Turns out neither FT not SaT were being run as administrator. After changing both to admin, it worked beautifully. Thanks for the help.

Hey Greg!

Nice piece of software!
Have been playing on PS and using TOI made by Thois, and was a beta-tester throughout the project.
Wanting to try other sites (TOI being discontinued) I got to StackAndTile, tested it and came out with some improvement ideas. But I shall start with one that I feel is of high importance.

Tbh, i was quite surprised that the "on VPIP" tile setting wasn't working as I expected it.
The way I believe it should work is actually to detect the VPIP process. The user should need to configure (similar to configuring the fold button coordinates, but this time it should be an area) the check/call and bet/raise button area coordinates in the ini file, so that the application could detect when a click is being sent to those window areas (buttons), so that it could consider a VPIP - and accordingly send the tables to grid.
The main ideea behind this is that the stack acts like a selector, a pile of tables from where you quickly fold the hands that you are not interested in and only send the "action" tables to areas of the screen that require extra attention. In this way you minimize the time needed to... reject hands (your eyes/attention being focused on one table), as opposed to the "Preflop" tile setting, where your eyes move from one part of the screen to another, requiring more time.
By doing this two things are achieved. The first, already mentioned, reducing reaction time, thus allowing more tables with the same effort. And second, it is less stressful for the eyes, getting tired less.
If this is to be implemented, i will have some other optimizations.

Keep up the good work!
INSPIRON

currently, the VPIP setting only works in combination with hotkeys from an external program like TableNinja. so if you have 'c' for call and 'b' for bet in TN, then you would double up those hotkeys in SaT, and the tables would move out of the stack and into the grid when those hotkeys are pressed. sort of like "manual move into grid" hotkeys

however

i've been working on getting VPIP mode to recognize normal clicks within the button regions as you have suggested for some time now. getting this to work correctly across every site has proven a big job. i HOPE to have this feature ready for the next v.13 version. and it will need some testing so keep your eyes open

i'm curious what hotkeys exactly you are using in StarsCash. ie, call/betpot/bethalfpot

TN only works on FTP and PS if I am not mistaken. Plus I believe there are a lot of regs who use mouse for actions.

I am glad to help on Microgaming. I want to use/pay for your app asap. Put me on a list or Pm if you need testing.

INSPIRON

-check/call
-bet/raise
-uncheck auto post/sit out all tables
-click i'm back
-toggle click i'm back

these are the only hotkeys I use outside of SaT

If i use keyboard or mouse to trigger the hotkeys the problem still persists. About half the time it works about half it does not. It seems the prblem is the same as was in a previous version and which you fixed. So it might not have to do with pass throug keys (~). The only ones I use for that are check/call & bet/raise.

the problem has to do with any hotkey that does stacking and should be fixed in next version.

i was curious of the bet/raise hotkey, it just simply clicks the bet button yes? so you manually enter the number you want to bet? i was unsure of how useful a lone 'bet' hotkey would be, but SaT will likely include hotkeys for the basic 3 buttons fold/call/bet

I don't know how StarsCash works, but yes I enter the bet size in manually.

I received a msg stating my beta expired when using this morning.

I'm 24 tabling with 7 grid slots, (1 off the screen).

I found the new version does not put the tables back in my stack when I hit the fold option (folding in advance), it just keeps moving them around different grid slots on my screen, until it is actually my turn to act. I loved how the older version worked (it was perfect for me).

Will there be an option in the new version so it works same as the old... Or is there a way of still using the old expired one?

I've gone from having no probs 24 tabling, to have a real problem 12 tabling, please please help...

i still need more clarity

what fold option are you talking about? "fold+stack" hotkey? what tile setting are you using? what did the old version do differently?

Hi, sry, I try to be clearer.

I'm using Fold+stack.
Tile setting is PF.

The old version would place all my tables off the screen on a 7th grid position which was my stack, Essentially I would be staring at the desktop screen with no tables in front of me for the duration of my play. I would respond as required with 1 of the tables popping up in my grid at the allocated position. I preferred this as I would almost always only be using 4 of the 6 grid slots, the other 2 being more like 'emergency' ones. With the new software, unless Im missing something, the 6 slots are always maxed out pretty much as you have to wait for the hand to get to you before you can fold, rather than selecting the fold in advance options. When you select fold in advance or Fold+Stack, it just moves it to another grid slot, I hit fold again, now it unchecks the fold option and moves it again and so on, etc.

I really hope I'm just missing something. I'm finding it unplayable, but loved it before.

as a temp solution try using a 'stack table' key for when 'fold and stack' does not work properly.

hey dude does it work for ipoker ...can u make it work for ipoker pls? or i dont know how to do it.....a little help pls. ty

Greg:

Thanks for trimming the grid tooltip.
I tried the latest version and no issues for me.
Is it possible to add color to the borders of locked tables?

fixed the ipoker problem...but this software is trying to resize all my ipoker windows and arranging in a grid(the tournament lobby , the hand history, even the poker lobby ). I was hoping that it s arranging only the game tables like placemint does.

if you based your IPoker.ini settings file off of the one for Chili Poker found here:
http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/4

then in that file, you'll notice a line:

that setting associates some block of text to the definition of a table. so in this example, any window that has "My Screenname" in the title, will be detected as a table.

there is also the setting:
this is some text to EXCLUDE from the definition of a table. here, if the title bar contains "Chilipoker: Nickname:" then that window will not be detected as a table. (its my impression that this is part of the lobby title)


so what you'll need to do is identify some part of the text of the actual table title that is unique and not part of the lobbies, hh window, etc, and use that for the first setting. you can combine that with the second setting to explicitly exclude some other text

it shouldn't be like this. either your config is broken or theres a bug i need to fix.

is this on Stars or FTP? does the Fold+Stack hotkey succesfully click the fold in advance checkbox?

did you just copy your SaT-new.ini file over to the new version? or did you re-setup all your grid and sites fresh? i think you should try to start fresh and set everything up from scratch.

maybe i will do this or your other suggestion of a HUD-like overlay at some point

Hi, I've been using the hypersimple theme on stars previously, I changed it back to the classic theme and haven't had any problems since.

Sorry, for any inconvience.

Is there a way to configure it for hypersimple theme? Is this likely to be implemented in the future releases. Does it work for themes other than classic?

Thanks for a really great product either way.

Cheers,

hi i'm using newest version of SaT with betfred and I have reincluded the site but there seems to be a problem. It doesn't detect the fold button and doesn't bring the tables that require action to the top resulting in timeouts etc etc.

I have kept the same custom ini file from the previous versions.

Does anything else need to be changed?

btw, including the site worked fine and it folded the hand as expected.

i see, so you think that the problem was due to HyperSimple theme? that could def be it. more Stars themes will surely be supported in the future. ill try to do HyperSimple for v.13

what tile setting? is the 'bring to top' in advanced options turned on?

I'm using the on VPIP tile setting and yes the bring to top is checked

during v.13 development i've found a bug in VPIP mode which is probably what youre talking about. i'll hurry up and try to expedite this next version in the next few days even if its half done

Thanks greg. i would have been happy using the old version if u can reenable that i would be happy. v.10 was what i was using before which worked fine