I think what's happening here is like you suggested the table is considered in the grid even though it's not. So when I send the Stack Table hotkey it resets the table and then seeing as it has a decision to make it quickly pops into the grid giving the illusion that the hotkey is directly sending it to the grid.

This bug has occurred for me with the last 3 versions, 1.99.09-1.99.11. I haven't used any other versions earlier than that. 1.99.09 is the easiest to spot with since I don't experience the stack flashing with that version. I'm usually playing 16 tables.
I'm going to record my next session and also watch those numbers. I'll probably record using teamviewer remotely since camtasia lags things up, but I can send you the video after I'm done.

sounds good. next version 12, the stack wont cycle through if you use 'preflop' tile setting

You were right. The amount of tiled tables is one more than there actually are when the problem occurs. I'll PM you a link to the vid I recorded.

I play on Stars and FTP. It happens on both. I do not use TableNinja.

not really sure how to handle this, what would you like to happen to that table (if it can be detected) ?

I'd like to have the table close.

At the moment I have the stack off the edge of my monitor due to the current flickering issue. Previously I routinely cycled throught the stack with my 'send to bottom' key to check if any tables had broken. I guess when version 12 comes out I could return to doing that.

request:

regarding "keep table on grid" can you add an option to limit the text to ON and OFF?
when I activate it, a huge box containing table info + ON/OFF appears and it overlaps on some of my tables

yes, this is possible. but do you really think ON/OFF alone is enough? what if you press it and you dont know which table it registered for?

maybe i will trim and limit the table name to a certain amount of characters..

make the box more square

yea v.12 you should be able to get to the stack easier than now. re: empty table closing, i'm not sure that thats a job for SaT, maybe something like StarsCash (or TN or HJ) should handle that, and i'm not sure how i could even determine it. maybe keep track of how long its been since a table has required action? lets say, if > 5 mins, move back to New Tables stack? not sure about this though..

question to the users: just how important is different slot sizes?

to me not at all.

Not important for me. The constant resizing and readjusting of my eyes would probably annoy me

Hey greg,

I know that you advocate leaving the table in the grid for the next hand, but I think one thing that might really help me would be if I could send the table back into the stack after every decision. Some villians take ages to make a decision and this often means a lot of tables taking up space in the grid and requiring constant checking and rechecking.

I am more and more making decisions (bet check call) and then immediately using the Stack Table hotkey, to free up the grid. Doing things this way means I rarely have more than 6 tables in the grid. Although each table will return to a different slot in the grid, it has never been anything but a very minor nuisance. However, playing 24 tables and using a grid layout of 18 tables, the issue of having too many tables in the grid is becoming a major nuisance.

My preference would perhaps be for the table to go back in the stack when the check, call and bet buttons are clicked. And could you arrange it so if I wanted to see showdown results I could hold down the Ctrl key to keep the table in the grid after I make my decision?

Since I use preflop setting its fine with me. But I dont know for other users.
If possible just make it an option so that other players can still usethe old format. And is it also possible to add an ON or LOCKED text on the table?

it will help but its not important for me right now. I can think of uses for resizable tables.

if this is implimented please make it an option.

How is this for Betfred .. works fine ?

Id be happy with just somewhere i could stack all my tables and then a table leaves that stack when i have a decision to make and then just returns to the origional stack .

Would like to be playing 12+ tables .

Easy to set up for a computer lemon like myself ?

go for "preflop" mode and just follow the instructions
as for Betfred, I cant say since I havent played there.

Thanks ronmar ...

Does not seem to work on Betfred anyway .

It works fine on betfred. U just need to follow the custom site instructions on the website

yeah, i figured the reason of SaT was to get the benefits of both stacking and tiling, and one of the benefits of tiling is that if the table is in the same location, you can have an internal memory of how the hand has played out thus far. by sending to stack and returning to grid after every decision, i think you lose that. but since you dont mind it..

do you play with hotkeys like StarsCash or BetPot or TN? because then you could easily just pass through a 'Stack Table' hotkey alongside one of those programs using the "~" hotkey prefix in SaT.

might need some more info on this request. how long should the table be kept in grid, etc? ill revisit this, right now i'm really headdeep into getting vpip mode improved

i've trimmed the table name so the tooltip is not so long. you'll see it in the next version and can see if that suits.

as for a text HUD-like overlay on the table, thats more difficult, will look into it later. it does seem like a better solution than a brief tooltip display though

this is the main purpose of the program as the other users have said, you'll want to use 'Preflop' tile setting in SaT to accomplish this.

as for getting BetFred working, thats a little bit more difficult, but not impossible. like pokerash said, you can follow the Custom Site Tutorial on the website to create an betfred.ini file and you should be able to get it done

I get the feeling this is going to take me ages to figure this out ..hehehe

I opened the Autoit3 window spy and wrote down what was highlighted on the stackandtile site ... but where do i alter the settings ?

Ive checked under the betfred directory and cant see anything similar ?

Ill worry about how to configure the grid later ..

in the SaT folder, there should be a /Sites sub-folder. open up that folder and create a new.ini file. there is an example in there for Betsson poker. actually you could just copy that Betsson file, rename it to BetFred, and modify the settings in there accordingly

let me know if you need more help