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03-26-2010 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eule
can i use stack and tile just to arange the tables for me?

i have enough space on my 30" so i dont need the stack option but it would be awesome if the program could tile the tables of stars and FTP automaticly
what do you mean by "arrange tables"?

the default setting for SaT (move Preflop), SaT moves each table into grid when its your turn to act. this will feel like playing with tables tiled. so you never actually play from the stack, since as soon as its your turn, the table gets tiled into the grid. when you press the "Fold+Stack" hotkey, you will fold your hand and the table will get moved to the stack. the stack is just a placeholder for the tables until they detect that its your turn to act, in which case the table will be moved.

if you use "Never" or "on VPIP" setting, then the tables will stay in stack, and you will play from the stack. this will feel like you are playing stacked.

if you just want to use SaT to tile multiple sites and thats it, i guess you could do that too. run SaT, click Setup Grid to define your table size, then click Configure Grid to drag and drop where the tiled tables will go, use the "Never" option so SaT will just ignore all the tables, and use a "Manual Move" hotkey to move each table into grid.
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03-26-2010 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sak
I tried to search to see if anyone was having issues with using SaT and table ninja at the same time on full tilt, but only saw people back in January with these issues. Has anything changed in the program since then. In SaT, I clicked never move in setup. Then I have a manual move hotkey. I have problems when I manually move a table from the top of the stack into my grid, the amount preset by table ninja on moved table flickers and changes. I think its because it gets confused with the other table in the stack that is now on top, while this table is moved to the grid. Any fixes for this? Its annoying because sometimes it doesnt stop changing and I dont know how much its going to bet, and its usually for large amounts of money because i only move a table when i have big decisions.
hrm i have no idea whats going on. the program has changed since January, but i'm not sure if anything has changed which would affect this problem. ask the TN people what they are doing to put the amount into the betbox, maybe i can work around their technique
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03-26-2010 , 03:52 PM
in other news, just been screwing around on pokerstars, inspired by an older thread i saw

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03-26-2010 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
if you just want to use SaT to tile multiple sites and thats it, i guess you could do that too. run SaT, click Setup Grid to define your table size, then click Configure Grid to drag and drop where the tiled tables will go, use the "Never" option so SaT will just ignore all the tables, and use a "Manual Move" hotkey to move each table into grid.
does "manual move" mean i have to drag and drop the tables into the grid myself?
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03-26-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
hrm i have no idea whats going on. the program has changed since January, but i'm not sure if anything has changed which would affect this problem. ask the TN people what they are doing to put the amount into the betbox, maybe i can work around their technique
I think it has to do with SaT making the table you move from your stack into your grid still the first table you need to act on...ie when I move a table from a stack while im still contemplating what to do, SaT waits for you to act on that table before it makes the table on top of your stack the table with the most priority, correct?
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03-26-2010 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by eule
does "manual move" mean i have to drag and drop the tables into the grid myself?
no, on the hotkeys tab, you can set up a hotkey to "Manually move table into grid", you simply hover your mouse over a table, press the hotkey, and the table will move into the next free grid slot. named "manual" instead of SaT automatically moving when action required


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Originally Posted by Sak
I think it has to do with SaT making the table you move from your stack into your grid still the first table you need to act on...ie when I move a table from a stack while im still contemplating what to do, SaT waits for you to act on that table before it makes the table on top of your stack the table with the most priority, correct?
correct, the table that moves to grid is still the "active table" if that helps any. what are you suggesting it should be? check what settings TN has for "active table" or "table under mouse"
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03-26-2010 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
no, on the hotkeys tab, you can set up a hotkey to "Manually move table into grid", you simply hover your mouse over a table, press the hotkey, and the table will move into the next free grid slot. named "manual" instead of SaT automatically moving when action required




correct, the table that moves to grid is still the "active table" if that helps any. what are you suggesting it should be? check what settings TN has for "active table" or "table under mouse"
I dont know if there is anyways to make the table that moves to the grid NOt the active table, but if there is it might make it easier to interface with other programs. And easier in general. Once you move that table, is there any need for it to be the active table. Because since it is not stacked you will always be able to see it, and the point of a table being the active table while stacked is so you can see it. But if you move it, you can always see it, so it doesnt necessarily need to be the active table anymore. IN addition, if its not the active table, it will allow you to leave your decision on the table in the grid for a second or two while you think about it and simultaneously make easy decisions in your stack while you think about the other table.
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03-26-2010 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sak
I dont know if there is anyways to make the table that moves to the grid NOt the active table, but if there is it might make it easier to interface with other programs. And easier in general. Once you move that table, is there any need for it to be the active table. Because since it is not stacked you will always be able to see it, and the point of a table being the active table while stacked is so you can see it. But if you move it, you can always see it, so it doesnt necessarily need to be the active table anymore. IN addition, if its not the active table, it will allow you to leave your decision on the table in the grid for a second or two while you think about it and simultaneously make easy decisions in your stack while you think about the other table.
well heres the thing, just because it moves into grid, you could have a web browser in the grid area or something, and you might move the table into grid, and it goes underneath, and you dont see it.

i might be able to have a fix for this, i could just activate the next table in the queue, i'm not sure if that would screw things up elsewhere though. we'll see
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03-26-2010 , 11:47 PM
since pressing F10 to click fold wont work on Ongame modded tables, is it possible to add the coordinates manually? Im assuming that F10 function clicks a specific coordinate in the table.
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03-26-2010 , 11:57 PM
you assume correctly. i will try to make it more customizable so that users can manually enter coords. but you will still run into the problem of the lobby until i figure out a way around that (unless you use Betsson)
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03-27-2010 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
you assume correctly. i will try to make it more customizable so that users can manually enter coords. but you will still run into the problem of the lobby until i figure out a way around that (unless you use Betsson)
I can live with the resized lobby for now. Ill wait for an update
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03-27-2010 , 08:41 PM
Just had this happen today

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03-27-2010 , 09:39 PM
don't know what to tell you other than use at your own risk. this project started out as open source and i'm sure there are people who can vouch for the old code.

i'm not making viruses, if you don't trust me then don't use it.

although, if you google "autohotkey virus" you will see that its common for autohotkey programs to be detected as false positives. complain to your antivirus company to have better virus signatures
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03-27-2010 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
don't know what to tell you other than use at your own risk

i'm not making viruses, if you don't trust me then don't use it.

although if you google "autohotkey virus" you will see that its common for autohotkey programs to be detected as false positives. complain to your antivirus company to have better virus signatures
Ya nothing to do with trust, just wanted to make sure I wasnt doing something wrong. Im guessing I can just click "ignore and remember" in my AV program.
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03-27-2010 , 09:44 PM
also, a great program to use if you are untrusting of random internet downloads is www.sandboxie.com

but i'm not certain if SaT will work with it, if the poker clients aren't sandboxed as well.
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03-27-2010 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
if you use "Never" or "on VPIP" setting, then the tables will stay in stack, and you will play from the stack. this will feel like you are playing stacked.

if you just want to use SaT to tile multiple sites and thats it, i guess you could do that too. run SaT, click Setup Grid to define your table size, then click Configure Grid to drag and drop where the tiled tables will go, use the "Never" option so SaT will just ignore all the tables, and use a "Manual Move" hotkey to move each table into grid.
tried this (just to recap: i want to play 12 tables of pokerstars/FTP/party mixed and the program to just tile them into the right spot so that they dont overlap each other and i dont have to move them around manually)

so i setup stars/ftp and my 12 table grid but sometimes stackandtile puts the tables into the same spot after i hit "manual move" any idea how to fix this?
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03-27-2010 , 10:14 PM
you mean two tables go to the same grid slot? that shouldn't happen
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03-27-2010 , 11:00 PM
ok works now, thx!

great program ^^
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03-27-2010 , 11:01 PM
magic
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03-28-2010 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jasons0147
Just had this happen today

got that as well, interesting. gonna ask some people to look into it.
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03-28-2010 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rafifer
got that as well, interesting. gonna ask some people to look into it.
i could compile it with compression and you might not get this warning anymore, not sure. ill do it for 1.99.04 in the next day or two and tell me if you guys are still getting it

but like i said, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=autohotkey+virus

Last edited by greg nice; 03-28-2010 at 01:01 AM.
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03-28-2010 , 01:20 AM
i also noticed that there was another .exe with a garbled filename found with the same trojan
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03-28-2010 , 01:25 AM
well be smart, if you are worried then don't use the program.

in general i think poker players are too trusting with software that they run on their computers which access accounts with hundreds of thousands of dollars. (yes i know this is not in my best interest to say since i am providing a closed source program here)
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03-28-2010 , 02:32 AM
got preflop mode working for FTP.
A few problems,

1. Im trying to write notes or something else on another window but once SaT automatically tiles a table for preflop action I lose focus on the text window. It seems my mouse pointer gets lost at the time the table is moved. Is there a work around for this?

2. Once I have SaT running it disables the right click pop-up. I can still use Rclick for folding but I cant see the popup if I use it on another software. Eg. righclicking on a hand in HEM tab so that I can mark it for later review. Or rightclicking on my system tray to enable/disable certain programs.

great software
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03-28-2010 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
well be smart, if you are worried then don't use the program.

in general i think poker players are too trusting with software that they run on their computers which access accounts with hundreds of thousands of dollars. (yes i know this is not in my best interest to say since i am providing a closed source program here)
yea, pretty sure it was just a false positive, but still like to be safe on these type of things. great program btw :]
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