more amazing with each update. Making my 24tabling sessions much more convenient and fluid.

Feature request:

toggle on/off autopost blinds

so that when turning off sit out with hotkey the blinds are not automatically posted, i prefer to post them as BB.

tx

Thanks for the bug report.

This is a bug that one or two other people have encountered in Vista 64. The next update should fix the problem, unfortunately until then there is no fix for the issue except to turn off frames. We're hoping to have the next update out very soon so you shouldn't have to wait long.

Thanks agian,

Tarath

Its possible that I am not understanding exactly what you want, but the annoyances tab has an auto-post blind that will toggle the checkbox on/off.

Let me know if this is not what you're looking for,

tarath