I'm actually having more difficulty than I imagined.. this is the first time that the Stars software is being uncooperative when I would have expected otherwise

Also I just realized that Stars has an advanced multi table option to "Highlight bet amount", but I just tested it and it only seems to work if its option to "Pop up table when action required" is also turned on. And obviously we need that second option turned off.

Can you test and confirm if that works for you, or if it requires the "Pop up table" option as well?

Hey Greg,

Have you ever come across people having issues with 1) Clicks getting recognized by SaT but not the table, and 2) Not being able to type in bet amounts

I use the option "Tile table when action required", and don't have any overlap on my tiled tables at all. I also obviously have the "Pop table when action required" option set off for all sites.

The first issue happens mainly when I'm at or near my personal maximum table capacity (14-16 tables), which is a pretty bad issue to have. If I didn't have a pretty new computer with a good amount of power that's given me 0 issues, I would think it is my computer not being able to handle it, but I would hope that is not the case. Pretty much, usually when my grid is at capacity, I will click fold on a table, but the click won't be recognized by the poker site, but will get recognized by SaT as it goes back into my stack before popping back out because I still have action on me.

The second issue also is much more likely to happen when I have more tables. I'm not sure on this exactly, but I think it doesn't happen on Stars, and happens much more often on 888 and Party than other sites. Something is obviously stealing focus from the bet box, but I have no clue what it is.

I'm usually just running 5 poker sites, PT4, SaT, Skype, and Spotify, with my computer in "High performance" mode, for what its worth. I've always had these issues, but thought it was because I had a setup where tables from different sites would overlap. However, it has continued since changing to a setup where there is 0 overlap with tiled tables.

Thanks in advance for the help, I really do like the program a lot.

This hasn't been reported yet that I can remember. However, when I was developing this feature, I do remember running into the issue a few times. I specifically added code to make sure that SaT waits until the left click is released to try to fix it.

But when this happens, you are definitely clicking and releasing with your mouse, right? So SaT is correct in detecting the click? Its just that for some reason the poker site isn't responding to it?

ACTUALLY, I just tested it, and this is probably the problem:

It seems that SaT captures the click on the mouse DOWN, but doesn't stack the table until the mouse UP. So, if you click down on the Fold button, but hold the click and then move your mouse off the fold button and release, then of course the poker site won't click Fold because you've released the click outside of the Fold button. But SaT captured the click on the downpress, so it thinks that Fold was actually clicked.

Instead, SaT should probably wait to capture the click on the up-press. But
I believe I didn't originally do this because I ran into issues. I will need to revisit this. Thanks for reporting it.

Other 2p2 users ChAAnt JC has requested a feature to allow numpad to be sent to the betbox. Instead I will likely add an option to try to keep the betbox always focused, so this will probably help your problem once I develop it

He said that Stars doesn't automatically focus the betbox, and thats why this feature is needed. So you probably don't notice the problem on Stars because you always have to manually click the betbox anyway. But please see the previous post before yours, where I posted that Stars does infact have a "highlight betbox" option, but it seems to only work when its own "popup table when action required" is also turned on. Please confirm this.

As for 888 and Party, I don't know if their betboxes are supposed to be focused automatically by the site.

Perhaps what you're noticing is that the entire table is losing focus. This is probably more likely. You can test this by turning on the "Highlight active window" setting in Advanced Options

I don't have either "popup table" or "highlight betbox" enabled on Stars. I will try the "Highlight active window" to confirm that is the case. What would you suggest to make sure a table that I'm typing a bet amount doesn't lose focus? I have "Activate table when action required" in SaT Advanced Options turned off fwiw.

As far as the click not getting recognized by the poker site, it definitely isn't me clicking/holding and moving my mouse away from the fold button before releasing my click. I suspect, but am not positive, that it only happens when there is another table that needs action in my stack that is ready to take a spot in my tiled grid. It seems that if I focus on clicking more firmly, this is much less likely to happen fwiw.

Thanks for the quick help, I appreciate it

If SaT's adv option to "Activate table when action is required" is turned OFF, then I'm not sure what could be causing you to lose focus. But usually you'd want to keep that turned on. Is there a reason why you have it turned off? What is your Move To Grid setting?

I would definitely use the "Highlight active window" option for a while and see if you can notice if the entire table loses focus when you attempt to type a bet.

Well, when you're playing many tables and clicking fast, you could be clicking near the edge of the Fold button on the downpress, and then releasing outside of the button on the up press (release). I can't see any other reason why the pokersite would ignore your click. SaT doesn't send the table to the stack until after the up press, which is after the click should be finished being received by the table. In fact, SaT delays about 200ms before moving the table to give the pokersite time to register the click.

This would make sense why being more deliberate and firm with your clicks would cause the problem to not appear, because its likely that the release of the click is happening within the button, causing the poker site to register the click. As I see it, SaT's action of sending the table to the stack is a bug, and instead the table should not move, since the click was not within the button. I am looking into fixing this now, based on your report.

Of course, if you are using a custom site, and you didn't define the fold button region accurately, then SaT would also think that you clicked within the button and then attempt to re-stack the table as ewll.

Hi Greg,

SaT wasn't working for me today as of around 2:00a EST (June 14). When I click start it freezes after a little while (it never actually starts) and then gives me the following error message. Not sure if the SaT website/server is down/undergoing maintenance but, if not, can you please advise:

I had the same problem. You can usually confirm it by actually trying to visit the website at www.stackandtile.com/sat/ If you can get to the website no problem, but the software reports this message, then usually the problem is local to your machine, meaning you have some type of firewall blocking access to the SaT executable file.

But in this case, for me, both the software was not working, along with the website, so I was sure the webserver was down. I contacted my hosting provider but they haven't responded yet as to what the problem was.

But as of right now 2:30am, it looks like the website is back up and the software is working again.

Hey Greg, I think you're right about the Stars option to send to bet box not working when also using SaT. It's not working for me either.

Am having trouble setting up 888 with any table theme at the moment - focus is constantly on the 888 tables. I created a custom ini file but am having trouble importing it in to one of my already created config files. How do I do this? Any help with a walk-through on this would be much appreciated. I'm struggling.

Thanks Greg - it's indeed working for me as well. Off to a day at the races... Thanks again!

I believe I have a working feature to focus the bet box. I hope to put out the next SaT version in the next couple days, and hopefully it will satisfy you. I've gotten it working on most major sites: Stars, FTP, etc

888 can sometimes be a pain, but usually it can work. Did you try using the 888 table with no mod, and the Test I posted before was failing? Would the tables constantly stay in the grid and not be able to return to the stack?

I would first try this, just to make sure that the built in settings are working. Use the default 888 table theme without any mods. Create a new layout with File->New Layout. Resize an 888 table with your mouse to a mediumish table size that you like. Then press F7 as SaT asks. Then in this new layout, Include the builtin '888PacificPoker' site. Then run this Test and see if action required is correctly detected:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

The above SHOULD work. Now, if it does, and you're happy with that grid slot size, then you can just include your other pokersites as well and continue anew with that layout.

As for the custom site, after you've gone through the wizard and created the custom site .ini file, then you would just return to the Sites tab within SaT, and choose the custom site from the dropdown (it should be at the very bottom) and then click Include Site as normal.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...-site-tutorial

I turned off that option just because I figured that might be where the issue was, and have never had any issues from turning it off so never switched it back. My Move To Grid setting is "When action required".

Do you think the "Activate table under mouse" advanced option could help with focus not getting stolen from a betbox that I clicked and am typing a bet into?

Hrm ok.. Maybe what was happening is that you manually clicked on a table and started entering a bet, and then SaT saw another table that was 'more urgent'. But I'm pretty sure I made it so that it never steals focus from another table that requires action, and especially if you have that SaT option off. If you notice that it happens mostly with 888 and Party, I would suggest you run this Test to ensure that action required is correctly being detected by SaT, just to rule out a potential cause:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

Yeah that could help. You would def want to use the highlighter in conjunction as well, so you can know which window is active and focused.

Btw, I've fixed that bug in the left click detection on the mousedown/mouseup, and I hope to put out a new release soon. So I will be curious to see if you notice that other issue after you upgrade and play some sessions

v 2.65

changelog:
http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=3916#pid3916

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/

Okay so I think I figured out the issue today, although I have no idea how to fix it.

I noticed that what is happening, is when my grid is full, and there is an iPoker table in my stack, it will fight whatever table I am taking action on for SaT's focus. The red border around the table would shoot back and forth between my stack and the table I was acting on super quick. As long as I didn't have a full grid and there wasn't an iPoker table in my stack, this issue would never happen.

If you can't think of anyway to fix this, I'm going to remove and re-add iPoker on SaT and report back after the next session I put in.

Interesting. These are good clues.

First, I would ask: Does the table in the grid that you are attempting to act on require your action? Is it your turn to act? Or are you attempting to act on the pre-action checkboxes? I'm guessing that it is truly your turn to act, because you initially noticed the problems when trying to type in a bet. And the betbox is only visible when it is your turn.

But definitely remove and re-Include iPoker. Thats a good start. Then run this Test with one iPoker table and ensure that it works properly:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

Then, double check that you've turned off the options within iPoker so that it doesn't take focus from other tables. Confirm that these settings are working without SaT. Put a notepad window partially on top of your table, and see if the table steals focus from notepad when its your turn to act. Because by the sound of what you're saying, I would think that iPoker and SaT are both fighting to give focus to a table.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/ipoker-focus.png

But its strange because you say that you had turned off SaT's option to "Activate table when action required". So then really neither SaT nor iPoker should be trying to give focus, and I would think that the border highlight would only change when you manually click on a table. Are you running any other software that may be trying to give focus?

And with the new update, please check and see if you notice your other error anymore with the clicks not registering on the pokersite but SaT still sending the table back to the stack. I would think these should no longer happen in v2.65

Hi, i m trying out the soft for the first time. I m having issue adding modern partypoker to my sites, note that i m playing on pmu.fr which use the modern party poker skin. When i F9 the table, it does recognize it but says that it s not matching with the site.

So i tried to add it manually as "other site" but when it comes the operation of "attach" the table, nothing happens when i clik on it. I tried to put dimension manually but when i go forward with the process, the soft ask me to go back and attach the table which i m unable to do.

Note that i had only one table open as it says and i also tried set it up as PartyPokerClassic but unsuccesfully.

Ah, I have never heard of that skin, so I hadn't added support for it. Here's what you can do. In SaT there is a secret hotkey: CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + T. Open up SaT. Click on the pmu.fr lobby, and then press that hotkey. Some information will be copied to the clipboard. Then come back here and paste it for me.

Setting it up as a custom site should have worked. Perhaps you are running the pokersite as administrator, in which case you'll also need SaT to be run as administrator too.

This could also be why the F9 failed above, but like I said I had never heard of that skin so its unlikely to work with the builtin site settings.

That s what i get:

[PMU Poker: Poker Lobby - Good luck fr3nchfish ],[#32770]

Not working ffor the second part of mesage, the site was not running as admin btw. I must be doing something wrong

Ok good. I will include support for this skin in the next release. For now, you can do this. Download this file:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/PartyPMU.ini

and put it in this folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\StackAndTile\Sites\

Then reopen SaT and you should find this custom site listed at the bottom of the drop down list. Choose it and then press Include Site

I'm having problem getting S&T to register blackchip poker. It worked the last 2 weeks but now it won't detect the table, says the window does not match the table classname or lobby process. I updated to 2.65 and have tried restarting both the poker application and S&T and removing/adding winning poker multiple times.

I just logged in and didn't see any update for BlackChip or any of the Winning network sites. I then tried SaT and it detected the tables fine.

When SaT gives the error saying that the window doesn't match, SaT also lists the window title that you clicked on. Are you certain that you clicked on the BlackChip table?

Also, if you are running BlackChip as administrator, then you'd also need to make sure that SaT is running as administrator as well.

When i click on the link, i dont get to download anything, i only get an internet page where there is a code, but i don t get a file . What am i missing?

Right click -> save as

Awesome, it s working! Thanks

I tried running BCP as admin and S&T as admin, and both as default. No luck. It detects the table correctly but says the table does not match the site. It's definitely BCP and I'm trying to add "winningpoker" site to S&T.