[UTILITY] TableNinja - Hotkeys and Utilities for PokerStars
08-31-2009
, 05:22 PM
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A couple of questions that may have been covered, but I am unsure of how to specifically find them using the search feature:
1. In the 'Setup' Tab, what type of 'Table Layout' should you select if you stack, cascade, and tile, sometimes all within the same set/session?
2. Is there a way of keeping newly opened sit&gos from popping up into the foreground and blocking a table currently needing action?
For example if I am playing continuous and I have 20 tables going, I bust on one and Ninja registers me for another and it pops up. Well this new table usually pops up (twice) on the top of my stack blocking my ability to click the current table needing action, then I have to alt+tab through my tables and find it or wait for a second table needing action so that PokerStars begins to flash and I can find a table needing action. I would prefer the new table to go to the back of my stack.
1. In the 'Setup' Tab, what type of 'Table Layout' should you select if you stack, cascade, and tile, sometimes all within the same set/session?
2. Is there a way of keeping newly opened sit&gos from popping up into the foreground and blocking a table currently needing action?
For example if I am playing continuous and I have 20 tables going, I bust on one and Ninja registers me for another and it pops up. Well this new table usually pops up (twice) on the top of my stack blocking my ability to click the current table needing action, then I have to alt+tab through my tables and find it or wait for a second table needing action so that PokerStars begins to flash and I can find a table needing action. I would prefer the new table to go to the back of my stack.
For (1) I would chose stacked, everything will work properly in all layouts if you chose stacked although some optimizations won't be made.
For (2) Unforunately we cannot stop Stars from popping up new tables, but if you try using the "Cycle to first in line" hotkey on the "Table Control" tab this will instantly jump you back to the table you need to act at next so you won't have to alt-tab through your tables. Give this a try and I think things will be much much better
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Thank you.
What i was referring to was an option/hotkey to automatically avoid the table popping up with the options 'post BB' or 'sit-out' on normal speed tables, and rather select 'sit-out' automatically. ( i understand table pops-up nevertheless, but atleast one can avoid having to select an option, thus save a click or misclick post BB again )
Thank you. I wasnt aware of this option (more like, i didnt try how it works). It was part of one of my requests.
Though,it would be great if the software could somehow automatically close the table if sitting out on BB, after ' sit-out next BB' option was selected. Also, this way it might be able to avoid auto-closing table when timed out(or any misclicks on X).
What i was referring to was an option/hotkey to automatically avoid the table popping up with the options 'post BB' or 'sit-out' on normal speed tables, and rather select 'sit-out' automatically.
( i understand table pops-up nevertheless, but atleast one can avoid having to select an option, thus save a click or misclick post BB again )Thank you. I wasnt aware of this option (more like, i didnt try how it works). It was part of one of my requests.
Though,it would be great if the software could somehow automatically close the table if sitting out on BB, after ' sit-out next BB' option was selected. Also, this way it might be able to avoid auto-closing table when timed out(or any misclicks on X).
Adding closing to the sit out next BB option is a great idea
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Only just read this, and it is something that bothers me a little, too, as I'd like to know if I have just won a DON or busted out.
Tarath, I read that it won't be possible for you to fix this easily, so perhaps we could find some work-around? If it is impossible to keep the message open, maybe could you add an option to do something that tells the player the result, like a green frame when we finished the tournament ITM or something like that?
Also, would it be possible to implement an option to have finished tournaments moved to another location automatically before closing them? I play in two stacks, one for DONs that are in the PoF phase and one for those in earlier phases. Most tournaments of course end in the PoF phase, and if they finish and I don't move them manually PokerStars will open the next new tournament in my PoF stack which can (and already has) lead to costly mix-ups (an atc push from the SB is not profitable when the blinds are 10/20).
Tarath, I read that it won't be possible for you to fix this easily, so perhaps we could find some work-around? If it is impossible to keep the message open, maybe could you add an option to do something that tells the player the result, like a green frame when we finished the tournament ITM or something like that?
Also, would it be possible to implement an option to have finished tournaments moved to another location automatically before closing them? I play in two stacks, one for DONs that are in the PoF phase and one for those in earlier phases. Most tournaments of course end in the PoF phase, and if they finish and I don't move them manually PokerStars will open the next new tournament in my PoF stack which can (and already has) lead to costly mix-ups (an atc push from the SB is not profitable when the blinds are 10/20
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TableNinja never counts the number of open tables for the Sit-n-go opener, TableNinja counts the number of tournaments it has registered you for. If we counted the number of open tables then we would register for too many tournaments if those tournaments happened to fill up slowly.
So if you can email me some details about exactly what you're trying to do and exactly whats happening I'll do my best to help you.
Thanks
Tarath
08-31-2009
, 09:39 PM
09-01-2009
, 01:21 AM
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Feature(s) request (for cash games) :
1 ) In a stacked (table) configuration it is tough to pick out all those tables which we are sitting out from ( in cash games, especially 'fast tables'). These tables does pop up, but might take valuable time closing while, say, 24 tabling. If a hotkey could take all 'sitting out' tables to a side (space set by dummy table, maybe), it'll be great. also, this way it'll be lot easier to differentiate 'timed out' tables from those which we intentionally sat out (say, using 'sit out next blind'). (or maybe, close all those tables that we are sitting out while we were supposed to be in BB .. sorry, if asking too much ?
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2) Filtering tables by using 'number of players currently on table'. eg: for 6max, filtering out all other tables but those with 5 players.
- I understand we can arrange the tables by 'number of players' to buy-in to tables with 5 players, but then it'll be tough table selecting based on , say, average pot or players per flop etc. (if a similar filter option for 'avg pot' or 'num of players per pot' could be made, even better..)
3) Auto-closing of tables that are full. I click on a table with 5 players and by the time I get to the table the seat is already taken and another table pops-up for action. It'll be great if you add an option to auto-close such tables.
4) An auto-buyin (i.e automatically opens pre-set number of tables from those available in lobby) option, similar to autoregister for tourneys. Though, this might not be as useful without an advanced filter, esp for those who table-select.
5) Hotkeys to switch between 'custom table layouts'
Thanks
ps: I'm sorry if any of these features already exist on TN. Would be great if someone could help me
1 ) In a stacked (table) configuration it is tough to pick out all those tables which we are sitting out from ( in cash games, especially 'fast tables'). These tables does pop up, but might take valuable time closing while, say, 24 tabling. If a hotkey could take all 'sitting out' tables to a side (space set by dummy table, maybe), it'll be great. also, this way it'll be lot easier to differentiate 'timed out' tables from those which we intentionally sat out (say, using 'sit out next blind'). (or maybe, close all those tables that we are sitting out while we were supposed to be in BB .. sorry, if asking too much ?
)2) Filtering tables by using 'number of players currently on table'. eg: for 6max, filtering out all other tables but those with 5 players.
- I understand we can arrange the tables by 'number of players' to buy-in to tables with 5 players, but then it'll be tough table selecting based on , say, average pot or players per flop etc. (if a similar filter option for 'avg pot' or 'num of players per pot' could be made, even better..
)3) Auto-closing of tables that are full. I click on a table with 5 players and by the time I get to the table the seat is already taken and another table pops-up for action. It'll be great if you add an option to auto-close such tables.
4) An auto-buyin (i.e automatically opens pre-set number of tables from those available in lobby) option, similar to autoregister for tourneys. Though, this might not be as useful without an advanced filter, esp for those who table-select.
5) Hotkeys to switch between 'custom table layouts'
Thanks
ps: I'm sorry if any of these features already exist on TN. Would be great if someone could help me
A couple of additions I could think of:
1. Sit out next BB and close table hotkey. Another for the same function for all tables.
2. Clean up all inactive tables hotkey. As mentioned, "cleaning up" takes some time and effort while still playing, so a button takes any window that hasn't come to the front in the last 2 minutes or more (at least in a cash game) could be assumed inactive and therefore close it down. Maybe not good for tournament players if they are on break.
3. The core problem behind points 1 and 2 for me is I like to have at least a minimum amount of tables open, but can only judge how many that is by seeing how many Pokerstars tables are open in the taskbar. That could be skewed if 3 of the 12 tables I see open are actually sitting out or I'm not even on the table. So maybe even a popup could show briefly (say a popup warning from the taskbar) when TN thinks my active table count has changed and show the new number it thinks are active. For me, any tables that has popped up to the front in the last 1-2 minutes is currently active, but that would of course change depending on whether you are playing cash games or MTT's. Either way it's just an indication, and when I see it I'm alerted that I need to "clean up" and potentially fire up some more tables. Perhaps at that point TN could move "inactive" tables aside or close them all down.
4. When a new table pops up, it obviously takes focus of our active table. When you go back to that table with a hotkey, it moves the mouse to the Fold button or something. I have issues with this as my stacked tables aren't 100% on top of each other, so the next table that pops up might have the mouse now over HUD stats, which then pops up detailed stats. So when a new table opens, it's annoying enough that I can't do anything for 2 seconds, but then when I can I have to move the mouse to the centre of the tables.
5. I might just be missing this, but is there a way to click the Wait for next BB button on (non-fast) tables when you have to click the option. Ideally, auto click wait for BB, then tick auto post blind when BB does come around, or if that's too hard, when you click wait for BB (with a hotkey), tick auto post blind when post BB question is asked.
My motivation for the final two are losing all need for a mouse while playing.
09-01-2009
, 05:08 AM
that it can be implemented in next update, but cant avoid the table pop-up ?
I understand that table popping up is unavoidable in all cases, but we can save a few mouse-clicks if all options such as wait for BB can be dealt with. Looking forward to the updates
But happy to see that am not the only seeing these as a solution to the troubles one has while multitabling cash games. 4 - You can use TN for stacking tables perfectly on top of each other, using the dummy tables. I've had trouble in adjusting dummy tables to size other than the minimum possible on pokerstars. Sadly, tarath couldnt reproduce the problem.
In TN you can set a hotkey for a dummy table and use that hotkey on each table to stack them perfectly on top of each other. Obv, save the configuration in PS.
I've heard of other progs such as starsplanner etc which can be used to do the same things, but havnt tried that as yet.
09-01-2009
, 01:34 PM
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So I run 25 SNGs on PStars at a time keeping them all stacked. I primarily use TN for the auto-timebank and automaticly closing the SNGs I had busted. But I keep running into the following problem:
Say I am running a set of 25 stacked. When I bust one.....it will immediately jump forward....i can see that i busted....and i have it set to close it within 1 second. It will leave the screen and go back to the previous table needing acted on. BUT.....once I act on that previous table.....it doesnt jump to the next table needing action and instead stays on that table I just acted on.....thus requiring me to click on my Stars tab and find a highlated table to act on. Once I do this everything goes right back into rotation and is fine. Is there any way to correct this? As I sometimes bust 5-6 in a row and it is extremely annoying to have to keep clicking on the stars tab to find a table needing action.
Say I am running a set of 25 stacked. When I bust one.....it will immediately jump forward....i can see that i busted....and i have it set to close it within 1 second. It will leave the screen and go back to the previous table needing acted on. BUT.....once I act on that previous table.....it doesnt jump to the next table needing action and instead stays on that table I just acted on.....thus requiring me to click on my Stars tab and find a highlated table to act on. Once I do this everything goes right back into rotation and is fine. Is there any way to correct this? As I sometimes bust 5-6 in a row and it is extremely annoying to have to keep clicking on the stars tab to find a table needing action.
I hope this helps.
TableNinja works with all varieties of Omaha and Hold'em but thats it.
So it will work for O8 and PLO but not for Razz/Stud/Draw.
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Requests :
1) Can you add a 10s delay (optional) while a fast table pops-up on sitting-out, through having selected the sit-out next BB... At the moment, such tables pops-up and even before we could use the hotkey to close this table another table with pending action pops-up. At times, this leads to closing the tables that pops-up instead of the tables that we are actually sitting-out from.
Obv, such an option is only useful until the auto-close on sitting-out-next-BB is implemented. So, if you are working on that please ignore this request.
2) After we minimise a table with action pending (so as to work on a table beneath), using hotkey 'cycle to "first in line"' does not work. Hotkey doesnt activate the next table with action and, for me, cursor moves to the corner of the screen. The player has to manually click one of the tables-with-pending-action and then, the minimised table pops-up next.
Is there a way to get around this ? Say, avoid having to manually select a table and get a hotkey to bring the 2nd-in-line table forward .. or something similar ?
Regards
1) Can you add a 10s delay (optional) while a fast table pops-up on sitting-out, through having selected the sit-out next BB... At the moment, such tables pops-up and even before we could use the hotkey to close this table another table with pending action pops-up. At times, this leads to closing the tables that pops-up instead of the tables that we are actually sitting-out from.
Obv, such an option is only useful until the auto-close on sitting-out-next-BB is implemented. So, if you are working on that please ignore this request.
2) After we minimise a table with action pending (so as to work on a table beneath), using hotkey 'cycle to "first in line"' does not work. Hotkey doesnt activate the next table with action and, for me, cursor moves to the corner of the screen. The player has to manually click one of the tables-with-pending-action and then, the minimised table pops-up next.
Is there a way to get around this ? Say, avoid having to manually select a table and get a hotkey to bring the 2nd-in-line table forward .. or something similar ?
Regards
For (2) unfortunately, once you've minimized a table TableNinja can no longer gather any information from that table (until it is unminimized again). What this means is that TableNinja cannot detect that it is your turn at that table so the Cycle to first in line hotkey doesn't work because TableNinja doesn't know that the minimized table needs action.
You could try using a "Set Table Aside" hotkey on that table instead of minimizing it. My guess is making it small and sending it to a distant part of your screen is just as effective and since you can do this with a hotkey its probably easier also.
Let me know if that helps.
Unfortunately I don't think this is possible (I have no idea how to go about something like this).
Thanks guys,
Tarath
09-01-2009
, 01:43 PM
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+1 to this post. I was going to come and mention a couple of things, but was beaten to it. All of these features would really help cash game players.
A couple of additions I could think of:
1. Sit out next BB and close table hotkey. Another for the same function for all tables.
2. Clean up all inactive tables hotkey. As mentioned, "cleaning up" takes some time and effort while still playing, so a button takes any window that hasn't come to the front in the last 2 minutes or more (at least in a cash game) could be assumed inactive and therefore close it down. Maybe not good for tournament players if they are on break.
3. The core problem behind points 1 and 2 for me is I like to have at least a minimum amount of tables open, but can only judge how many that is by seeing how many Pokerstars tables are open in the taskbar. That could be skewed if 3 of the 12 tables I see open are actually sitting out or I'm not even on the table. So maybe even a popup could show briefly (say a popup warning from the taskbar) when TN thinks my active table count has changed and show the new number it thinks are active. For me, any tables that has popped up to the front in the last 1-2 minutes is currently active, but that would of course change depending on whether you are playing cash games or MTT's. Either way it's just an indication, and when I see it I'm alerted that I need to "clean up" and potentially fire up some more tables. Perhaps at that point TN could move "inactive" tables aside or close them all down.
4. When a new table pops up, it obviously takes focus of our active table. When you go back to that table with a hotkey, it moves the mouse to the Fold button or something. I have issues with this as my stacked tables aren't 100% on top of each other, so the next table that pops up might have the mouse now over HUD stats, which then pops up detailed stats. So when a new table opens, it's annoying enough that I can't do anything for 2 seconds, but then when I can I have to move the mouse to the centre of the tables.
5. I might just be missing this, but is there a way to click the Wait for next BB button on (non-fast) tables when you have to click the option. Ideally, auto click wait for BB, then tick auto post blind when BB does come around, or if that's too hard, when you click wait for BB (with a hotkey), tick auto post blind when post BB question is asked.
My motivation for the final two are losing all need for a mouse while playing.
A couple of additions I could think of:
1. Sit out next BB and close table hotkey. Another for the same function for all tables.
2. Clean up all inactive tables hotkey. As mentioned, "cleaning up" takes some time and effort while still playing, so a button takes any window that hasn't come to the front in the last 2 minutes or more (at least in a cash game) could be assumed inactive and therefore close it down. Maybe not good for tournament players if they are on break.
3. The core problem behind points 1 and 2 for me is I like to have at least a minimum amount of tables open, but can only judge how many that is by seeing how many Pokerstars tables are open in the taskbar. That could be skewed if 3 of the 12 tables I see open are actually sitting out or I'm not even on the table. So maybe even a popup could show briefly (say a popup warning from the taskbar) when TN thinks my active table count has changed and show the new number it thinks are active. For me, any tables that has popped up to the front in the last 1-2 minutes is currently active, but that would of course change depending on whether you are playing cash games or MTT's. Either way it's just an indication, and when I see it I'm alerted that I need to "clean up" and potentially fire up some more tables. Perhaps at that point TN could move "inactive" tables aside or close them all down.
4. When a new table pops up, it obviously takes focus of our active table. When you go back to that table with a hotkey, it moves the mouse to the Fold button or something. I have issues with this as my stacked tables aren't 100% on top of each other, so the next table that pops up might have the mouse now over HUD stats, which then pops up detailed stats. So when a new table opens, it's annoying enough that I can't do anything for 2 seconds, but then when I can I have to move the mouse to the centre of the tables.
5. I might just be missing this, but is there a way to click the Wait for next BB button on (non-fast) tables when you have to click the option. Ideally, auto click wait for BB, then tick auto post blind when BB does come around, or if that's too hard, when you click wait for BB (with a hotkey), tick auto post blind when post BB question is asked.
My motivation for the final two are losing all need for a mouse while playing.
The sit out next BB hotkeys are on the annoyances tab and the close table(s) hotkeys are on the opening/closing tab.(2) is an excellent idea, I've added it to my list
(4) I think letting the user pick the mouse jump location should be quite managable
(5) The next update will have this (we already have it working in the version our test group is using.
Thanks
Tarath
