yes.

you would use a "Keep table in grid" hotkey, which essentially "locks" a table into the grid. the table will never respond to any Fold clicks or "Stack" hotkeys until you toggle off the "Keep table in grid" hotkey again.

also, you can always move tables manually to whichever slot you want to, using a "Move to Next Slot" hotkey. so if you're at a final table, you can move the table to the slot that you want it in

the table remains in the stack and will continue to pop up in the stack as action is required

yes.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/hotkeys
"External VPIP key"

thanks greg.

If i shove preflop, I do not want those tables to move to the grid - is this possible?

If i use the move to grid "on flop" option, will external hotkeys still work?

I'm looking at the trial version now and wondering if I can just use SaT for all hotkeys. Is there any reason why "check" and "allin" aren't options?

TYTY

does a postflop hand that has been stuck in the stack due to no slots jump into the grid when one opens up?

hey greg there is a small bug in your full tilt build when i play a tournament and want to open the window where i can see the cash prizes for all places Stack and tile recognize this window as a table

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if you are using Move To Grid = After Entering Pot, then SaT will recognize the click on the bet button and move the table.

you have a few options

1. set up a "Bet+Stack" hotkey and use that when you want to shove. then SaT will click bet, will probably then move the table into the grid based on your Move To Grid setting, and then the hotkey would restack the table.

2. turn off 'Left Click Detection' in Advanced Options. then no mouse clicks would be detected inside the fold/call/bet button areas. so you would need to set up hotkeys or External VPIP hotkeys for SaT to move tables to grid, and then when you want to shove, you'd mouseclick on the bet button

of course. you wouldn't even need to set up External VPIP hotkeys within SaT because SaT has no need to know when you click call/bet. however if you want the table to return to the stack when you fold, you'd probably want to use the Fold+Stack hotkey within SaT

i was just gonna ask if there is there a reason why you want to use external hotkeys instead of SaT ones. SaT hotkeys for fold/call/bet simply click the three buttons from left to right order on the table. so the "check" hotkey is usually the same as the "call" hotkey. the pokersites just change the words but use the same 2nd button.

"allin" is different simply because there is no button. it requires moving the slider or putting in a large number in the box, and then clicking bet. this is unreliable across every site because not all poker sites respond the same. some sites don't allow me to control the betbox easily.

to get around this, i instead added 'BetSize' hotkeys which will click the appropriate buttons on the table
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/bet-size-hotkeys

the only real reason to use external hotkey software is if you want specific pot% functionality. SaT is designed to be a table management software. it is not designed to be a replacement for TableNinja and all of its hotkey functions, although many people do

thank you sir

Appreciate the help greg.

It looks like I have set SaT up to do all my hotkey'ing for me now. The only other issue I can see for now is that SaT seems to be over-riding my TN setting to auto-sit back in when I sit-out/time-out at a table. When SaT isn't running I get sat back in automatically but it doesn't work when it is running. Is there a fix for this issue?

Thanks again. Most likely subscribing if I can iron out these issues.

ehhhh, SaT shouldn't be doing this.. SaT never clicks any sit out button. are you certain SaT is doing this and not some other software? can you reproduce it consistently? open one table, time out, watch and see if TN sits you back in. then start SaT and do the same again and see.

v 2.54

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/

http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=3127#pid3127

this should fix the bug where custom sites would always stay in the grid because SaT would think they always required action. please confirm

the bet scroll wheel does not work on WPN. Not sure if it's 2.54 or a WPN update. Probably the latter.

i'm assuming you mean the Increase/Decrease Bet hotkeys

but yes it seems another WinningPoker update

v 2.55

http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=3145#pid3145

Loving your software; Auto time bank would be great though; even if you could do it for the most popular sites (Stars, FT)

nvm got it fixed

Oops sorry I missed that you asked this.

I was still running into problems with the new version even with the adv-betbutton graphics changed, so I'm currently using an old version from Oct or Nov.

Ok. Perhaps I'll revert to the old fold button location and just recommend that everyone change the graphics. I agree its a pretty easy workaround. We'll see.

my trial period has expired, i am not a paid member. in the past i believe u granted me two trial periods, so thanks for that. I still have not bought S&T because I have not needed it.

Anyway, i am thinking of playing on WPN, if i can ever get something set up nicely, nothing seems to compare to Merge as far as software goes for usa players

When attempting to set up WPN, again, im not a paid memeber I got the following error:
Failure: wichita falls 1/2 - no limit - 1/2 hold'em doesn't match for this site (this is a play money table)

I am trying this on BCP, a WPN skin. i clicked the table to give it focus and then hit F9 as I was told to do. Whats the problem here?

Perhaps you don't have the latest SaT version? WinningPoker constantly puts out updates which breaks the software so I need to issue updates regularly

Hey guys,

Just trying this out so excuse me if this is a very basic question but how do i make it so that the hotkeys work, not just whilst the mouse is hovering over the table which requires action? Also, is there anyway to have a coloured border around the table which requires action? Have attached a screen grab of my advance settings.

Thanks in advance.

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First of all great product. I love it and currently use it to "Tile" MTTs and SnGs from multiple sites.

However, I'm considering testing and using the "stack and tile tables" function of the product. I was going to try and do it where it moves to the grid "when dealt cards."

A couple of questions.

Do the tables stay in the grid until I'm out of the hand?

What happens if say I'm dealt cards on 9+ tables at the same time? Do the additional tables stay in the dedicated stack or do they go on top of other ones on the grid?

I'm just a little unfamiliar about how to set it up and scared of time outs on hidden tables.

I currently use Pokertracker 4, TableNinja, TimebankButler, and PartyEZCASH in addition to StackandTile. They work great together in "tile mode". Hopefully the same can be said once I start working the other function.

You can change this in Advanced Options -> Hotkeys tab at the top.

You have the option to send the hotkeys to the table underneath the mouse or to the table that is active (focused)

Check the box in Advanced Options that says "Highlight active window"

Thank you sir. I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you.

Keep in mind that this is a new feature that was only released recently so there may be some bugs...

Tables always stay in the grid until you either click Fold with the mouse or until you send a "Stack table" hotkey. This is with the default settings.

You can also enable the Advanced Option to "Stack Table at End of Hand" and also "Include holecard detection". You can read more about these on the website, but suffice it to say that when the hand is over, the table will be sent back to the stack automatically.

If all grid slots are full, the tables remain in the stack until a grid slot frees up. The tables should pop to the top of the stack so that you can see and act on them.

Yes this is a concern. The best workaround that I've come up with is the concept of 'Old Tables'. You can read about them on the help pages as well. Basically if a table hasn't required action within X minutes, then the table will be moved to the grid. So if by chance a table times out in the bottom of the stack and you don't see it, then the table will move into the grid so that you can see whats going on. Maybe you've timed out. Maybe the table has closed. Etc. You can configure the duration. By default its 5 minutes. Usually 5 minutes you will only miss a hand or two at the most. You can make it shorter but then obviously you may get false positives where tables move into grid simply because someone has stalled on their action. But that may be preferable that missing a hand.

Are custom made table themes (for stars) compatible with this software?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, as long as the Fold button color is different than the background color around the table.

Within SaT you should include the Stars site theme that the custom theme is based off of. Otherwise you would need to select "Other" and go through the custom site wizard

Thanks, when setting up the tables move to grid when "dealt cards" the program ask for me to click on the white of the cards. Currently I'm using a four color deck and non of the cards are white, using full colors. Is it possible to get it to work using this deck or do I have to use the cards with the white background color?