[TABLE MANAGER] StackAndTile
04-20-2011
, 08:55 AM
Hey Greg, quick question 
I play on Ongame and have created a custom site for SaT. During play, i'm using three hotkeys, F,G and H (Respectively: Fold and stack, check/Call and Bet).
Check/Call and Bet/raise always work. The 'fold and stack' hotkey only works during normal play, when i have all three possibilities (fold, call/check and bet/raise) When somebody raises me all-in, i can always call with the hotkey, but i've got a problem with the fold and stack hotkey. When i press it during an all-in from villain, it doesn't fold, but only stacks my table.
Because the call button does work, i would say the buttons are in the same position as during normal play (when i've got three possibilities: Fold, call/check and bet/raise.)
NB. There is NO raise button visible during the allin from villain, so only two buttons appear. Does this probably has anything to do with it?
I've tested it with pokerstars this morning (hyper simple) and if i remember well i could fold and stack with no problems during all in situations.
Any ideas?
Edit:
The problem also appears when i set my hotkey to 'fold' instead of 'fold and stack'. Then it just does nothing. Besides the problem when only two buttons are visible, it also happens when three buttons are visible, but i only have to option to push, call or fold. In other words: when there is no possibility to make a normal raise because already 80% of my stack is in. Do you understand what i mean?
I play on Ongame and have created a custom site for SaT. During play, i'm using three hotkeys, F,G and H (Respectively: Fold and stack, check/Call and Bet).
Check/Call and Bet/raise always work. The 'fold and stack' hotkey only works during normal play, when i have all three possibilities (fold, call/check and bet/raise) When somebody raises me all-in, i can always call with the hotkey, but i've got a problem with the fold and stack hotkey. When i press it during an all-in from villain, it doesn't fold, but only stacks my table.
Because the call button does work, i would say the buttons are in the same position as during normal play (when i've got three possibilities: Fold, call/check and bet/raise.)
NB. There is NO raise button visible during the allin from villain, so only two buttons appear. Does this probably has anything to do with it?
I've tested it with pokerstars this morning (hyper simple) and if i remember well i could fold and stack with no problems during all in situations.
Any ideas?
Edit:
The problem also appears when i set my hotkey to 'fold' instead of 'fold and stack'. Then it just does nothing. Besides the problem when only two buttons are visible, it also happens when three buttons are visible, but i only have to option to push, call or fold. In other words: when there is no possibility to make a normal raise because already 80% of my stack is in. Do you understand what i mean?
Last edited by Drivo; 04-20-2011 at 09:09 AM.
04-20-2011
, 09:51 AM
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Hey Greg, quick question
I play on Ongame and have created a custom site for SaT. During play, i'm using three hotkeys, F,G and H (Respectively: Fold and stack, check/Call and Bet).
Check/Call and Bet/raise always work. The 'fold and stack' hotkey only works during normal play, when i have all three possibilities (fold, call/check and bet/raise) When somebody raises me all-in, i can always call with the hotkey, but i've got a problem with the fold and stack hotkey. When i press it during an all-in from villain, it doesn't fold, but only stacks my table.
Because the call button does work, i would say the buttons are in the same position as during normal play (when i've got three possibilities: Fold, call/check and bet/raise.)
NB. There is NO raise button visible during the allin from villain, so only two buttons appear. Does this probably has anything to do with it?
I've tested it with pokerstars this morning (hyper simple) and if i remember well i could fold and stack with no problems during all in situations.
Any ideas?
Edit:
The problem also appears when i set my hotkey to 'fold' instead of 'fold and stack'. Then it just does nothing. Besides the problem when only two buttons are visible, it also happens when three buttons are visible, but i only have to option to push, call or fold. In other words: when there is no possibility to make a normal raise because already 80% of my stack is in. Do you understand what i mean?
I play on Ongame and have created a custom site for SaT. During play, i'm using three hotkeys, F,G and H (Respectively: Fold and stack, check/Call and Bet).
Check/Call and Bet/raise always work. The 'fold and stack' hotkey only works during normal play, when i have all three possibilities (fold, call/check and bet/raise) When somebody raises me all-in, i can always call with the hotkey, but i've got a problem with the fold and stack hotkey. When i press it during an all-in from villain, it doesn't fold, but only stacks my table.
Because the call button does work, i would say the buttons are in the same position as during normal play (when i've got three possibilities: Fold, call/check and bet/raise.)
NB. There is NO raise button visible during the allin from villain, so only two buttons appear. Does this probably has anything to do with it?
I've tested it with pokerstars this morning (hyper simple) and if i remember well i could fold and stack with no problems during all in situations.
Any ideas?
Edit:
The problem also appears when i set my hotkey to 'fold' instead of 'fold and stack'. Then it just does nothing. Besides the problem when only two buttons are visible, it also happens when three buttons are visible, but i only have to option to push, call or fold. In other words: when there is no possibility to make a normal raise because already 80% of my stack is in. Do you understand what i mean?
Ok, to answer my own question. The fold, check/call and bet/raise buttons of Ongame (Goalwin in this case) are located LOWER in the window when you can only call or fold, because there is no bet slider at the bottom of the page. In other words, the buttons are located HIGHER in the window when the bet slider is present. What i did to solve this, is creating a new custom site and the following.
When asked to click on the fold button, i clicked very low on the button (because in this case, the button is slightly higher then in the case i described above). When asked for the region of the button, i selected the lower third of the button, because that was approximately the overlap part.
I did the same for the other two buttons et voilà, problem solved. Don't know if anybody else has (had) this problem, but this is definitely the only solution.
04-20-2011
, 12:08 PM
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Ok, to answer my own question. The fold, check/call and bet/raise buttons of Ongame (Goalwin in this case) are located LOWER in the window when you can only call or fold, because there is no bet slider at the bottom of the page. In other words, the buttons are located HIGHER in the window when the bet slider is present. What i did to solve this, is creating a new custom site and the following.
When asked to click on the fold button, i clicked very low on the button (because in this case, the button is slightly higher then in the case i described above). When asked for the region of the button, i selected the lower third of the button, because that was approximately the overlap part.
I did the same for the other two buttons et voilà, problem solved. Don't know if anybody else has (had) this problem, but this is definitely the only solution.
When asked to click on the fold button, i clicked very low on the button (because in this case, the button is slightly higher then in the case i described above). When asked for the region of the button, i selected the lower third of the button, because that was approximately the overlap part.
I did the same for the other two buttons et voilà, problem solved. Don't know if anybody else has (had) this problem, but this is definitely the only solution.
your assumptions are correct. if the buttons move depending on different actions, then SaT doesn't know where to click. if the Fold button isnt visible certain times, then that will create problems with the hotkey and also for SaT determine if a table has action required. so keep an eye out for that case tooif you care to post your OnGame config, i'll host it on the site for others to use. i'm sure it will be very helpful
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Hehe yep, pretty much describes all of my projects started over a 10 year span, bar 2 or 3.
The last 20% will take 80% of total time, and it's all crappy mundane work, not the fun initial dev stuff. If you get a solid working demo in 1 week expect 2 months to ship it.
Most don't have that real desire to give it the big push.
The last 20% will take 80% of total time, and it's all crappy mundane work, not the fun initial dev stuff. If you get a solid working demo in 1 week expect 2 months to ship it.
Most don't have that real desire to give it the big push.
04-20-2011
, 02:55 PM
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Bam. Solved. Just selected the compete region of BOTH fold, check/call and bet/raise buttons, so they are recognized when action is required. The clicks were positioned near the center-bottom of the buttons when the slider is present, in order to be able to click somewhere at the top of the button when the slider isn't present.
The file is uploaded with yousendit, so it is only available for some days. If you want to host it on your site, that's fine by me of course.
Here's the file
I wonder if it is usefull, because others use different table sizes. Maybe i'm wrong.
The file is uploaded with yousendit, so it is only available for some days. If you want to host it on your site, that's fine by me of course.
Here's the file
I wonder if it is usefull, because others use different table sizes. Maybe i'm wrong.
04-20-2011
, 03:56 PM
there is something you can try though, but it might mess up your other sites. in your SaT config (File -> Current config) you can add this line under [settings]:
Code:
[settings] ... color_variation=128
04-21-2011
, 04:37 AM
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haha wow. what a pain in the ass. the button regions are not for action, they are for detecting mouse clicks within the region. the specific fold button click determines if the table needs action. so you are correct to try to click near the bottom where the click would emcompass both fold button locations.
there is something you can try though, but it might mess up your other sites. in your SaT config (File -> Current config) you can add this line under [settings]:
i dont know exactly what number to tell you. this setting determines the range of colors to determine if the fold button color matches. it looks like the fold button color in your image is blue, and the background is black. the default is 36, but you can try higher and higher numbers and see if it matches. the problem is, if you go too high, and it matches the black background as well, then it will think all tables need action
there is something you can try though, but it might mess up your other sites. in your SaT config (File -> Current config) you can add this line under [settings]:
Code:
[settings] ... color_variation=128
Yay Have to do some testing this afternoon, but i'm quite sure it will do it's job now. To be sure i've added some color variation. When i alter the ini file for color variation, do i have to re-add the site? Or does it update at a SaT restart?
Thank you for your extensive reply.
04-21-2011
, 07:39 AM
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Greg, i tried to determine where the colors match the most (between high and low button) and it seems i got it. At the right and left side there is a shadow which goes from up to down. i clicked on the bottom right part of all three buttons and it looks like it detects 'both' the tables now Yay
Have to do some testing this afternoon, but i'm quite sure it will do it's job now. To be sure i've added some color variation. When i alter the ini file for color variation, do i have to re-add the site? Or does it update at a SaT restart?
Thank you for your extensive reply.
Yay Have to do some testing this afternoon, but i'm quite sure it will do it's job now. To be sure i've added some color variation. When i alter the ini file for color variation, do i have to re-add the site? Or does it update at a SaT restart?
Thank you for your extensive reply.
The file is located HERE , fine if you host it.
Have a nice day
04-21-2011
, 03:04 PM
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yes the ini is loaded upon start. no need to reinclude sites. however, i noticed that you put the color_variation inside the goalwin3.ini. i was trying to tell you that that setting should go inside the actual SaT config.ini, otherwise it wont have any effect. but if its working, dont mess with it. next version ill see if i can implement it so that the color_variation will be read from the custom site config where you have it anyway.
04-21-2011
, 04:05 PM
04-21-2011
, 05:00 PM