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07-15-2018 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
Okay. I'm looking into it and will message you when I figure out what is up.

Okay, thanks. I use SportsBetting, just in case you need to know.
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07-15-2018 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
It is hard to offer advice on an older version of the software. Do you definitely have pop to front turned off in the client settings? Also, are you running the client as admin?

I honestly would recommend updating even though you don't want to do it. I don't think adjusting delay settings will help any with losing focus. Perhaps it is losing focus to your hud or the TT HUD somehow. Go to Settings/HUD/Misc and turn on Disable HUD.

You can set a hotkey for Most Urgent in Queue to global by clicking on the gear next to the hotkey until we figure out what the problem is.
Ok Daniel, I think I figured out the cause of the problem. First of all, Hotkey for Most Urgent in Queue has been set to global for years now, Pop to front is turned off in client settings and all clients are set to be run as admin. I disabled the HUD in TT settings, no difference. I also downloaded and tried latest beta version (1.6.1), also made no difference.

But like I said, I have figured the source of the problem The source of the problem is the POS 888 software. Essentially what happens is that 888 tables for some unbeknownst reason silently pop up at random times and steal focus.

I know because with both PS and 888 tournament tables open, I tried cycling forward and backwards. Once I closed the 888 client, I had no problems cycling forward and backward on PS tables. Once I closed PS and opened 888 tournament tables, cycling forward and backward became buggy again; once focus was stolen and I wasn't able to cycle through tables, as soon as I clicked on a table, I was able to cycle through until the problem arose again. Once 888 tournaments went to a break and there were no active tables, I was able to cycle through tables without a hitch.

I don't know what kind of solution you can come up with. Maybe you can alter some of 888 settings on Table Tamer or the way it deals with 888.

One solution that springs into mind is if you give TT users the option of having an automatic mouse click on an empty part of the screen in regular time intervals. That may be dangerous because it might cause bugs in other programs however. There should be some thought put behind it and users should be careful in deploying it.
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07-15-2018 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
Yes. Please read the setup guide.
https://tabletamer.com/joomla/index....6-global-poker
This type of software is not allowed on Global Poker.
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07-15-2018 , 02:07 PM
It would be great if you could update the BetOnline set up guide because it no longer looks the same when right clicking on the Betonline poker client, Properties, Compatibility. It now has different options than what your setup guide shows. Thanks
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07-16-2018 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tradenine
Ok, I deleted and re-added Ignition under Site Setup, put the scan type to GetPixel, and it's now mostly working. Statuses are changing correctly, but it doesn't always go from one urgent table to the next when there's more than one table requiring action.

I had 3 sngs open, and one of them would never/rarely cycle forward after action was taken on the first other table requiring action.

Then I had 2 tables open and this would sometimes happen too. I was in the middle of hands on both tables, acted on the first and focus switched to the second like it should. Meanwhile, action was on me on the first table again, and when I acted on the second table, focus DID NOT shift back to the first table (now requiring action) again.
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Windows 7. I've played more now, and if there's more than one urgent table, focus rarely shifts after action is taken on the first one.
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Pokecancer, I'm still having the problems with focus not working on Ign as described previously. Only the first table requiring focus pops up - any tables requiring action behind it don't take focus when action is taken on the first urgent table. I'm almost always multitabling and I have to use the mouse to click each table individually, before I can use any hotkeys. Can we fix this?

Pokecancer - I have been dealing with this problem for the better part of a year. Can we fix this?

I just updated to the latest stable version of TT and redid everything - deleted and re-added Ignition, checked table statuses (working correctly) - but the problem remains. I've been messing with settings for the past 2 hours to no avail. (FWIW I tried changing the scan settings from getpixel to the other ones, however whenever I start TT again it reverts to getpixel.)
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07-16-2018 , 02:33 PM
I would be glad to help you. Please add me on skype so we can do a remote session. My skype name is the same as here.
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07-16-2018 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by leviathan74
Ok Daniel, I think I figured out the cause of the problem. First of all, Hotkey for Most Urgent in Queue has been set to global for years now, Pop to front is turned off in client settings and all clients are set to be run as admin. I disabled the HUD in TT settings, no difference. I also downloaded and tried latest beta version (1.6.1), also made no difference.

But like I said, I have figured the source of the problem The source of the problem is the POS 888 software. Essentially what happens is that 888 tables for some unbeknownst reason silently pop up at random times and steal focus.

I know because with both PS and 888 tournament tables open, I tried cycling forward and backwards. Once I closed the 888 client, I had no problems cycling forward and backward on PS tables. Once I closed PS and opened 888 tournament tables, cycling forward and backward became buggy again; once focus was stolen and I wasn't able to cycle through tables, as soon as I clicked on a table, I was able to cycle through until the problem arose again. Once 888 tournaments went to a break and there were no active tables, I was able to cycle through tables without a hitch.

I don't know what kind of solution you can come up with. Maybe you can alter some of 888 settings on Table Tamer or the way it deals with 888.

One solution that springs into mind is if you give TT users the option of having an automatic mouse click on an empty part of the screen in regular time intervals. That may be dangerous because it might cause bugs in other programs however. There should be some thought put behind it and users should be careful in deploying it.
I'll put some thought into it later and get back to you.
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07-16-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by quaid745
This type of software is not allowed on Global Poker.
That is stated in the guide. Use at your own risk.
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07-16-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by huaw1ad
It would be great if you could update the BetOnline set up guide because it no longer looks the same when right clicking on the Betonline poker client, Properties, Compatibility. It now has different options than what your setup guide shows. Thanks
I will soon.
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07-16-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
That is stated in the guide. Use at your own risk.
Ok, I'm guessing two plus two will not allow this thread to exist once they know you are providing software that is illegal, especially since Global has an advertised thread on this site. I will find out for you.
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07-16-2018 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by quaid745
Ok, I'm guessing two plus two will not allow this thread to exist once they know you are providing software that is illegal, especially since Global has an advertised thread on this site. I will find out for you.
Also on upswing and pocketfives, since I'm sure they would not want to be associated with that.
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07-16-2018 , 08:39 PM
Well, I don't see how it is illegal, but I will disable it for now. If 2+2 has a problem with it, I will leave it disabled. While you are at it, why don't you report stack and tile and placemint because people use those on the site also.

Update: I removed it from the program and deleted the version that had it.

Last edited by pokecancer; 07-16-2018 at 09:08 PM.
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07-16-2018 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
Well, I don't see how it is illegal, but I will disable it for now. If 2+2 has a problem with it, I will leave it disabled. While you are at it, why don't you report stack and tile and placemint because people use those on the site also.

Update: I removed it from the program and deleted the version that had it.
Awesome.
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07-18-2018 , 03:54 AM
Hello!
Customer 888. I configure TT. The client has set up a guide. 888 and TT start from the administrator. In the antivirus (Kaspersky) added an exception - 888.exe

When I run the TT together and 888 - 888 crash.
What else can I do?
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07-18-2018 , 01:33 PM
Ok Daniel, a couple more observations about my problem.

On Sunday, I ended up one tabling just on 888. I still lost focus occasionally. This may mean there's something about the lobby, not other tables stealing focus.

I tried reproducing the problem in cash play money tables, I didn't encounter it. Then, I tried play money tournaments and I did encounter it. After that I tried real money cash games and I did not encounter it. I tried SNGs and I did. In other words, it probably is something to do with the tournament/sng lobby.

Finally, I changed setting on TT from no focus to table under mouse. As long as table is under mouse, the problem may arise one in a blue moon (very rarely), but definitely not as often when TT is set to have no focus on tables. In retrospect that makes sense.

Hopefully, that's useful feedback. In the meantime I think that switching the setting to table under mouse is a workable temporary solution.
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07-18-2018 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by player777
Hello!
Customer 888. I configure TT. The client has set up a guide. 888 and TT start from the administrator. In the antivirus (Kaspersky) added an exception - 888.exe

When I run the TT together and 888 - 888 crash.
What else can I do?
Are you on the beta version of TT?

If so, there are 2 things you can try.
1) Download the 888 software from the website. It didn't automatically update for me.
2) Use the stable version of TT.

Please let me know if that resolves your problem.
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07-18-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by leviathan74
Ok Daniel, a couple more observations about my problem.

On Sunday, I ended up one tabling just on 888. I still lost focus occasionally. This may mean there's something about the lobby, not other tables stealing focus.

I tried reproducing the problem in cash play money tables, I didn't encounter it. Then, I tried play money tournaments and I did encounter it. After that I tried real money cash games and I did not encounter it. I tried SNGs and I did. In other words, it probably is something to do with the tournament/sng lobby.

Finally, I changed setting on TT from no focus to table under mouse. As long as table is under mouse, the problem may arise one in a blue moon (very rarely), but definitely not as often when TT is set to have no focus on tables. In retrospect that makes sense.

Hopefully, that's useful feedback. In the meantime I think that switching the setting to table under mouse is a workable temporary solution.
Thanks for the info. There's nothing I can do about the lobby stealing focus though. Your solution is the best one for now. I would report the bug to 888.
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07-18-2018 , 03:57 PM
I don't think 888 is going to do anything. I just don't bother with them.

Can't we create an action similar to autositin, clickonce or timebank that clicks on an empty space at the table every half a second or something?
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07-19-2018 , 12:39 AM
Gonna PM you.
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07-19-2018 , 02:02 PM
I am having issues with Ignition. Zone and Regular tables. Predefined bet sizing is completely erratic. Sometimes it works, sometimes nothing happens. Sometimes, it puts a huge bet size, like 3x pot. It seems to cause Ignition to lag, as well. I have seen some other posts, and it seems to be a recurring problem. Is there a fix?
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07-19-2018 , 03:42 PM
Hey man,

Figured I'd shoot you a PM with all the precise issues and fixes, I'm having with Chico.
Unfortunately, your PM Box is filled.

First, for the 3x BB Bet hotkey issue I was having with, it raising more then 3x the BB. It hasn't giving me an issue, ever since I changed a few Chico settings. The settings I use for this is... Betting - Hotkeys - Added Bet X BB - # of BB 3 w/ Click Raise on. So, that's fixed.

For the Action and Focus, "All In" hotkey... It doesn't work, at all. So, I setup in the Betting section, Config... Preflop... Open Raise to raise a 100BB w/ Raise on (putting me All In), for hopes that would work. It works when it wants to in MTT's/SNG's. Which, in Cash Games, it works perfect, all the time. Same deal with Preflop... Open Raise % of PSB.

Then, I moved to Action and Focus, Hotkeys section adding a Bet X BB #of BB 100 w/ and without the Click Raise, which shows all my chips in the Bet Box but freezes as soon as I press enter.

Lastly... What I noticed with Action and Focus "All In" hotkey vs Betting Hotkeys section by adding Bet X BB...
Action and Focus "All In" doesn't work, at all.
Betting Hotkeys section by adding Bet X BB, shows all my chips in the Bet Box, without the Raise Bar moving by putting me all in. Which, I think the program doesn't read it properly so it freezes on me.

Hopefully, I didn't confuse you. That's my best, explaining everything.

Thanks a bunch!
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07-20-2018 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
I will try to release my update that fixes most problems tonight or tomorrow at the latest. Convert to BB still has some issues we are working out and speed poker won't work yet.
Hey! Did you fix it? I have betting problem, my betting hotkeys dont work(
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07-21-2018 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zyonix
Hey man,

Figured I'd shoot you a PM with all the precise issues and fixes, I'm having with Chico.
Unfortunately, your PM Box is filled.

First, for the 3x BB Bet hotkey issue I was having with, it raising more then 3x the BB. It hasn't giving me an issue, ever since I changed a few Chico settings. The settings I use for this is... Betting - Hotkeys - Added Bet X BB - # of BB 3 w/ Click Raise on. So, that's fixed.

For the Action and Focus, "All In" hotkey... It doesn't work, at all. So, I setup in the Betting section, Config... Preflop... Open Raise to raise a 100BB w/ Raise on (putting me All In), for hopes that would work. It works when it wants to in MTT's/SNG's. Which, in Cash Games, it works perfect, all the time. Same deal with Preflop... Open Raise % of PSB.

Then, I moved to Action and Focus, Hotkeys section adding a Bet X BB #of BB 100 w/ and without the Click Raise, which shows all my chips in the Bet Box but freezes as soon as I press enter.

Lastly... What I noticed with Action and Focus "All In" hotkey vs Betting Hotkeys section by adding Bet X BB...
Action and Focus "All In" doesn't work, at all.
Betting Hotkeys section by adding Bet X BB, shows all my chips in the Bet Box, without the Raise Bar moving by putting me all in. Which, I think the program doesn't read it properly so it freezes on me.

Hopefully, I didn't confuse you. That's my best, explaining everything.

Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for the additional info but I am having a hard time creating the issue. Can you please send logs by clicking the ? in the main window. Also, pictures of your settings in Chico would help.

Is anyone else having this problem currently?
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07-21-2018 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by naTpuk85
Hey! Did you fix it? I have betting problem, my betting hotkeys dont work(
Ipoker has been updating so much that it is difficult to keep up with. We should have this done in the next few days. Very sorry about the delay. Can I ask what skin you are playing on?
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07-21-2018 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
I am having issues with Ignition. Zone and Regular tables. Predefined bet sizing is completely erratic. Sometimes it works, sometimes nothing happens. Sometimes, it puts a huge bet size, like 3x pot. It seems to cause Ignition to lag, as well. I have seen some other posts, and it seems to be a recurring problem. Is there a fix?
Is this cash,zone, or mtt? If you are on mtt, you must be on the chat tab for betting to work properly. I will look into the lag. Are you running a card catcher too?
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