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06-13-2013 , 02:15 AM
Moved over to a new computer, any reason why when I try to install I get this message? Have tried ~15 times, all the different starting versions available and it's just not working

http://gyazo.com/5483bc11ec5e6413d77a1c381bd30fc8
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06-13-2013 , 07:56 AM
Hi Jason!

Any information regarding the development?

Jorgen.
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06-23-2013 , 09:50 AM
bump!
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06-26-2013 , 12:12 AM
Jason?

Sent from my GT-I9300 using 2+2 Forums
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06-26-2013 , 09:43 AM
**** copyin' styles, ****** be tracin'
Whether it's me, the movie, or Jadakiss, ****** just can't **** with Jason

merge HH's still not copying properly. It says "paste hh" when i try pasting it, the other programs that use clipboard, it works perfect
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06-30-2013 , 05:28 AM
Jason, you are still alive, are you? If not, I probably will not get any answers...
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07-04-2013 , 06:24 AM
Y U NO UPDATE JESUS
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07-06-2013 , 05:57 PM
Guys,

Sorry for the lack of updates in this thread. Sometimes life happens and internet forums take a back seat.


Sly Caveat,

The default opponent ranges can be susceptible to some numerical instability with the approximation of the equilibrium strategies. In general, I dont think any of results are especially out of line, but I can understand that it looks a bit disconcerting... I'll try to see if I can make things more stable in a future release.


Fringobing,

A scam? Seriously? I dont reply to an internet forum thread for 4 weeks and your response it to publish the names of my friends/family/acquaintances in some kind of attempt to embarrass or threaten me? WTF, man. And please, pray tell, what is your sit'n'go software emergency that is so important that has required such a response from you? You have *not* sent an e-mail to support@sngsolver.com... maybe you could have tried that before shouting "fire" in this public thread. I am going to issue a refund for your SnG Solver license as soon as I finish this post and I intend to have nothing more to do with you after that.


poporella,

You too... scam? You've figured out how to game my trial period, apparently are a regular user of my software and havent paid me a penny, but I'm the scammer?

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 07-07-2013 at 04:24 AM. Reason: Removed reply to deleted post.
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07-07-2013 , 04:26 AM
Hey,

i was already ask to share how to reset the trialperiod.
I am not gonna do that .

"Hi,
i cant do that. If the program evolves i gonna buy it happily, but not at this stage of the software.

ATM i only use it like once a month because its way easier to use sngwizz instead. And if you used SNGsolver intensively during the trialperiod, you have a good grasp how future equity will influence the wizz results."


That being said, if sngsolver makes it more handy to use, like sngwizz, more payouts, able to load multiple HH at once... like the developer promised soo often - I am happy to buy a license, but not when i only use it like once a month at this stage of the software..

I am not paying $80 just for promises!
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07-07-2013 , 02:57 PM
poporella,

TBH, I'm not sure I really understand what it is you're trying to tell me. I dont know who you're quoting in that post... it certainly isnt anything I've ever said.

I also dont know who is asking you to pay $80 for promises, because its not me either.

SnG Solver is working product that I have now invested probably thousands of hours of my time developing and supporting. Anyone is free to download and try it for themselves to see if it is worth $99 to continue using it. If you think its too expensive, then I'm sorry, but SnG Solver is not for you then.
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07-09-2013 , 01:23 PM
This program is obviously not table ninja and it will work still after a hundred years if Jason doesn't put one more hour in it. As an amateur developer I totally understand Jasons arguments and they are all valid, this is a working product.

Only thing that made people mad is promising updates for about half year and nothing changed. They could switch to another program and get familiar with it but with promising big updates people tend to wait and with time frustration rises and you get this kind of responses.
I made for myself a side script for SngSolver to filter interesting hands etc. and with this I find SngSolver the best and the fastest to analyze sessions. User interface is by far the best out there for some advanced analyzing.

If it became unprofitable to develop SngSolver further I would be ready for a one time addon price for a big update or something similar (but keep lifetime licence cause this is only thing that seperates you from others) just to keep you motivated. I know that nobody will develop these kind of programs for free.
For me it's really a shame for this kind of product to stand still for so long cause it had a potential to become and stay the best icm program out there.

As for updates,
with raise call, 3bet spots (all not necessary PSM) and flexible ranges I could definitely treat SngSolver as a finished product.
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07-09-2013 , 05:34 PM
Refund received five minutes ago.
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07-31-2013 , 12:07 AM
i still cant paste a merge HH - it says "paste hh"
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08-15-2013 , 05:42 PM
TBH, it is pretty shady to continue to sell this software while making it seem like updates are coming when at this point it is clear that none are. I dont care if you stop supporting the program, but you absolutely need to say so and you absolutely need to post something on your website.

This software project didnt work out how you hoped, and that sucks, but stop being a dick and just be upfront about no more updates. I dont even care about a refund for my own licenses, but come on, you cant keep selling this without telling new customers they arent getting updates.
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08-17-2013 , 01:15 PM
Picasso,

Well, I'm not sure what to tell you... I certainly am working on the next update. Doing quite a lot of work, in fact. I'm sorry that its taking as long as it is, but thats simply the reality of the situation.

The things that I'm working on don't have easy solutions and I am far off the beaten path for in terms of available prior art... There is no one else's research to follow and there are no one else's tools to leverage. Million game simulations take time... writing new simulators takes time... building large datasets takes time... writing the tools to build data takes time... and so on.

I have tried not to inflate you guys expectations while at the same time let you know what I've been working on. But maybe I havent found a good balance there. So let me be perfectly clear right now: 1) I *am* working on new features for SnG Solver, and 2) I make no promises about when/if they will actually be released.

Anyone who is thinking of buying SnG Solver should make that choice based on the product that it is, right now.
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08-19-2013 , 07:25 PM
lol at people giving jason ****, its great software with great support.

if you cant afford 99$ for some of the best poker software out there you have bigger problems

now **** off
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08-20-2013 , 03:04 AM
Ya i bought it now, but it cant be that hard to implement a complete SNG HH like in wizz. I mean you can, but you only can select one hand, and then the rest of the hands you imported are still gone, and you still have to reimport every single hand...

i mean just make it a little bit more handy to use for a whole push fold gameanalysis. Its fancy enough, and doesnt need more of this atm

Last edited by poporella; 08-20-2013 at 03:11 AM.
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11-12-2013 , 08:50 PM
Does this not work with any skins from the Revolution Network? I got the trail version but none of my hand histories are being read because they are all from Revo
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11-13-2013 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lotuselise88
Does this not work with any skins from the Revolution Network? I got the trail version but none of my hand histories are being read because they are all from Revo
If you dont mind sending a few HHs to support@sngsolver.com, I'll be able to get them to work. Being in the USA, I dont have easy access to all the different networks.
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11-17-2013 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sng_jason
If you dont mind sending a few HHs to support@sngsolver.com, I'll be able to get them to work. Being in the USA, I dont have easy access to all the different networks.
Sent
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11-20-2013 , 05:24 AM
hey man, interesting program, thinking of buying it.
What I would like to see is, a much larger graphic of the ranges, with numbers.
Like when you calculate in ICMizer, you can see what the numbers are. from +1.10 to +.04.
It'd be nice, to see the numbers of all different hands. You can of course set hero's hand to see the numbers on that individual hand, but I'd like to look at all hand outputs at once.

Think this will ever happen?
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11-20-2013 , 12:53 PM
things are shaded though right??? If it is an uber light shade of green just know that it is marginally EV. But i understand where u r coming from.

I want to send you some Merge HH's Jason. Solver doesnt support it when pasting a HH, where can i send HH's??
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12-04-2013 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
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Stacks:
BTN (Hero) : 1000
SB: 600
BB: 1200

Predictive Simulation: 3 (complete)

This gives me a shoving range of 100%. Now look at the results if I change the amount of my stack:

1000: 100%
1001: 66%
1002: 71%
1003: 75%
1004: 67%
1040: 41%
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Originally Posted by sng_jason
The default opponent ranges can be susceptible to some numerical instability with the approximation of the equilibrium strategies. In general, I dont think any of results are especially out of line, but I can understand that it looks a bit disconcerting... I'll try to see if I can make things more stable in a future release.
You really don't think those results are out of line? I was considering trying SNG Solver but with obviously flawed results like above it seems that trying it would do more harm than good.
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01-20-2014 , 08:03 PM
this is messed up and hasn't even been addressed. I was just looking at another spot, there seems to be an error in this calculation as well. I ran the same scenario in Wiz, ICMizer, and Solver. where wiz is suggesting to call with 17.3%, Mizer at 21%, and then solver at 2.3%. this cant be right eh? 6 max DON bubble spot

Jason, where are u?

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01-21-2014 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
... there seems to be an error in this calculation as well. I ran the same scenario in Wiz, ICMizer, and Solver. where wiz is suggesting to call with 17.3%, Mizer at 21%, and then solver at 2.3%....
Dont forget that you're comparing the results of a PSM3 calculation against two other programs that only do naive ICM. I would be almost certainly expect Solver to give a different answer in a spot like this. There's no mistake. The math is the math.


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(I seem to have missed getting notified of those last few posts in this thread... I'll reply to those shortly)
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