In SaT there is a secret hotkey: CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + T. Open up SaT. Click on the BCP table, and then press that hotkey. Some information will be copied to the clipboard. Then come back here and paste it for me.

[Wichita Falls 1/2 - 2 - No Limit - 1 / 2 Hold'em],[ATL:030DFD88]

Not sure if I did that right, let me know.

I was curious if it was possible to set different sizes to certain tables in one layout. For example, I play w/ 3 24inch monitors. I would like to have say Merge one size on one monitor, Bovada tables tiled on another monitor, etc?

Thanks,

Yes, you did it right. I'm not sure what your BlackChip site is using a different window class name than mine and the other normal WinningPoker sites. Do this: Right click save this file:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/BCP.ini

and put it in this folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\StackAndTile\Sites\

Then reopen SaT and you should find this custom site listed at the bottom of the drop down list. Choose it and then press Include Site

Although, since for some strange reason, your window class was different than the normal WinningPoker settings, maybe some of these other settings won't be accurate either. In that case, you'd need to select "Other" from the sites dropdown and then go through the custom site wizard.

All slots in a layout must be the same size. To accomplish what you want, you could attempt to run multiple instances of SaT simultaneously, with each instance running a different layout. People have done this in the past succesfully

I tried step 1, didn't work but I created an "other" and I believe its working now. Will update tomorrow if I run into anymore problems.

Thanks so much for the help!

I've been using an old version of SaT for a while, 2.4.11.

Upgraded today and the current version isn't working properly for my setup. This was playing only on PokerStars using hypersimple theme.

As far as I could tell, whenever the timebank button appeared it was screwing my tables up. It seemed like tables were popping up over the top of those that required action and had the timebank button present.

Would appreciate if you'd look into it. Have reverted to 2.4.11 for the time being. tyty.

Ive tried this programm for a couple of weeks now and i really like it!

How can i upgrade from the little version to the full version for a year?
Can i just buy the full version or do i have to stop the monthly smaal one first?

I'd need a bit more information.. Have you modded the gfx for the pre-action checkboxes? Is your table modded in any other way? Did you try removing and re-Including the site in the new version? What table size are you using? (can be gotten by clicking File->Current Layout and the settings are near the top). Are you using a custom site or the built-in PokerStarsHyperSimple?

You could have confirmed if in fact it was the timebank by running this standard Test, and see if tables were moving to the grid when the timebank was visible. Although I don't really see how the timebank could affect things..
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack
I just tested on a few different table sizes (default, medium, smallest) and it seemed to work for me, tables staying in the stack and popping out only when action is on me, not when the pre-action boxes were visible.

There was some changes in v2.50 which attempted to fix the need to change the gfx for HyperSimple theme. Actually it looks like we had some brief discussion about it starting here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...l#post41304758

I'd like to get it working for you, but I'm not sure what the problem is yet.. Looking forward to your response

Great

The second link in your receipt email will allow you to 'Manage your subscription'. There is a button there to cancel so you won't continue to be charged. Then you can sign up again for the yearly subscription through the website, and you'll get a new license code after checkout.

from PM, regarding BlackChipPoker:

First thing to check is if BCP made an update. Did you notice the client downloading an update when you logged in? We can check if this is the problem by using the same hotkey CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + T like last time by clicking on the table and then pressing it. We will compare the last value of the paste, which is the table_class, and see if it has changed. Please paste me the result again and we can compare. If that is the problem, then you'll need to update your custom site .ini file that was created with the new value. Of course you could go through the whole wizard again, but thats time consuming when really we only need one setting.

Also, you could try removing your custom site and then Including the builtin WinningPoker site and see if that works.

Its so strange that your client is showing a different table class that me. That should never really happen. But I do remember a random user reporting the same problem. What version of Windows are you on? Can you take a screenshot of your table? I'm curious to find out why this is the case.

@ChAAnt JC

How is the new version of SaT working with the focus betbox option? How is SaT comparing to TableNinja for you?

Thanks for getting back to me.

Ok so no mods to the table theme, except for the workaround adv-betting-box from classic. I do remember testing the new style and wasn't 100% it was working right for me. I'll do another test tomorrow without the changed betting box. I have all my tables at 745*451. I'm using PS7 Beta as well.

I don't think that test would show me anything because the tables were popping up fine when action on me. As long as I acted quickly everything was fine. It was when I was taking a long time on tables that tables seemed to keep popping to the front on-top of the table I most needed to act on.

[Wichita Falls 1/2 - 3 - No Limit - 1 / 2 Hold'em],[ATL:030EFD88] - think its the same as last one.

I'm using Windows 8. Tried going back and using WinningPoker and it didn't work.

Here's a screenshot.

Nope looks like it changed from ATL:030DFD88 to ATL:030EFD88

So you can open up your custom site .ini file and simply change the table_class line to match the new classname. The file will be located in the folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\StackAndTile\Sites\

Then save the file and restart SaT. That should fix it

I wonder if WinningPoker uses different window classes for Windows8. That could be it..

working now! thanks!

Thanks for this Greg - the focus bet box option will be really really helpful, I'm sure. As will the fact that tables now apparently stay in the same place in the grid.

I'm still having trouble with Winamax and 888 though. 888 is working now with standard theme but they're both stealing focus all the time. I'm playing tiled with 'never move to grid'. I did the 'Tables Will Not Stay in Stack' test, as requested and that wasn't it. They move back to the stack, as they're supposed to. Whenever action is required on WM/888 tables they automatically take focus, even when it's not their turn to act. I believe I have the settings right within the poker clients too.

Winamax - http://gyazo.com/0d18e2d40285f95f61f0f08d64026474
888 - http://gyazo.com/d207d7c5d4cc6b2a3cbc1b2f7c2b9ec1

The focus bet box option was added in the new version 2.65. You can turn it on in Advanced Options on the Sites tab. Please let me know how it works for you.

I'm not sure what you mean about the results of that test. You seem to contradict yourself in the last quoted sentence above.

The purpose of the Test is to determine if SaT is correctly detecting that action is required on the tables. You use 'Move to Grid' = When Action Required, put a table in the stack, and then see when it pops out into grid. If it pops out when it is your turn to act (aka when action is required), then everything is working correctly. If it pops out at other times, then this is a problem and may cause focus problems. You would want to see if you can notice at what specific times, or what triggers it. For example maybe when the advance action checkboxes are visible.

And if you have the Advanced Option in SaT, for 'Activate table when action required', turned off, then SaT shouldn't be stealing focus from any of these tables. But, even if you don't use this, you would want the Test to pass to make sure that SaT is detecting things correctly, because it uses this information in other features, for example the new betbox feature you requested.

The settings within the clients look correct.

Please let me know. I may have to help you manually on TeamViewer if you still can't get it going.

It seems like everytime I close BCP and reopen (the next day or whatever) it changes the table name. I copy/pasted it again today: ATL:031BFD88 which is different than the other ones we've had. So I just added this to the site file and now it works. Would be annoying to have to do this everyday tho.

Ok so I trialed the latest version without the adv-bet mod and it seemed to work absolutely fine, sorry if I wasted any of your time.

Just as an aside - When I'm only playing on PokerStars I let PS pop-up the tables rather than SaT as the tables seem to ping up a bit quicker. Is there any downside I am encountering by doing this in relation to SaT's functionality? I seem to recall editing a file in notepad to reduce the time taken for it to pop-up, if this is set really low does it screw anything up?

Is the client updating every day? Meaning, when you open BCP, does it download an update each time? Usually that is what happens on WinningPoker

You can try using the partial classname. Judging by the 3 so far, try using this "ATL:03" with no quotes. I do this for the built-in site so I don't need to update it as often.

No problem. If you still have problems let me know.

If you are only playing on one site, you should be fine. There is an unpublished setting in SaT to allow the program to scan faster, perhaps I gave that to you at one point. If you click on File->Current Layout, you can look for the "engine_delay" setting. The default is 300 (milliseconds). You may be able to safely go a little lower, but I haven't experimented greatly.

Usually I follow the mantra "if it aint broke, don't fix it". When/if you run into problems or annoyances, then you can look for some solutions and workarounds.

Hi Greg
I recently received a new license code and everything worked fine. Today though, when I press Start, a popup from SnT says that I need to enter my license code. But when I hit the About tab, the Register field is not lit so doesn't respond.
Another odd thing is that none of my hotkeys work, except the enable\disable key works so that I have to disable it in order to type this message.
I'm on Bovada if that has anything to do with this. Oh, and Bovada as far as I know has done another recent update.
Thanks

While the program is running, most of the settings are disabled. You'd need to press Stop and then re-enter it.

Are you sure you're running SaT as administrator? I know Bovada requires you to run as admin, so in that case, SaT would need to be run as admin as well in order to interact with the tables.

This solved my problem, thanks