use no spaces in the ini file name

not specifically, no. i suppose this should be changed to fold and send to bottom though, or at least have this option. i believe this was requested previously. i mustve forgotten

the delay between scans is the engine delay that you will find in advanced options. it shouldn't take a few seconds. i think default is like 3/4 of a second. obviously if nothing is urgent then nothing will happen.

if the grid is empty, then this should happen already. but if youre looking to have an order that will automatically align the tables according to which has the least time left to act, well its probably too much work to incorporate. plus every time you fold one hand, the whole grid would need to be reshuffled, and like ClubKid said, it would be pretty crazy

some sites just dont redraw tables when they are resized. like Pokerstars for instance, as ClubKid said, its VERY intensive to resize the stars tables because you have to send a pokerstars F5 command which redraws every table, not just the one you want. other sites dont have the special F5 hack that stars does, so you cant redraw the table unless you manually click the border. ironically, FTP doesnt do much right, but it does this properly, and it will redraw the table with normal Windows programming commands. a few versions back i was trying out new resizing code to try to circumvent the problem, and people were having all sorts of problems of tables not redrawing, or resizing to the minimum etc. since these pokersites just dont resize/redraw well, i've had to resort to some pretty bad hacks which i dont like at all, but at least its only done once when the engine is started

please keep using it and try to notice any specifics when the program stops responding and let me know and we'll see if we can narrow it down

This would be brilliant thanks

This is strange because sometimes I swear it takes more than a few seconds. I will try lowering this value and see if it makes any difference although 3/4 second is already very fast.

Sorry I've switched to PlaceMint. It seems your program was the cause of my lags (everytime I would go more than 4 tables in tile version it would start to massively lag HEM and everything else on my system.)

With placemint I don't have that problem and seems to do the same thing that your program does (I tile tables as a default not stack them.)

Just made a little discovery. I found in the advanced options that "Activate table on move to gird" was checked. I unchecked this and the whole thing seems much more responsive.

Meaning that the lag I used to have seems to be minimal. Can anyone confirm this? And what does this feature actually do? Does it continually hog focus? If so, this could explain why there was so much lag before

sorry to hear, i would be curious to try to debug this though. most people play more than 4 tables and this is the first i've heard of this massive lag.

the programs aren't really similar. although some people use SaT for table layout, the main feature is that when a table requires action, it gets moved out of the stack and into the grid, therefore grabbing your attention. players who don't like to play stacked and prefer the tile method, now can just put all the unused tables in a 'stack' where nothing happens, and only the tables that need attention get tiled


i don't see how this would cause lag, but hey, if its working better for you, then use it. what it does it, lets say theres a table at the bottom of the stack that requires action, so it gets moved to the grid and is activated, brought to the top, and gets focus. if you send hotkeys to the active table instead of table under mouse, this table SHOULD now have focus and respond to keypresses. if this option is off, the table would stay in its 'bottom' position that it was in in the stack. so if you had a web browser blocking your grid, the table would get moved to the grid, but might stay underneath your browser, since the table wasnt explicitly activated. if you use hotkeys under mouse, and keep your grid free from other programs, there probably isnt much difference whether this is on or off.

I got the AbsolutePoker ini to work by removing the spaces in the file name. I've gone ahead and added AbsolutePoker as one of my sites. The fold and stack hotkey works, however once I've folded and sent a table to the stack, it never comes back out of the stack. SaT doesn't recognize that it's my turn to act. Any idea how to fix this?

Here's the ini I use:

activate table on move to grid in the advanced options? Cant find that ... wtf?!

@greg nice... can you plz answer my PM regarding if/when the fold only hotkey would available? Would be really really nice of you....


Have a good day everybody

Yeh strange but it definitely seems to work faster without it on. Maybe its to do with my betpot program fighting for focus as I have auto focus under mouse on. Anyway, will try it more and report

I had to turn that setting off too, otherwise Stars was never able to regain control and focus other tables that needed focus.

On the lag, I only noticed it when it got to 12+ tables - then it became unusable.

Where do you guys turn off that setting?

under the about tab --> advanced options

sick... thx im kinda blind-.-

It would be interesting to find out whether u get any difference in performance

been working on the layout for ipoker the whole time... will post results later tonight... its 11.30 in the morning right now.. when Im back home around 4-8 I will tell what I experience

maybe during setup, when it says to press F10 for fold, you pressed it when the pre-select checkbox was available or something? basically when you press F10, it stores the color of the Fold button, and whenever it finds that color, it determines that action is required. so if its never moving to grid, its never finding that color that it grabbed during setup

Hi! any idiot guide? i ama noob w computers....

i'm looking to do a video soon, hopefully!

Hi greg

What does the Vista/Win7 Alternate scan do? Is it more efficient? I have Vista x64 but the scan doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? I'm just looking for all ways to increase efficiency.

Hello
You all seem to be quite happy with that program. I can not get it to work though.

I want to use it for FT only. Setting up the grid was easy, the software did recognize the table, the size and the fold button. Setting up sites was also no problem. I chose my hotkeys and off we go.

The only thing that works for me is the "New table stack". With start all tables are gathered there and will not move regardless of "preflop" or "VPIP" is set. The software also counts them as New Tables. Also all the hotkeys I tried for "Fold and move to stack" or "keep in Grid" have shown no reaction whatsoever.

If you could try to help me, I would be happy.

Hi,
Is there anything to help multitable on ongame room ?

Thanks for this soft

yes, it *should* be more efficient for vista and/or win7. but i'm on XP so i can't test. if it doesn't work, don't use it.

you should send 'fold+stack' to each table in the New Tables stack, they will move to the main stack, and then preflop detection should work and move tables to grid. 'keep in grid' won't work for tables in New Tables stack. 'manually move' should work and will send tables directly to grid.

perhaps try setting New TAbles to slot0 so that it will be unused. then start SaT, and fold+stack each table


there is settings for Betsson Poker included in the /Sites directory. you might have to modify that for your particular ongame skin. check the custom site tutorial on the web for assistance. then post if youre having problems

is there any possibility to keep them in the main stack as long i did not clicked CALL/RAISE/BET?