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06-22-2014 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Interesting. These are good clues.

First, I would ask: Does the table in the grid that you are attempting to act on require your action? Is it your turn to act? Or are you attempting to act on the pre-action checkboxes? I'm guessing that it is truly your turn to act, because you initially noticed the problems when trying to type in a bet. And the betbox is only visible when it is your turn.
Yes my turn to act

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But definitely remove and re-Include iPoker. Thats a good start. Then run this Test with one iPoker table and ensure that it works properly:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack
Removed and re-included iPoker. That test works fine, but still had the same issue in-session of iPoker trying to fight for focus when my grid is full and I'm trying to take action on a table in my grid

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Then, double check that you've turned off the options within iPoker so that it doesn't take focus from other tables. Confirm that these settings are working without SaT. Put a notepad window partially on top of your table, and see if the table steals focus from notepad when its your turn to act. Because by the sound of what you're saying, I would think that iPoker and SaT are both fighting to give focus to a table.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/ipoker-focus.png
Have those specific settings turned off (always had since using SaT), and went through all of the iPoker settings, and can't possibly imagine anything in there that could be causing this issue. Forgot to do the notepad test, but iPoker isn't trying to steal focus when it's my turn to act on iPoker, it only happens everytime my grid is full.

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But its strange because you say that you had turned off SaT's option to "Activate table when action required". So then really neither SaT nor iPoker should be trying to give focus, and I would think that the border highlight would only change when you manually click on a table. Are you running any other software that may be trying to give focus?

And with the new update, please check and see if you notice your other error anymore with the clicks not registering on the pokersite but SaT still sending the table back to the stack. I would think these should no longer happen in v2.65
No I only run a few programs when playing and I don't see how any of them could steal focus. I still do have that "clicks not registering" problem, but I realized it's only due to the same aforementioned issue with iPoker.

There is a new small issue since the new update I noticed with regards to rebuy/addon boxes, at least on Stars where you have to click the drop-down box for 1x/2x auto-rebuy. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was just kind of "glitchy" for lack of a better term.
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06-23-2014 , 01:13 AM
You got PM
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06-24-2014 , 11:09 AM
Hey greg. Unfortunately I had to stop using the latest version because I was getting too many misclicks. Semi-frequently a table will just pop-up above a table you're acting on and if you're mid-click the action goes on that table and screws you.

Fwiw in my trial I was playing 0.01/0.02 cash games and it all seemed fine, but my actual games are SNGs/tournaments so I don't know if it's a tournament only thing. It's probably hard to replicate without playing 10+ tables :-/

Have reverted to the version I was using before.

For anyone else reading this problem is specific to PokerStars HyperSimple theme, and even then might be specific to my set-up.
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06-25-2014 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
Hey greg. Unfortunately I had to stop using the latest version because I was getting too many misclicks. Semi-frequently a table will just pop-up above a table you're acting on and if you're mid-click the action goes on that table and screws you.

Fwiw in my trial I was playing 0.01/0.02 cash games and it all seemed fine, but my actual games are SNGs/tournaments so I don't know if it's a tournament only thing. It's probably hard to replicate without playing 10+ tables :-/

Have reverted to the version I was using before.

For anyone else reading this problem is specific to PokerStars HyperSimple theme, and even then might be specific to my set-up.
If you want, I can try to take a look over teamviewer and see if I can figure out the problem. PM me your skype name if you want.
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06-26-2014 , 12:34 AM
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Hi Greg,

maybe you can help me out with some informations about your software. I am playing 6-8 tables (tile) on 5 different sites on 2 screens. Right now I am moving manually the tables to the right place, which can be very annoying. When TST opens a table, could your software move by hotkey the table to the right place? I would like to have 6 tables on screen one and 2 tables plus lobbies, PT4 and TST on screen two.

Moreover is it possible to use Sat at once on Party, Micro, Ongame, 888 and Ipoker?
By default, every 'New Table' that SaT sees gets put in the next free grid slot. You could try the "Tile tables" Play mode within SaT and that should do what you want without needing any hotkeys. Of course, you could set up hotkeys also to "Move table to slot X", for whichever slot # you want. Or you could drag and drop tables and they should snap into the closest slot position.

As for the sites, Party, 888, and iPoker should all work good. Ongame has built-in support too, but many people have reported that SaT can no longer detect when action is required. If you are only tiling your tables, then this shouldn't affect you. Inside SaT, you'll need to Include every site that you're playing on so that SaT knows which tables to look for. Microgaming doesn't have builtin support, so you'd need to choose "Other" from the Sites dropdown and use the custom site wizard to set that up.
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06-26-2014 , 06:04 AM
Internet connection error. Could not connect to the SaT website or the backup site either.

What does that mean?

another question: if I am stacking my tables and I want to move a certain table to slot 1, and afterwards move it back into my stack, will this cost me 1 or 2 hotkeys? if so, which ones?
thanks
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06-26-2014 , 06:51 AM
I just installed stackandtile for the first time testing the software on stars but the tables dont move back to stack when i fold a hand. The tables never move back to stack. I use the stackandtile layout. Why is that?
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06-26-2014 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
Internet connection error. Could not connect to the SaT website or the backup site either.

What does that mean?
It means that SaT cannot connect to its website to verify your license or trial. Usually this happens if the website is down for maintenance. When you get thismessage, you should try to connect to the website via your webbrowser and see if that is the case. If you cannot get to the website, then the problem is with the site. If you can get to the website, then there is a configuration problem on your system preventing the StackAndTile.exe program from connecting, perhaps a firewall or VPN type program (hola app)

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another question: if I am stacking my tables and I want to move a certain table to slot 1, and afterwards move it back into my stack, will this cost me 1 or 2 hotkeys? if so, which ones?
thanks
2 hotkeys:
"Move to next grid slot"
"Stack Table"

both will do what they say, to move a table out and back. Those will likely be what you want. Alternatively you can move a table to specifically only slot 1 with a "Move table to Slot 1" hotkey.
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06-26-2014 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Baruka
I just installed stackandtile for the first time testing the software on stars but the tables dont move back to stack when i fold a hand. The tables never move back to stack. I use the stackandtile layout. Why is that?
Are you using "Move to grid" = "When action required"?

Are you sure you've chosen the correct theme? Are you using a custom table graphics mod?

First thing I would try is to remove the site and re-Include it, paying special attention to press F10 to fold at the correct time. This allows SaT to re-grab the colors of the buttons.
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06-26-2014 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Are you using "Move to grid" = "When action required"?

Are you sure you've chosen the correct theme? Are you using a custom table graphics mod?

First thing I would try is to remove the site and re-Include it, paying special attention to press F10 to fold at the correct time. This allows SaT to re-grab the colors of the buttons.
Thanks!

The problem was that I was using PokerStars' in-built hotkeys and I folded with that, so it didn't work. When I'm just clicking fold instead of using hotkeys it works fine. But I've added hotkeys through StackAndTile option instead but it doesn't stack still when I fold with StackAndTile's in-built hotkeys but works fine when I just click fold instead. I'm using RButton without "~" prefix as fold hotkey if that matters. Why is that?

Last edited by Baruka; 06-26-2014 at 04:34 PM.
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06-26-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Baruka
Thanks!

The problem was that I was using PokerStars' in-built hotkeys and I folded with that, so it didn't work. When I'm just clicking fold instead of using hotkeys it works fine. But I've added hotkeys through StackAndTile option instead but it doesn't stack still when I fold with StackAndTile's in-built hotkeys but works fine when I just click fold instead. I'm using RButton without "~" prefix as fold hotkey if that matters. Why is that?
You'd want to use the "Fold+Stack" hotkey
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06-26-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
You'd want to use the "Fold+Stack" hotkey
Thanks, really liked the software so far. Going to buy it but last question. Why can't I find check as Action on hotkeys?
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06-26-2014 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Baruka
Thanks, really liked the software so far. Going to buy it but last question. Why can't I find check as Action on hotkeys?
You would use the "Call" hotkey for that.

Basically the Fold/Call/Bet hotkeys within SaT simply click the 1st/2nd/3rd buttons on the table respectively.
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06-27-2014 , 05:58 AM
does stack and tile work with usb controllers? (ps3 etc).
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06-27-2014 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It means that SaT cannot connect to its website to verify your license or trial. Usually this happens if the website is down for maintenance. When you get thismessage, you should try to connect to the website via your webbrowser and see if that is the case. If you cannot get to the website, then the problem is with the site. If you can get to the website, then there is a configuration problem on your system preventing the StackAndTile.exe program from connecting, perhaps a firewall or VPN type program (hola app)



2 hotkeys:
"Move to next grid slot"
"Stack Table"

both will do what they say, to move a table out and back. Those will likely be what you want. Alternatively you can move a table to specifically only slot 1 with a "Move table to Slot 1" hotkey.
hi,

the site works perfectly fine. I do not use a VPP / hola app(?) and Im not sure about the firewall. do you have a troubleshooter or something for this?
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06-27-2014 , 01:39 PM
Is there no option for sit out next bb as hotkey? There is an option for "sit out all tables" but no for sitting out next bb, which I find strange as I would think most users would find that hotkey more useful. Or am I missing something?
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06-27-2014 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Derpdeedoo
does stack and tile work with usb controllers? (ps3 etc).
Yes. You would just configure your controller to press certain keyboard keys within XPadder or whatever software/drivers you are using for your controller. Then you would just map SaT hotkeys to those same keyboard keys.
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06-27-2014 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
hi,

the site works perfectly fine. I do not use a VPP / hola app(?) and Im not sure about the firewall. do you have a troubleshooter or something for this?
No, I don't have a troubleshooter specifically for this. Something on your machine is blocking the SaT executable file from connecting to the internet. Usually this is a firewall. What version of Windows are you running? Do you have any security suite type program, such as an Anti Virus / Firewall combo? If so, you should try turning it off and seeing if that fixes the problem.
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06-27-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Baruka
Is there no option for sit out next bb as hotkey? There is an option for "sit out all tables" but no for sitting out next bb, which I find strange as I would think most users would find that hotkey more useful. Or am I missing something?
You are correct. You are not missing anything. I only recently added this hotkey. People requested it so that they could quickly pause their sessions and handle some urgent matter and then resume their session.

On first thought, you would think that a "sit out at next bb" would be more useful, and that may be true. But if you are playing 20 tables, and you want to sit out at next bb, on quite a few of those tables, you will be waiting a full round of action before you sit out. Perhaps this would only be useful at the end of a session when you are winding down your tables? I'm not sure. What did you have in mind?

Another thing to consider is that not all pokersites have a checkbox for "sit out next bb". Unlike other poker softwares, SaT is not specific to only a few pokerrooms, so I need to ensure that the features work in the largest majority of cases.
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06-27-2014 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
You are correct. You are not missing anything. I only recently added this hotkey. People requested it so that they could quickly pause their sessions and handle some urgent matter and then resume their session.

On first thought, you would think that a "sit out at next bb" would be more useful, and that may be true. But if you are playing 20 tables, and you want to sit out at next bb, on quite a few of those tables, you will be waiting a full round of action before you sit out. Perhaps this would only be useful at the end of a session when you are winding down your tables? I'm not sure. What did you have in mind?

Another thing to consider is that not all pokersites have a checkbox for "sit out next bb". Unlike other poker softwares, SaT is not specific to only a few pokerrooms, so I need to ensure that the features work in the largest majority of cases.
It's for the end of the sessions. When I'm playing alot of tables it's kind of mess to click the sit out next bb on all tables when playing with stackandtile. Couldn't you just add a "sit out next bb" hotkey for specific site like PokerStars, where an hotkey action is "sit out next bb PokerStars" if it's too much hassle to add all sites at once?

And from my experience, most sites have that option but may be wrong here.
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06-27-2014 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
No, I don't have a troubleshooter specifically for this. Something on your machine is blocking the SaT executable file from connecting to the internet. Usually this is a firewall. What version of Windows are you running? Do you have any security suite type program, such as an Anti Virus / Firewall combo? If so, you should try turning it off and seeing if that fixes the problem.
I have kaspersky, ill try turn it off

and windows 8 with classic shell
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06-27-2014 , 03:29 PM
okay well it works when I turn kaspersky off but that makes me quite vulnerable right..
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06-27-2014 , 03:51 PM
quick Q: when I drag a table out of my stack to slot x to think about a decision, is there some way for the table to get back into my stack as soon as I make the decision?or do i HAVE to press the hotkey ''stack table'' so it goes back into my originial stack of tables ?
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06-28-2014 , 05:04 AM
oh and whenever a new sng starts, it looks like SaT will let that table steal focus, which is very annoying

anything i can do to prevent that from happening?
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06-28-2014 , 09:44 AM
Hi Gregg,

Im testing SaT (again, tested it 5 years ago but decided only to use table ninja) and running a parallels windows 7 machine on my mac. I use holdem manager 1 and table ninja 1 besides it. I have two problems:

1. tables getting popped up randomly from time to time (in the stack slot) what makes me make terrible misclicks like shoving random hands.

2. the tables seem to lag up to 2 seconds until the go into the grid. Another problem which causes misclicks. they dont lag if i move the manually into the next slot.

I hope you can help me, i would love to use this program without these problems and buy it. These problems though makes me to turn it off instantly.

edit: yes, im running it as administrator
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