I like the hotkeys for every network, but would it be possible to adjust raise sizing with them? Currently your hotkey always minraises, which is def not ideal .

Ok so I've tried a work around, it could be something to do with my keyboard although it works perfectly afaik so I dunno, but I tried using the On Screen Keyboard to set up Merge which worked in regards to F9.

Unfortunately it won't fold my cards when setting it up. "Attempted to fold at coords 257 by 466". Have tried it multiple times. This is on default theme.

Just to make sure I went through the on screen keyboard to set up PokerStarsBlack and that did all work and folded my cards etc.

all the hotkeys do is press the Fold/Call/Bet buttons. so whatever bet amount is currrently in the box, that is what will get sent. building a full BetPot solution is very difficult and not the most reliable, and the maintenance and support would be an absolute nightmare and definitely not worth it for me. id probably price that at like 100/mo and people would want to hang me even more all the while i'd probably barely pay the rent. maybe i should offer ppl a profit split deal where i take 5-10% of all their profits, then it might be worth it for me to build hah

ultimately SaT was not designed to bet a full BetPot-like hotkey program, rather a table management program. care was taken to make sure that other hotkey software can be used in conjunction.

ok, well if the On Screen Keyboard works, then something is definitely blocking the F9 on your system. i was thinking of adding another hotkey besides F9 in case other people run into this

as for the failed Fold, that is a problem. if merge has changed their table layouts yet again, then that could be the issue. can you click on the menu File->Current Layout, and tell me your grid slot tablewidth/tableheight ? is should be one of the settings at the top of the file. and also, what was the merge settings that SaT was saying it tried to use? was it MergeBig?

thanks

Everything working now pretty well. Only problem is with 888 poker, I can't get hotkey to work(fold), it just keeps going to stack and back, but not folding. Now I need to actually click fold button to make it work. Other than that, everything working perfectly, after I got used to all features. AWESOME PROGRAM!

Hey man, thanks for all your swift responses btw.

Grid slots are 745 x 541. It mentioned 'MergeBig', yes.

it could be that my built in settings are off for your grid table size.

it should work if you are willing to go through the Custom Site Creator. select 'Other' from the Sites drop down list and then follow the wizard, and then after that you can Include your custom site

yeah, MergeBig should work with that size...

can you also try using the Custom Site Creator and see if that works?

Okay, I'll try that.

Sighhhh, just went through the whole custom site creator for Merge, and when it came around to adding it, it did exactly the same thing.

"Attempted to fold at coords 276 by 466. Apparently this didn't work"

man i know you are frustrated

i just created a new grid layout with 745x542, and i included Merge, SaT used MergeBig settings, and i folded fine. this was on carbon poker play money

are you using some mod or anything?

PM me your skype name and i can take a look

It seems SAT is not currently working with true poker, at least for me.

I loaded up some tables earlier and no functions were working, hotkeys, stacking/tiling/notifications etc. The program wasn't recgonziing any of the tables.

I then went to re-set up the site, and get this error message on the first step of setup:

"ERROR. Table detection did not work. Windows does not match the table classname or the lobby process. You can Cancel this and try again, making sure that you actually CLICK on the table to give it focus."

i would be interested in using ur program once FT is back in combination with Stars and FT.

however I do already stack and have 3 other slots which i can access with an AHK script and hotkeys. i put tables out of teh stack manually and def. will keep it like that. once i take FT in teh stack as well i doubt actions will be syncronised, so i will not be able to play both table types from one stack bc of teh danger of misclicking.

therefore i would need stack and tile. However i'm missing the options at teh hotkeys like: "move table to slot 1"; "move table slot 2" etc.

at teh moment i can manually access teh stack "move table to stack" and the slot for new tables "move table to new tables slot" with hotkeys. however the other both i can only access via "next slot" and "previous slot" which is confusing and a pain in teh ass - tried it this afternoon and i could not make it work properly...


is there a possibity you can add manual hotkeys for different specific slots in a new version? then i really might give it a go...

thanks and cheers

yep, i just checked and TruePoker updated their software, i need to put out an update for SaT

you can always select 'Other' from the Sites dropdown menu and go through the custom site wizard, but that takes a little bit of time. however, once you have the custom config it is quick to make the change when TruePoker updates

indeed thats exactly the purpose

as you note, unfortunately, there is only "Move to NEXT slot" and "Move to PREVIOUS slot" hotkeys. usually people just move tables into the next free grid slot, i find it strange that you would do it differently

1|2
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3|4

suppose stack slot 1, and grid is all free. would you really send tables into slot 3 or 4 first? it just seems werid to me.. usually for me its like, "oh important table, move this out of the stack to think more, back to playing out of the stack, oh another interesting decision, move this out of the stack too" etc.

how do you play?

I got a semi working version through going through the custom site setup. I'm pretty awful with this kind of stuff so I'm sure that had an effect on it.

Typically how long does an update like this take to roll out? Not hounding you for one, just as a new customer I have no reference of how updates work and am just wondering if I should continue to tinker with my config or just wait for the update.

Thanks!

usually updates only occur when there are bugfixes needed or new features developed

obvioulsy now that i know about the broken site, i will actively work on an update. i cant give an exact timeframe but ill need at least a few days.

but the custom site creator was designed for instances like this. it seems that TruePoker changes their table classname each time they roll out an update to their poker client, and as long as that remains the only change and not something like moving the buttons around, then it will be a quick fix for you to change each time they do it, without waiting for me to push out the new SaT version

if you tell me whats wrong with the "semi working custom config" maybe i can assist

I think the main two hangups I am currently having are:

1. When presented with the options "Fold, Check, Bet" the program no longer clicks through the pop up of "Are you sure you want to fold, it's free to check etc" so since when I use a stack+fold hotkey, it stacks the table, leaves the popup up and you can't take any actions until you find the table/manage to click the pop up.

I understand just making a check+stack hotkey would probably solve this, but using fold+stack for both checking and actually folding was way easier.


2. Was kinda confused about what to do in the very first step of the setup wizard with the include/exclude, and just hit test a few times then continued on with the setup.

ok

first fine your custom site config file. you can find it in C:\Program Files\StackAndTile\Sites\

open up the .ini file of your custom created site, then add these lines:
that should take care of #1

those settings from that step will determine which table names get matched. in the same file, you should see these similar lines below. i've excluded "Replay" as you can see so that SaT will not detect the replayer window as a table:

finally, just for technical completeness, the reason why the built in settings no longer work is because of the "table_class" parameter in that file, which has changed with the new TruePoker update. the built in value for this is "ATL:62935A20", but i believe it has since changed, you can confirm the difference in your config that you created

It works flawlessly now. True also just pushed another update changing the table class, and I was successfully able to update. Thanks again, phenomenal support.

great to hear

if they push updates again, you dont have to go through the entire wizard, just get to the table_class part, copy it to the clipboard, then cancel the wizard, and manually paste it into your custom config that you already created

Hey man,

I should have tried this before. I just pretended in the set-up that it folded my cards even though it didn't to see what happened, and it seems to work fine when using the software.

(actually I changed to custom set up because for some reason clicking fold and stack on a merge table caused a click of some kind on a party table (it subsequently would flash)

All Merge stuff has been on Carbon play money with no mods btw.

I'm able to use SaT in a reasonable way, but I'm still not able to use it exactly as I would like (I can get around the problem by tiling Party tables)

I can't get Party to behave properly. None of the modern themes work. The lightest one doesn't pop tables to the front when action is on them, the blackish one ALWAYS stays on top, and the woody one means tables pop-up whenever the advance action box is there. Not only that when they are infront like this, no other table (including other party poker tables) will pop infront of them when they require action!

Thanks again for your continued help.

usually this step is not one that you should just skip through. when you play, are you certain that the tables are popping up when it is your turn to act?

actually the problem COULD be related to your F9 issue, if for some reason the On Screen Keyboard isnt really registering the table, then the F10 for Fold click might not be getting sent either

the default Party Modern theme has always worked best for me (light yellow one).

i'd like to do a session over teamviewer just to see if i can find anything weird about your setup and why you're running into these problems. PM me your skype name if you want to do this

just set up SNT for first time and I think it has good potential but there were some things I did not like about it (that perhaps could be adjusted in settings?). Microgaming wasn't a site that was included but I set it up fairly easily, although it doesn't seem to work well with the fold button sometimes saying its free to check. Microgaming wouldn't resize properly, it made the table smaller than my others, perhaps this was me setting it up wrong.

Anyways, during actual use when I first turned it on I started to time out at all tables because they would not pop up front. I pulled up the tables manually by clicking on their windows, but then SNT made them invisible. This was kind of frustrating, perhaps this is avoidable if you start SNT before the session.

Also, I was doing a lot of misclicking. Tables were popping up over one another over my stack slot.

Is it possible to set up the program to be "tiling" the sites for the first 9 tables, then stacking after that? I would prefer to have something like eight tables that are showing at all times, and one slot with idle tables.

This, and some way to auto sit back in to tables would be great.

Thanks!

it is possible to work around this issue by adding some settings to your Microgaming config

if you look maybe 5-6 posts above, you can see that i can another user the settings that he needs to add to his TruePoker config so that the "check or fold?" popup can be dismissed. for this to work, Microgaming must have a popup where all three of those settings can be detected. not all sites have that though

no, you didnt do anything wrong. each poker site resizes their tables differently, so its impossible to always guarantee the exact same size tables. if the proportions that Microgaming uses are a little different than your other sites, then the tables will be slighty different sizes.

this is crucial for SaT to work properly

first, there is a setting in Advanced Options for "Bring Urgent Tables To Top", i'm assuming you have that checked on, which is the default

the best way to ensure that SaT is detecting that it is your turn to act, is to use Tile Setting = Action Required, then Start SaT, put one table into the stack, and wait for it to be your turn. the table should pop into the next grid slot.

does that work for you? can you try it with Pokerstars and see if it works?

if thats not working, thats the first thing that needs to be fixed. normally, users can remove and re-Include their site and that solves it. other times, the problem is deeper.

this is probably related your problem above. however, you also want to make sure that you turn OFF each option for "pop tables to top" in the poker client themselves. see this link:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/focus-stealing


those tables in the stack will not always be idle. what SaT will do (when configured and working properly ) is that when the grid slots are full, the tables in the stack slot will continue to pop to the top so that you can keep playing on those tables. this is the default

if you would ALWAYS like to keep the grid full, you can set up a hotkey in SaT to "Tile All Tables", and then "Keep All Tables In Grid". the first will send tables to all your grid slots, and the second will lock them there so that they will not move back to the stack.

the idea of the 'Old Tables' feature was to be able to handle this issue

if SaT sees that a table hasn't required your action for 5 minutes, it will move that table out of the stack and into the grid. there you can see if you are sitting out and get back in the game. usually within 5 minutes, you have only missed one or two hands. if you find 5 minutes too long, you can always shorten it.

this will also handle the situation for when a table breaks and you are the last one sitting there. that table would get lost in the stack if you werent using the Old Tables feature

thanks for the thorough trial