Thanks.

This is a good piece of software.

Im just using FT

Actually just thinking about it, there is probably a very simple work around.

The user cannot adjust the camtasia rectangle after a recording has begun so start the recording before running SAT.

What are yor plans for SAT? will it become a commercial piece of software or will it remain freeware?

plan has been to make it commercial for a while now, but i've been lazy and unmotivated. i plan to get around to it soon

That sounds good.

The camtasia problem wasnt fixed so easily!

Even if I start the recording before running SAT, it seems that SAT is still able to grab the camtasia capture window and treat it as a table.

Can you think of any way I can stop this from happening?

ok I have figured it out.

There is an option to hide the capture rectangle

cool, glad you got it going. if you have any troubles and cant describe it well, you can post the vid

LOL

Yeah

Hey I had an idea. It didnt work but I thought I'd share it with you as it might be something you might want to look into.

The stack is pretty redundant. It really just takes up a grid slot that could otherwise be used with an active table.

Obviously the stack has to go somewhere, so I installed a virtual desktop.

My idea was put the stack on its own virtual desktop, that way if you ever needed to get to it you could, but in normal play you wouldnt see it.

The problem was that when I went to try and configure SAT all of the grid tables appeared on all of the virtual desktops. There was no way of just putting one grid onto one of the virtual desktops.

Its certainly not the end of the world... SAT is still an excellent piece of software. If you were stuck for ideas to look into, this might be one for you to consider.

But yeah wow, I never really liked stacks before because I always lost track of the hand but using SAT its really good, it certainly makes it easier to multitable (now the tables can be big enough for me to be able to actually read the HUD!! Thanks

i know what you mean, when you use the 'Preflop' tile setting, the stack is redundant. you dont actually do any of your playing in it. but for 'Never' and 'VPIP' settings, the stack is used as a normal stack.

i dont know what you are using for virutal desktop software, but i have a better solution for you.

when you go to Configure Grid, you can drag your slots where you want them. so if your stack is in slot1, you can drag slot1 off the screen (or maybe almost off, so that you could still drag tables back if you needed to).

easier thing is to do this: click the '+' button to add an extra slot. Configure Grid and place that slot somewhere almost off screen, and change your Stack Slot to be that last slot number that you just added.

voila!

Awesome!

The simplest solution is usually the best.

I just tried that and it works just like I wanted it to

Thanks once again

I have a question that is related to this - is there a way to add a hotkey that will do a Fold in Advance with TN and send it back to the stack? I tried setting just the same hot key that TN uses for send to stack, but then one of the two programs won't interpret it (so it either folds in advance and doesn't move to stack, or it moves to stack and doesn't check the fold in advance button). Basically a way to make it work like the VPIP key in that SAT will just pass on the key as normal after using it to note that it should move back to the stack (vs. making it do the actual work like the Fold does).

I could go back to the old version and just use that (and edit it to do this myself), but I figure this might be useful for others.

In context, the reason I need this is because, as I see it, the only way to get a table back to the stack from the tiled slots otherwise is to wait for it to be your turn on the new and and use the Fold and Stack hotkey (or use a dedicated move to Stack hotkey, but that means you'll still need to fold when it pops to the top of the stack, duplicating effort). If I am missing something let me know! (TOI was able to move it automatically, but then the problem was you would not see HEM's popup of the cards after hand was over, which was annoying, and now that it's no longer supported I guess that wishlist feature will never be added)

Also, question on this - I tried turning off the pop up option in Poker Stars, because I was assuming SAT would cycle the stack tables for me (yet let me keep focus on tiled tables for as long as I wanted). Yet what happens is that no tables get brought to the front automatically at all. Does one have to be using preflop detection mode I assume in order for it to scan the stack? (and perhaps even if it did work on VPIP mode, it would still take away focus from the tiled tables at perhaps inopportune times, right - or is it set to work the way I describe above, and I'm doing something wrong?)

souldnt need TN. most sites, i've tried to make the Fold+Stack hotkey also press the advanced fold checkbox, so even if its not your turn to act, you should be able to pre-fold and then send to stack. i'm pretty sure this works for stars and ftp, i tried to get it going with my sites. are you saying it doesn't work for you?

you dont need to use Preflop setting, because theres no point in cycling the stack with Preflop setting, as every table needing action gets move to the grid. they never stay in the stack anyway

i just tried with VPIP setting. seemed to work for me with stars popup option both on or off.

with VPIP setting, tables never get moved. i loaded up 4 tables. when one required action, it popped to top of stack, regardless whether stars popup is on or off. so when first table required action, i simply pressed 'Manual Move' on the table and sent it to grid. i did not act on that table, i left it in grid with focus on it. from there, i could see the stack tables cycling through. when one of those requried acton, it came to the top of the stack.

actually, the SaT cycling is simply sending all the tables to the bottom (not top) until it finds one needing action. but i dont think that should matter much.

if its not working for you, perhaps try re-including the site and ensuring you are pressing F10 for Fold when the Fold button is visible

It also sends a table back to stack when I use vpip mode. I would guess its an ipoker problem or minimaxmod.

it sends it back to stack automatically mid-hand? this shouldn't happen, no matter what site you play on..

Yes it does happen, now even on the flop when the action gets back to me. I have also tested it on another ipoker site, without minimaxmod. Still get the same error.

can you please post your ini file?

Just to make sure, I re-installed the site under that tab, turned off my other AHK scripts, and tried again, and I can confirm it NEVER clicks the fold in advance for me in Stars. I am using the stock hyper simple theme but with a custom all black background (I assume it uses position to click not image recognition of the text label, right?). My TN hotkey to fold in advance works fine though. Is it possible the positioning is wrong for that theme?

EDIT: I also tried resetting to default background, and still no joy on the fold in advance. I am thinking maybe it needs the fdelay before it sends that click since it's always sending move command first? Although Fold works fine, so it would seem that works too - although Fold probably has a bit of delay built in if it's looking for pixel color first, right?

Hmm, this just never happens for me. First, on VPIP, tables always get auto moved once I hit either of my VPIP keys (check shortcut or raise shortcut, which TN handles). Second, the tables in stack NEVER sort themselves, the one waiting on me only comes to top if I act on one in grid and Stars then brings the next one to the top in the stack. I.e., if I wait on one in grid, the one in stack hidden underneath WILL time out without me ever seeing it (and with a table that I've already folded hand on at top - i.e., no other table needing action that's on top).

I also tried changing the timing and also turned off the Focus Table on Move to Grid, because that was causing it to "lock" into that table and Stars was unable to focus next table for me (unless I wait until it's my next action on newly moved grid table, but what's the purpose of that?). Not sure why one would leave that turned on, actually, unless things are just working differently for me.

Also as a side note, on a test I did on money games (play money only allows five tables to be actively sat on), and once I reached 13 tables or so, the stack would start cycling out of control, and I had to forcefully quit the Stars process via Task Manager. That is the only time I've seen stack cycle itself!

Any other ideas based on this additional info?

EDIT 2: I figured out the problem. SAT is only looking to click the Fold advance action button (not check-fold, and not the Fold to Any box located on the left near the sit in/out and blind control boxes). Any reason not to just change it to click the latter? That is more useful since it always appears no matter what action is facing the player. the Fold box shows very infrequently, probably only useful in a full ring limit game that is very loose and lots of time exists before user acts on an incoming raise or bet. Otherwise it's usually time to just press the main Fold button! Whereas the Fold to Any can be clicked even when there are no actions available otherwise to player in the main actions area (and no advance actions either). TN also uses the Fold to Any checkbox.

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FullTiltPoker_fold_color=0x9B7708
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Parimatch_fold_color=0x1E576D
Parimatch_fold_x_scaled=181
Parimatch_fold_y_scaled=461
Titan_executable_path=C:\Poker\Titan Poker\casino.exe
Titan_resized_table_width=729
Titan_resized_table_height=548
Titan_fold_color=0x000000
Titan_fold_x_scaled=445
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yes this could be the problem

the fold action is sent first, then the delay (which will be configurable in next release), then the move. this shouldnt be the problem



ah hah! i knew it was clicking one of them

there is a reason. SaT uses only one coordinate for the Fold button. it uses this coordinate to 1. detect whether action is required depending on pixel color, and 2. to click that coordinate for 'Fold'. since the pre-fold boxes are in the same location as the real Fold button, i just have to make sure the pixel that is used will be in the location that both button and pre-checkbox cover. this is why i said that it should currently click MOST pre-fold checkboxes because some times the sites pre-fold checkbox does not overlap the real fold button, so theres no way to click both sine SaT only clicks the one coordinate.

yes, i could change it to click the Fold-to-any checkbox on the left side, but it would take some time to re-write things since most other sites don't have one of those. i need to keep things as modular as possible to support every site. it seems important enough though. i will add it to the to-do list and look into it more in depth.

ok. so tell me if this accurately describes your problem: you press Start, tables go to slot9. you press fold+stack and they go to your stack which is slot8. its your turn to act preflop, table gets moved to slot1. you play the hand in slot1. then at some point on flop or turn, the tables gets automatically moved back to your stack in slot8? and you are certain you are not pressing spacebar (your Fold+Stack hotkey) while chatting or something?

that titan fold pixel color is the code for BLACK. that seems risky. anyway, is it possible you could make a video, or we could do TeamViewer or something?

yes, that's exactly what's happening. Teamviewer would be great.

Hi,
i have a problem using SAT:

My stack slot is 4 and new tables slot is 3. (no problem)
When action is required, table X will go to slot 1. When there is another action required at another table Y, table Y will go to slot 2.
The problem is that slot 2 steals the focus of slot 1 but i have not taken an action yet on slot 1. When i (fold + stack) table Y in slot 2, it doesn't go to table X in slot 1 where still action is required. Table X times out.
It should only go to slot 2 when i made an action on slot 1 but that doesn't happen. (=wrong queue system?)

I play on microgaming (ladbrokes). I have windows 7. Is there any solution for this problem? Thank you.
my .ini file:

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gui_x=356
gui_y=74
last_tab=
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table_width=816
table_height=638
total_slots=4
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slot4y=8
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activate_on_move=1
engine_delay=250
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number_of_sites=1
included_sites=ladbrokes
ladbrokes_executable_path=C:\Microgaming\Poker\lad brokesMPP\MPPoker.exe
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ladbrokes_fold_x_scaled=330
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hotkey1key=Numpad1
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