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03-09-2015 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Well if it only happens when you are UTG, then that's a different problem than what I described, and actually maybe you want the reverse advice, that is to lower the action_delay setting instead of increase it. You didn't say what site this happens on..?

PS

Anyway, I read on your link that the setting that you suggest to change is related to hotkeys... I don't use any hotkeys on your software, I'm using the PS built in

Last edited by 4-Star General; 03-09-2015 at 07:55 PM.
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03-09-2015 , 09:43 PM
Greg, would it be possible to run a stack and tile on the top three tiles across the top of the screen strictly for cash games while running the same on the bottom for tournaments only? So your top 3 rows are strictly cash games, bottom three strictly tourneys. Top left is your cash game stack, bottom left is your tourney stack. Assuming you are playing more than 3 cash games and more than 3 tourneys. If I'm not being clear let me know.
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03-09-2015 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
PS

Anyway, I read on your link that the setting that you suggest to change is related to hotkeys... I don't use any hotkeys on your software, I'm using the PS built in
from the link:

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After you use an action button hotkey such as fold/call/bet, or after you click on one of those buttons with your mouse,...
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03-09-2015 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Greg, would it be possible to run a stack and tile on the top three tiles across the top of the screen strictly for cash games while running the same on the bottom for tournaments only? So your top 3 rows are strictly cash games, bottom three strictly tourneys. Top left is your cash game stack, bottom left is your tourney stack. Assuming you are playing more than 3 cash games and more than 3 tourneys. If I'm not being clear let me know.
Yes its possible. You'd need to create custom sites for Cash tables only and Tournament tables only, because if you include the built in site, then it would grab all tables for a site. So you'd need to pay particular attention to the "table_include/exclude_title_text" settings and run the Test thoroughly to make sure only the correct tables are matched

Then you would need to run two instances of SaT, with separate layouts, aligning the slots where you want. And then you'd need to set up the same hotkeys across both, probably prefixing the key names with the ~ character so they pass through to the other instance.
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03-09-2015 , 10:53 PM
I'm having trouble getting any mouse hotkeys to work for Bovada.. keyboard works fine, but no dice with mouse...

any ideas? I've tried mouse right click for opening X amount of bb's and increase/decrease bet size with mouse wheel.
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03-10-2015 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakeeck
I'm having trouble getting any mouse hotkeys to work for Bovada.. keyboard works fine, but no dice with mouse...

any ideas? I've tried mouse right click for opening X amount of bb's and increase/decrease bet size with mouse wheel.
Have you tried the suggestion on the Bovada help page to not pass through the right click?

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/bovada-bodog
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03-10-2015 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
from the link:
I tried to set it to 50, but it doesn't change anything...

Right now when I fold the hand it takes about a second to detected that I folded... is that normal?
Ideally I'd like to send it backto the stack asap
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03-10-2015 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
I tried to set it to 50, but it doesn't change anything...

Right now when I fold the hand it takes about a second to detected that I folded... is that normal?
Ideally I'd like to send it backto the stack asap
A full second? If you've set it to 50, then SaT now waits only 50ms instead of the 150ms default. Are you sure you followed the directions?

Your layout file should look like this with the added line:

Code:
[settings]
action_delay=50
table_width=xxx
..
Save the file and restart SaT. You should notice a slightly faster response time between when you click Fold and when the table moves back to the stack. You can test this by setting it to 500, saving and restarting as well.
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03-10-2015 , 10:31 AM
A full second?

Yep, maybe a little more... I'm going to make s really small video and then I'll send it to you.
Maybe it is just normal but we don't understand each other due to the languange barrier (yep bad english on my part)




If you've set it to 50, then SaT now waits only 50ms instead of the 150ms default. Are you sure you followed the directions?

Your layout file should look like this with the added line:

Code:
[settings]
action_delay=50
table_width=xxx
..





EDIT: I PMed the vid

Last edited by 4-Star General; 03-10-2015 at 10:38 AM.
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03-10-2015 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
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Originally Posted by greg nice
If you've set it to 50, then SaT now waits only 50ms instead of the 150ms default. Are you sure you followed the directions?

Your layout file should look like this with the added line:

Code:
[settings]
action_delay=50
table_width=xxx
..

looks right

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Originally Posted by greg nice
A full second?
Yep, maybe a little more... I'm going to make s really small video and then I'll send it to you.
Maybe it is just normal but we don't understand each other due to the languange barrier (yep bad english on my part)

EDIT: I PMed the vid
Thanks a lot for the vid, that helps a lot. From the looks of it, it looks like you are using the "Stack table at End of Hand" feature. This could be part of the problem that you were initially seeing of the table moving back to the stack and then moving back to the grid. I've made a lot of revisions to this feature to it to make it as reliable as possible. I sually recommend people not to use this feature, because once a hand is over, a new hand will be starting very soon, which will require your action anyway. But lets handle this immediate problem first.

From the video, the KQ hand, you are right it is definitely a long time, maybe near a second. It looks like what is happening is that the table is relying on the "Stack table at End of Hand" feature to move itself back to the stack. It is not detecting the 'Fold' action.

I thought you were clicking Fold with the mouse? Are you? If so, do you have the Adv Option for "Left mouse click detection" turned on? Then SaT will detect the Fold action on a mouseclick.

If you are using hotkeys, you probably want to use "Fold+Stack" instead of just "Fold"
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03-10-2015 , 02:12 PM
I'm using "Stack table at end of hand" feature yep.

Regarding the my fold in the vid, I'm using the right right button, using PS hotkey

I don't use your hotkey "fold+stack' since I'm using the right button also to check...
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03-10-2015 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
I'm using "Stack table at end of hand" feature yep.

Regarding the my fold in the vid, I'm using the right right button, using PS hotkey

I don't use your hotkey "fold+stack' since I'm using the right button also to check...
Well that explains it then

SaT has no knowledge of your PS hotkey so it can't know when you've pressed it

Have you tried SaT's hotkey? It clicks Check when you can check for free without folding. Just requires the popup to appear which it will then close.
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03-10-2015 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Well that explains it then

SaT has no knowledge of your PS hotkey so it can't know when you've pressed it

Have you tried SaT's hotkey? It clicks Check when you can check for free without folding. Just requires the popup to appear which it will then close.

I didn't give it a try, however, I certainly have no popup when check is free...
May I ask you why you are using the popup when you can just check whether Hero's hole cards are still displayed on the table?
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03-10-2015 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
I didn't give it a try, however, I certainly have no popup when check is free...
May I ask you why you are using the popup when you can just check whether Hero's hole cards are still displayed on the table?
Are you sure you get no popup when you try to click Fold when you can check for free? This popup happens by default, so you would have had to turn it off and have Stars "remember" your choice. If so, you can restore the popup as mentioned on the Stars help page #5:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/pokerstars

I can only check the hole cards if I grab a pixel of the hole cards during Include Site setup. The majority of users do not use 'Stack table at End of Hand' nor one of the 'Move to grid' settings which require me to grab the holecard. The inconvenience is not worth adding to the Include Site setup, which I want to make as easy as possible for people to get up and running. Further, detecting the popup is pretty fast already, so there is really no downside.

Why don't you just try it Could've been solved already instead of going back and forth
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03-11-2015 , 06:32 AM
I've tried but the popup flashing is unbearable, at least for me...
I'm going to use the "Stack table at End of Hand" feature...
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03-11-2015 , 07:27 AM
Hi Greg,
Am having some problems setting up with party poker. When I attempt to add the site (either modern or classic) I get the following error message:

Failure:

(play money) table details

doesn't match for this site

I am using version 2.0.4 since I was not keen on the postflop element introduced in later versions.

Many thanks,
Angri
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03-11-2015 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
I've tried but the popup flashing is unbearable, at least for me...
heh ok

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I'm going to use the "Stack table at End of Hand" feature...
Here is another thing you can try.. reduce the "end_of_hand_restack_delay" setting, similarly to how you added the "action_delay" line

See here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options
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03-11-2015 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
Hi Greg,
Am having some problems setting up with party poker. When I attempt to add the site (either modern or classic) I get the following error message:

Failure:

(play money) table details

doesn't match for this site

I am using version 2.0.4 since I was not keen on the postflop element introduced in later versions.

Many thanks,
Angri
Heh 2.0.4 is from like 2 years ago? I highly doubt that there is any way that that version still works for anything

What "postflop element" are you talking about? I'm sure theres probably a way to workaround whatever it is you think is stopping you from having the same setup as v2.0.4
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03-11-2015 , 08:22 AM
Ok thanks well it works just fine for pokerstars

I remember a version shortly after 2.0.4 where you had to see a flop before tables were sent back to the stack

I'll check out the latest version and see what goes on
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03-11-2015 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
heh ok



Here is another thing you can try.. reduce the "end_of_hand_restack_delay" setting, similarly to how you added the "action_delay" line

See here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options


Ty a lot
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03-11-2015 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Thanks, works great!
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03-12-2015 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
I upgraded to the new version and I noticed two things:
1) when I time out on a table (and I am sitting out), that table no longer pops to the top. It just sits in the bottom of my stack, and I have no convenient way of accessing it. Not sure if this should be a separate option.
2) there were a few times when clicking "fold" caused me to "call". Not sure if this is some lag issue (as I had a lot of tables open), or if it something else.

Anyway, I am reverting back to the previous version for now. Let me know if I should give it another try.
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03-12-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HateTheBeach
I upgraded to the new version and I noticed two things:
1) when I time out on a table (and I am sitting out), that table no longer pops to the top. It just sits in the bottom of my stack, and I have no convenient way of accessing it. Not sure if this should be a separate option.
What site is this on? You didn't say.

Anyway, the table was never meant to pop to the top of the stack. If it did, it was an unintended bug. My guess it this happened on WinningPoker. Previously the action_button was "fold" and when you sat out, the "Sit back in" button was in the same spot as the Fold button. But WinningPoker no longer shows the Fold button when you can check for free, so I cannot reliably continue to use that button to determine if action is required. The action_button for that site has been changed to the "call" button

You should be using the Old Tables feature to access these tables

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2) there were a few times when clicking "fold" caused me to "call". Not sure if this is some lag issue (as I had a lot of tables open), or if it something else.
Again what site was this on? v2.77 should fix this for WinningPoker
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