Ok. After my session was done today I registered for a $1 tourney and did some more testing with this "Enter" key problem. Here are my observations:

1) With StackandTile turned off the pressing of the "enter" key does not cause any problems with the table actions

2) With StackandTile turned on the pressing of the "enter" key seems to cause the far right button to be pressed on the selected table. I did test pressing the "enter" key off screen without selecting the table and nothing happened so I do have to manually select a table on screen and press the "enter" key for it to trigger.

3) If the third bet button is not present. Ex. Someone covers me goes all in and I only have two option. Call or Fold. No slider bar. If I select the table and hit "enter" in this scenario nothing happens.

I have no idea what to make of this but I think this proves StackandTile is causing the issue at least. The hotkeys within Stackandtile that I use are:

Stack table- MButton
Keep table in grid- F12
Then I have bet x bb sliders mapped out to my extra gaming keyboard commands. Alt + a,b,c,d,e,f

That's all. Please get back to me on some advice on what might be causing this issue. Thanks.

I need two different layouts for two different *resolutions* that I'm currently testing with (running Windows on Mac via Parallels). Is there any way to share the hotkeys between those layouts? It's a real pain to keep switching and looking back at the keys for eah command after you have one already set up.

here's my opinion. of course other users are encouraged to chime in

yes what you describe can be solved with the 'when dealt cards' mode, or even the 'after entering pot' mode. the latter is more reliable, since SaT doesn't have to scan for the visibility of the hole cards. for 'after entering pot' mode, SaT looks for either 1. a mouse click within the call/bet button regions, or 2. a 'Call or 'Bet' hotkey press from SaT

with 'after entering pot' mode, you are playing all your preflop decisions in the stack. this is different than what you're used to. you are thinking that a lot of time and space is wasted by moving tables to the grid, where you will just do a fast fold of a bad hand preflop. even with 'when dealt cards' mode, you will still be playing preflop hands in the grid, so you will still get the time/space waste.



ensure you don't have the Advanced Option to "Focus betbox when possible" enabled. if it is, then when action is required on a table, SaT will do what it says and focus the betbox, which would then cause an Enter keypress to be sent to the betbox, which in all cases that i know of will send the bet

I didn't know the 'after entering pot' mode was available, I tried it but it seems it doesn't work properly, sometime the table which I enter the pot remain in the stack, any ideas why?

BTW, awesome feature (if I can get it work)

how are you entering the pot? by clicking with your mouse or by using a call/bet hotkey?

if by clicking with the mouse, then i would suspect it may have something to do with a mouse hover over the button, which changes the color of the button, and in that brief moment before you click, SaT sees the new color and determines that action is no longer required. to know if this is the case, you would need to test on different sites and try to narrow down exactly when and why it fails

sorry missed this question earlier

you could add all the same hotkeys thru the interface, but if you have a lot, then i agree this is tedious

if you click File->Current Layout, it will open up the layout config file. if you scroll near the bottom you will see the [hotkeys] section of the file. you should be able to copy and paste everything under [hotkeys] into the other file. then save the file and just close and reopen SaT

normal config file looks like this:

Thanks. I didn't test it yet but I did have that option ticked in the advanced option section of Stackandtile. I may even have similar options checked within some of the individual poker clients. I'll have to check later and untick them as well if that is the case.

I did follow your guides when configuring the sites but I think I probably ticked that option on a lot of them if I wasn't referred to not do so just because I thought it would make entering my various bet sizes easier in game. It's not worth it though if it's going to interfere with my chat and sometimes my off screen text.

Thanks again for the help.

I just checked, the table doesn't move if I'm using an hotkey

What hotkey are you using? Is it one of SaT's "Call" or "Bet" hotkeys?

What site does this fail on? All sites or just specific sites?

Are you certain that SaT is correctly detecting when action is required on these tables?

I'm playing on PS and I'm using PS's hotkeys not S&T's. Maybe that's the issue.

yes obviously. SaT cannot know when you press a PS hotkey. if you don't want to use SaT's hotkeys (why not?) then you would need to still set up a matching "External VPIP hotkey" within SaT to match the PS hotkey. its designed exactly for this situation, and that would solve it

Pure lazyness, anyway I'm going to try, ty very much

no worries, just set up a matching "External VPIP hotkey" in SaT matching the same keyboard key as your Call/Bet hotkey in PS

Ok I just tried, Bet X BB on PS doesn't work, I mean, it set the size correctly but it isn't click the bet button automatically, and I need that.

Anyway I set the hotkeys as External VPIP hotkeys and worked, however I have encounter an issue. When I'm on the BB, someone limps and I check, the table isn't moving into the grid. And I'm using a the S&T fold hotkey

its off by default because its not recommended. always best to visually confirm what bet is being sent before throwing away real moneys. but there is an Advanced Option to turn that on

hrmmmm I think you're right. I'm extremely surprised this bug hasn't been mentioned before, or if it had, that I missed it.

on second thought, i believe i never added this to the "Fold+Stack" hotkey, because that contradicts itself. if the command is to "click Fold, and then move the table to the Stack", then the table should explicitly go to the stack. but i guess if we click "Check", then it should go to the grid

for the "Fold" hotkey (not the +Stack variant), then yes this should definitely be moving to the grid if you could "Check" for free, but its currently not

here is a test version v2.85r

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...Setup-285r.exe

download, install, confirm version number, test, report back

Tested and it doesn't work.
Also I want to notice that, in this version, new (opened) tables sometimes go to the grid, sometimes directly into the stack

what doesn't work? what hotkey are you using within SaT? what do you expect to happen and what happens instead?

the only change in this version is that the "Fold" and "Fold+Stack" hotkeys will move the table from stack to grid when you can check for free while using "After entering pot" mode. thats it

if Stars is opening tables in the location of an exact grid slot of SaT, then SaT will just leave the table in that slot

The fold hotkey within S&T. I'm using it to check or fold, depending whether the check is free or not.
Since you said that the "Fold" and "Fold+Stack" hotkeys will move the table from stack to grid when you can check for free while using "After entering pot" mode I reported that it doesn't work, at least for me

not only when you are in the BB. any time when you can check for free, which would include something like postflop if everyone checks to you.

you use the Fold hotkey. instead of clicking Fold, it clicks Check. and then it moves the table from stack to grid

Ok ty for the clarification, however, it still doesn't work for me.
I only tested when I was on the BB, if you want I can make a video on it, or make other tests for sure

are you sure there are no conflicts between SaT and Stars hotkeys?

is SaT's Fold hotkey clicking Check? if not, then you need to make sure that Stars is showing the popup. see the SaT help page for PokerStars to re-enable the "are you sure you want to fold?" popup

Maybe that's the issue, I'm going to try asap.
A quick, probably dumb question, why are you using the popup? You can achieve the exact same thing, without any popup annoyances, by letting the fold button to click fold and then check whether the hand is folded or not (using pixelcolor or any other method).
Also this should work on any site

Because that would require me to have the coordinate location of the hole cards, which changes dependent upon which seat your at. So it would require me to ask the user to click on the hole card location during Include Site setup, like I required for 'Move to grid = When dealt cards'. I try to make setup as easy as possible and not require things when not necessary

I thought you could use the setup coords but I guess was wrong, ty for the clarification

I could but it would require me ASKING the user for those coords. I don't do that unless I have to. Plenty of people use the Fold+Stack hotkey with Move To Grid = Action Required, so I never get the hole card coords

Anyway, did it work as expected after you re-enabled the popup?