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06-04-2014 , 08:19 PM
I just tried to set up Borgata Poker NJ using 'PartyPokerModern'. It isn't recognizing the tables. Safe to say you don't support that site?
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06-04-2014 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stosh
I just tried to set up Borgata Poker NJ using 'PartyPokerModern'. It isn't recognizing the tables. Safe to say you don't support that site?
yeah probably not. Assuming that it is simply another Party skin, I can add it next version if you give me some information. There is a secret hotkey in SaT: "CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + T". Open up Borgata Poker, click on the lobby, and press the hotkey. It will copy some information to the clipboard. Just come back and paste it for me
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06-04-2014 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
yeah probably not. Assuming that it is simply another Party skin, I can add it next version if you give me some information. There is a secret hotkey in SaT: "CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + T". Open up Borgata Poker, click on the lobby, and press the hotkey. It will copy some information to the clipboard. Just come back and paste it for me
Ok, PM'ing you now.
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06-05-2014 , 01:53 PM
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I can probably close this popup. I am going out of town for the weekend and I don't want to put out a new release when I won't be around, incase something goes wrong. I'll add this in the next release
bovada's working great now. Thanks
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06-05-2014 , 08:44 PM
on wpn, the tables don't seem to pop up correctly all the time, and the scroll wheel does not adjust the bet size. I assume the two are related. Can you fix? Thanks.
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06-06-2014 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HateTheBeach
on wpn, the tables don't seem to pop up correctly all the time, and the scroll wheel does not adjust the bet size. I assume the two are related. Can you fix? Thanks.
did it used to work? was there an update recently?
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06-06-2014 , 03:56 AM
So i'm back to travelling and therefore back to playing on my laptop. I created an entirely new layout, but am having a problem with Full Tilt. My grid looks like this: 1 2 5
3 4 6

my stack slot is 6 and my new tables slot is 5. I have old tables set to slot 0.I open up all my poker room and then sent all of my tables to the stack. When I do this 4 full tilt tables immediately go to grids 1-4, while the rest remain in my stack. When i try to sent any Full Tilt table from any grid slot 1-4 to the stack another from the stack instantly replaces it. I'm running FTP classic with midnight theme. Windows 7 aero theme with dwm scan. FTP tables are also forcing themselves on top in my stack slot as well. I can't seem to figure out the issue.

Thanks
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06-06-2014 , 04:34 AM
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06-06-2014 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Warder
So i'm back to travelling and therefore back to playing on my laptop. I created an entirely new layout, but am having a problem with Full Tilt. My grid looks like this: 1 2 5
3 4 6

my stack slot is 6 and my new tables slot is 5. I have old tables set to slot 0.I open up all my poker room and then sent all of my tables to the stack. When I do this 4 full tilt tables immediately go to grids 1-4, while the rest remain in my stack. When i try to sent any Full Tilt table from any grid slot 1-4 to the stack another from the stack instantly replaces it. I'm running FTP classic with midnight theme. Windows 7 aero theme with dwm scan. FTP tables are also forcing themselves on top in my stack slot as well. I can't seem to figure out the issue.

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It sounds like the classic problem of SaT always thinking that action is required:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

Have you tried removing and re-Including FTP? Try that first.

If that doesn't work, try creating a new layout, with a slightly larger or smaller size. Use File->New Layout, resize an FTP table with your mouse to a slightly larger or smaller size, then click that table and press F7 when asked. Then try Including the site and see if that works.
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06-06-2014 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It sounds like the classic problem of SaT always thinking that action is required:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

Have you tried removing and re-Including FTP? Try that first.

If that doesn't work, try creating a new layout, with a slightly larger or smaller size. Use File->New Layout, resize an FTP table with your mouse to a slightly larger or smaller size, then click that table and press F7 when asked. Then try Including the site and see if that works.
Removing and readding FTP did the trick. I'm not sure why it worked, but it worked.
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06-06-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Removing and readding FTP did the trick. I'm not sure why it worked, but it worked.
perhaps when you initially included FTP, you were using a different table theme
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06-06-2014 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
did it used to work? was there an update recently?
it worked the previous time I played, which may have been a few days ago. Those guy seem to always putting out minor updates. Thanks.
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06-07-2014 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HateTheBeach
on wpn, the tables don't seem to pop up correctly all the time, and the scroll wheel does not adjust the bet size. I assume the two are related. Can you fix? Thanks.


v2.64

http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=3897#pid3897

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/
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06-07-2014 , 01:06 PM
Hey Greg, I'm just getting set up now. I'm having a little trouble with FTP (not resizing tables and not finding the bet buttons) but I think I'll figure that out myself. I'm also finding Party Poker problematic but I have a mod - what's the best way to set this up or do I need to not use the mod if I want to play at Party? Screenshot below...

http://gyazo.com/4691da8413245a161f9c2984338ccc6c
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06-08-2014 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ChAAnt JC
Hey Greg, I'm just getting set up now. I'm having a little trouble with FTP (not resizing tables and not finding the bet buttons) but I think I'll figure that out myself.
If tables aren't resizing then it usually means that SaT isn't detecting them altogether..

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I'm also finding Party Poker problematic but I have a mod - what's the best way to set this up or do I need to not use the mod if I want to play at Party? Screenshot below...

http://gyazo.com/4691da8413245a161f9c2984338ccc6c
Have you tried including the PartyPokerModern site? The only way to know is to try it and see if there are problems
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06-09-2014 , 07:51 PM
Hi Greg, I got the sites set up in the end thanks. A couple of other things, though...

1) My 888 & Winamax tables keep popping when it's time to act even if that table isn't the next in line, if that makes sense. They're stealing focus. I think I have the settings correct in the clients but I could be wrong. I made a fair few misclicks yesterday. 888 is particularly cumbersome.

2) Is there a way to stop the tables from re-positioning themselves when re-starting the software?

3) Is it possible to have more than one table in each slot? I play tiled mostly but with 12 slots and would like to have certain slots have stacks of, say, turbos, rebuys, freezeouts etc. As it is, I can only have one table per slot.

4) And finally, you said it'd be pretty easy to sort out sending number pad to bet box on Stars. If you could make this happen I for one would really appreciate it. Full Tilt too if it's possible, though I think I remember you saying that this was more complex.

Thanks man. Getting on really well with the software so far, just a few little niggles to iron out.
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06-09-2014 , 11:20 PM
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1) My 888 & Winamax tables keep popping when it's time to act even if that table isn't the next in line, if that makes sense. They're stealing focus. I think I have the settings correct in the clients but I could be wrong. I made a fair few misclicks yesterday. 888 is particularly cumbersome.
First make sure that each site's own "pop tables to top" function is turned off:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/focus-stealing

If those are correctly turned off, then you'd need to run this test:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...not-stay-stack

This triggers SaT's detection for when action is required. If something is amiss, then the tables will pop out of the stack and into the grid at the wrong time. You would want to check and see if you notice any patterns. This will help us diagnose the problem. For example, a common one is that tables move to the grid when the pre-action checkboxes are visible instead of the actual action buttons.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...rid-wrong-time

Another problem with 888 is that the action buttons have so little color; they are gray with only a sliver of color at their bottoms. SaT tries to see the color in that small area but sometimes it misses. This can sometimes be remedied by making a new layout and slightly changing the grid slot sizes a littler larger, although then you have the inconvenience of setting all your sites up again.

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2) Is there a way to stop the tables from re-positioning themselves when re-starting the software?
This is actually annoying, I know, and its been this way for a while. Unfortunately there is no way currently. I'm guessing you're using New Tables = grid? I will look into fixing this for the next version

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3) Is it possible to have more than one table in each slot? I play tiled mostly but with 12 slots and would like to have certain slots have stacks of, say, turbos, rebuys, freezeouts etc. As it is, I can only have one table per slot.
Another often requested feature. Currently there can only be 1 stack which can hold multiple tables, and all the grid slots hold only 1 table each. I haven't figured out a way to handle this smoothly. I suppose since you're not using the Move To Grid function, and instead only moving tables manually, then this wouldn't be a problem for you. I will think about this as well, perhaps I can make a change that would allow this if using Move To Grid = Never. This would change the fundamental structure of the program so it may not be as easy

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4) And finally, you said it'd be pretty easy to sort out sending number pad to bet box on Stars. If you could make this happen I for one would really appreciate it. Full Tilt too if it's possible, though I think I remember you saying that this was more complex.
I will do some testing. Most likely it won't work for FTP. Probably it will work for the same sites that the Increse/Decrease bet hotkeys work on, which is: PokerStars, PartyPoker, 888Poker, Merge, WinningPoker

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Thanks man. Getting on really well with the software so far, just a few little niggles to iron out.
Good to hear. Yeah a lot of it comes down to customizing things to your play style. The software is pretty versatile but obviously more can always be done.
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06-10-2014 , 02:16 AM
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3) Is it possible to have more than one table in each slot? I play tiled mostly but with 12 slots and would like to have certain slots have stacks of, say, turbos, rebuys, freezeouts etc. As it is, I can only have one table per slot.
Ooops I forgot to put in my previous post.. one workaround to this is to add extra grid slots with the "+" button, and then place them directly on top of the other slots. People have come up with that solution in the past. However, I cannot guarantee that the tables will not steal focus from each other. I am considering if I will tackle a proper solution
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06-10-2014 , 07:09 AM
Thanks for the quick and detailed responses.

Re: 888/Winamax tables popping, I'm pretty sure I have the "tables to top" functions turned off but I'll check. I'm using a mod with 888 - could this be causing the problem there?

http://gyazo.com/3a04331c16889eaed5e2e01b5fd13ccb

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I'm guessing you're using New Tables = grid? I will look into fixing this for the next version
That'd be great, thanks. I'm using 'Tile Tables' and 'Move to Grid' - 'Never'.

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Another often requested feature. Currently there can only be 1 stack which can hold multiple tables, and all the grid slots hold only 1 table each.
No probs. I'll try your workaround for now and see how I get on.

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I will do some testing. Most likely it won't work for FTP. Probably it will work for the same sites that the Increse/Decrease bet hotkeys work on, which is: PokerStars, PartyPoker, 888Poker, Merge, WinningPoker..
Again, great, thanks. Stars is the main one for me - Party, 888 and Winamax all send to betbox as standard so unnecessary there. Stars is a real pain though, as is FTP, which I can't get to do anything useful at all. I have the left and right buttons set to decrease/increase bet sizes and they don't work. Neither does the scroll button on my mouse.
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06-10-2014 , 10:15 AM
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Thanks for the quick and detailed responses.

Re: 888/Winamax tables popping, I'm pretty sure I have the "tables to top" functions turned off but I'll check. I'm using a mod with 888 - could this be causing the problem there?

http://gyazo.com/3a04331c16889eaed5e2e01b5fd13ccb
Yes this will probably cause a problem. Did you run the test I linked? My guess is that the table will never stay in the stack, and always try to stay in the grid, because SaT will think that action is always required. Your mod has removed the small sliver of color that is usually present at the bottom of the buttons. Compare:

http://www.pokerrefugees.eu/_images/...oker-table.jpg

If you insist on keeping your mod, then the alternative would be to go through the Custom Site Wizard by choosing 'Other' from the Sites drop down. This is a longer process but might allow you to get it to work. Specifically, when you are asked to grab the fold button coordinate, you want to click on the middle of the fold button where its a lighter shade of gray. Then I can give you another setting to add that will try to match exactly that color with no allowance for variation. Although this may cause problems if the button 'highlights' and changes shade when you hover your mouse.

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Again, great, thanks. Stars is the main one for me - Party, 888 and Winamax all send to betbox as standard so unnecessary there. Stars is a real pain though, as is FTP, which I can't get to do anything useful at all. I have the left and right buttons set to decrease/increase bet sizes and they don't work. Neither does the scroll button on my mouse.
Yeah unfortunately the Increase/Decrease bet hotkeys in SaT only work on a few sites listed here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/hotkeys

Those are the only sites that programatically expose the betbox control and allow me access. As I was thinking about the numpad-to-betbox problem last night, I considered that a workaround for FTP and other sites would be to simply send a crude mouse click to the betbox, then perform clipboard operations such as: CTRL+A, CTRL+X, do math, CTRL+V. I consider this a hack of a solution, and have no idea how reliable it would be. My guess is that this is what TN is doing as well, which is why you noticed the poor performance there. I prefer to send as few clicks as possible, but this workaround would allow me to support other sites which aren't as friendly.
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06-10-2014 , 08:28 PM
i'd like to get a subscription but my paypal is not working, do you take bitcoins yet?
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06-10-2014 , 08:49 PM
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Yes this will probably cause a problem. Did you run the test I linked? My guess is that the table will never stay in the stack, and always try to stay in the grid, because SaT will think that action is always required. Your mod has removed the small sliver of color that is usually present at the bottom of the buttons. Compare:
Ahhh, ok. I'll see if there's another setting on the mod where the buttons are a different colour. There are quite a lot of options. If that doesn't work I'll try resorting to the standard, non-modded 888. Would prefer it were working than looking nice.

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Yeah unfortunately the Increase/Decrease bet hotkeys in SaT only work on a few sites listed here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/hotkeys

Those are the only sites that programatically expose the betbox control and allow me access. As I was thinking about the numpad-to-betbox problem last night, I considered that a workaround for FTP and other sites would be to simply send a crude mouse click to the betbox, then perform clipboard operations such as: CTRL+A, CTRL+X, do math, CTRL+V. I consider this a hack of a solution, and have no idea how reliable it would be. My guess is that this is what TN is doing as well, which is why you noticed the poor performance there. I prefer to send as few clicks as possible, but this workaround would allow me to support other sites which aren't as friendly.
That makes sense, yeah, given what you said about not wanting to be a TN replacement. I would personally very much appreciate an attempt at this though, on the understanding that it was at my own risk. There's just so much clicking to do if I'm playing 6 sites and every time I wanna make a bet that's not a set amount in the client, I have to do it manually. Sounds very lazy but over the course of 5-6k hands this gets tiresome. Especially when you're OCD and round everything to the nearest 5! Stars is most important though.
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06-10-2014 , 10:33 PM
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i'd like to get a subscription but my paypal is not working, do you take bitcoins yet?
yeah we could work this out. you got PM
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06-10-2014 , 10:37 PM
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That makes sense, yeah, given what you said about not wanting to be a TN replacement. I would personally very much appreciate an attempt at this though, on the understanding that it was at my own risk. There's just so much clicking to do if I'm playing 6 sites and every time I wanna make a bet that's not a set amount in the client, I have to do it manually. Sounds very lazy but over the course of 5-6k hands this gets tiresome. Especially when you're OCD and round everything to the nearest 5! Stars is most important though.
I'm working on it. And as far as the numpad-to-betbox, it may infact be easier by just having an option to keep the betbox focused and highlighted. That way any input will go directly there, whether its numpad or regular number keys too. I think this is what Winamax does which is where I got that idea
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