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03-19-2012 , 08:56 AM
how do you look at how long a session/s were (tournaments)?

was simple to do in pt3 but I can't find it anywhere.

Last edited by Donkson; 03-19-2012 at 09:24 AM.
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03-19-2012 , 09:21 AM
Hello! I was trying to configure the PT4 HUD and I found something different from PT3. The suffix appears after the Opportunites(if True). In PT3 it was shown after the stat. I'm trying to put % after the stat but it puts it after the Oppotunities. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks!
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03-19-2012 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rothstein
How to design stats 3Bet vs EP Open, 3Bet vs MP open, 3Bet BB vs SB steal? It seems there are only stats with 2bet...
The difference with a 3Bet vs Open and a 3Bet vs 2Bet is only when the initial raiser is raising over limpers. At 6max an EP 2Bet is identical to an EP Open in all cases because EP is the first to act. In MP at 6max, the only difference is when EP limps and MP raises. These cases seemed sufficiently rare as to not warrant their own stats.

For 3Bet BB vs SB Steal you want the stat "BB vs SB Open - 3Bet".


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Originally Posted by ComplexP
When pt4 imports the pt3 hands, does it import all the notes as well? If not, is there some way to do that? Do I have to backup/restore the pt3 database in pt4, if so would I lose any functionality in pt4

Thanks
As a result of differing database schemas, you can't use the PT3 backup function to restore into PT4. If you use the automated conversion tool, though, your notes from PT3 will be converted to PT4.

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Originally Posted by Donkson
how do you look at how long a session/s were (tournaments)?

was simple to do in pt3 but I can't find it anywhere.
I'm not seeing that either; I'll make a note to get something like that added in - thanks!

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Originally Posted by TuckinFypo
Hello! I was trying to configure the PT4 HUD and I found something different from PT3. The suffix appears after the Opportunites(if True). In PT3 it was shown after the stat. I'm trying to put % after the stat but it puts it after the Oppotunities. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks!
It doesn't sound like it, I'll look into this for you and make sure we fix any inaccurate behavior.
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03-19-2012 , 11:35 AM
i think the most important to add, if you shut down PT4 it remembers you last things you used: side filters like this month it takes too long time it loads all the imported hands etc
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03-19-2012 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by stusmokes
i think the most important to add, if you shut down PT4 it remembers you last things you used: side filters like this month it takes too long time it loads all the imported hands etc
This is expected in an upcoming release. Keep in mind that PokerTracker 4 is still in development, we witheld this feature intentionally because we need to wait until our report speeds are working flawlessly before we add filter "memory", we consider filter memory between restarts to be icing on the cake.

- TT
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03-19-2012 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkson
how do you look at how long a session/s were (tournaments)?

was simple to do in pt3 but I can't find it anywhere.
As Kradda pointed out this stat is missing from our default reports, we will work to address this ASAP. In the meantime the stat you need to determine the length of the session already exists, you can customize the report to show the tournament length yourself.

Right-click in the Tournament Overview - By Tournament report, and select Configure Report. In the Search field type in Length, double click this stat to place it in the report. Adjust the position of the stat in the report by using the arrows, then click OK.

All set!



- TT
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03-19-2012 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
To delete a line in the HUD profile editor use the - button on the right hand side of the row and then click Delete Line. There is no known bugs, how did you attempt to delete the line?
Exactly that way, a few times too. It's not working at least for me, don't know about others

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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
An opponents range cannot be calculated by a stat, I know many people have claimed to create a stat which displays range but its impossible (except for your own range). A tracker can only determine actual holdings, not range (and even then we don't always know actual holdings if the poker site does not include it in the hand history).

[I]4Bet + Ratio is calculated as PFR * 4+Bet % When Raising / 100. This statistic is intended to show what percentage of all hands a player is willing to 4+Bet with given that he raised. For example, a player with a PFR of 20 and a 4Bet of 5 raises 20% of hands, and 4 Bets 5% of those; 20 * 5 / 100 = 1. Thus this player has been shown to 4+Bet 1% of his hands.
That's basically the same thing as 4bet range from HM1/HM2 right? At least it looks exactly like it from your definition

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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
To find the definition of any stat, select Statistics from the Configure menu. You can use the very handy search box to get a listing of all the available stats as shown below, the definition is found on the right. This feature is also used to create your own custom stats if you want to get experimental, or you can download a stat from our warehouse (available soon).

thank you that's going to be really useful to find out what each stats exactly mean, does that mean i would be able to create my own stats "Bet vs missed CBet total IP" & "Bet vs missed CBet total OOP" using that feature? The stats is there for each street but it wont allow me to change IP/OOP on the total one :P



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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
For a good example of explicit positions take a look at the default HUD profile's Tools popup. In PokerTracker exact position is a property assigned to a stat, we don't use separate stats to accomplish this goal. We also have the In/Out of position property available for all post-flop stats. As you know actual position is not as important post-flop, its more important to know if you are in or out of position, that is why we added this very valuable stat property in PT4.
Thanks, i'll look at this right when i'm done with converting my HM2 database.

One of my biggest problems with PT3 was how complicated it was to create a custom HUD and popups coming from HM1 & HM2, but all of this is fixed now, took me only a few minutes to fully understand how it works and there's a huge thing that HM2 doesn't have that you guys have, we can use color ranges in our popups, thats a huge plus for me.
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03-19-2012 , 01:59 PM
Got this while playing about 14 SNGs, HUD and import were still working fine.



close and reopening solved the problem.

Last edited by ISmellToast; 03-19-2012 at 02:22 PM.
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03-19-2012 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayAAonly
Exactly that way, a few times too. It's not working at least for me, don't know about others
Could you please restart PT4, open and attempt to delete the line, then send us the PokerTracker4.log file via our support system? You can find the file by clicking File --> Open User Data Folder - it's the text file called PokerTracker 4 that is there.

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Originally Posted by iPlayAAonly
That's basically the same thing as 4bet range from HM1/HM2 right? At least it looks exactly like it from your definition
Yes, it is, but it doesn't really define a "range" (a collection of specific hole cards) that a player plays, hence we decided to give it a more appropriate name.


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Originally Posted by iPlayAAonly
thank you that's going to be really useful to find out what each stats exactly mean, does that mean i would be able to create my own stats "Bet vs missed CBet total IP" & "Bet vs missed CBet total OOP" using that feature? The stats is there for each street but it wont allow me to change IP/OOP on the total one :P
You could create those using custom statistics, but I'll make a note to see what we can do about allowing an In/Out of position for those Total stats.


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Originally Posted by iPlayAAonly
One of my biggest problems with PT3 was how complicated it was to create a custom HUD and popups coming from HM1 & HM2, but all of this is fixed now, took me only a few minutes to fully understand how it works and there's a huge thing that HM2 doesn't have that you guys have, we can use color ranges in our popups, thats a huge plus for me.
We're glad to hear you're happy with our improvements!

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Originally Posted by ISmellToast
Got this while playing about 14 SNGs, HUD and import were still working fine.



close and reopening solved the problem.
Unfortunately that error appears to be cut off. If it happens again, please attach the PokerTracker4.log file to a support ticket on our website and we'll look into what is going on here. The log file always has the full error and unfortunately since the errors are so long, the screenshots often do not.
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03-19-2012 , 04:59 PM
Been using PT4 for 3 days now and it really looks great!

Have a couple of questions/suggestions:

1. It would be nice if the hud-profile-editor would 'remember' the sizes and positions of the various windows and popups. I have a big monitor so I always resize the 'choose stat' popup because scrolling is so...well...tilting.

2. Is there no way to assign popups from one profile within another profile? I would like to use my imported profile but assign some of the pt4 popups to it.

3. Some icons could use a tooltip because sometimes one doesn't want to just click it.

4. When importing from a directory, are subdirectories included? If not: is there an option to enable this (tried it an didn't see any option ala 'include subdirectories')?

Last edited by elcid; 03-19-2012 at 05:29 PM.
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03-19-2012 , 05:02 PM
sorry i didnt read the thread,

how can i enable your version of autorate?
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03-19-2012 , 05:27 PM
Bug: The "sessions won" stat in the results tab does not seem to work with filters, it shows the total sessions regardless. When I filter the hands for today I get 1 "sessions" and 4 (400%) "sessions won"
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03-19-2012 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by elcid
  1. It would be nice if the hud-profile-editor would 'remember' the sizes and positions of the various windows and popups. I have a big monitor so I always resize the 'choose stat' popup because scrolling is so...well...tilting.
  2. Is there no way to assign popups from one profile within another profile? I would like to use my imported profile but assign some of the pt4 popups to it.
  3. Some icons could use a tooltip because sometimes one doesn't want to just click it.
  4. When importing from a directory, are subdirectories included? If not: is there an option to enable this (tried it an didn't see any option ala 'include subdirectories')?
  1. This is a low priority issue, we are going to revisit tiny things like this after PT4 is released, feel free to ask us again then. Thanks for your understanding in the meantime.
  2. Export the Popup to your desktop, then import the popup into the new HU profile.
  3. Can you give us some examples of the icons that need tooltips? We are the tool tip kings, its rare that we forget to include one ;-)
  4. Yes, subdirectories are included!


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Originally Posted by fiftyonefifty
sorry i didnt read the thread,

how can i enable your version of autorate?
Its a great thread, so much info here, you should at least read back a few pages!

Autorate has been removed from PokerTracker 4, in its place we will be adding a new feature called AutoTag. Its much more powerful and flexible, plus we find that more experienced players are likely to use AutoTagging, while being even easier than before for inexperienced players who used to use AutoRate. Its a best of both worlds scenario, if we do a good job them the majority of all players who use PT4 will be using AutoTag - hang on, more coming soon!

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Originally Posted by MrPaddington
Bug: The "sessions won" stat in the results tab does not seem to work with filters, it shows the total sessions regardless. When I filter the hands for today I get 1 "sessions" and 4 (400%) "sessions won"
We cannot reproduce this issue over here, we tried on three desktops and in each scenario it is working perfectly for us.
  1. Are you discussing the area where the yellow or the red arrows are below? Both should match, if they do not then please let us know ASAP.
  2. If it is the red arrows are at fault, then start by right clicking the report, select Configure Report, the click Restore to Default and click OK.
  3. If that doesn't work, then please restart PokerTracker 4, set the filter to reproduce the issue, then take a screen capture. From the file menu click Open User Data Folder, inside this folder you will find two log files. Please zip up these two log files along with the screen capture and send them to us.

The logs may help us debug your issue, hopefully we can find the source of the problem fast. Thanks for your help!

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03-19-2012 , 06:20 PM
4.01.12 BETA Release Notes

PokerTracker 4.01.12 Public BETA

Thank you for participating in this PokerTracker 4 Public Beta. We require the feedback of all beta testers to assure that the issues listed below are working properly. Please help us by posting your input to PokerTracker 4 Community Beta Forums.

Key Updates Summary:
  • PokerStars Zoom cash table support improved
Changed:
  • HUD: Added preferred seating support for PokerStars Zoom cash tables
  • HUD: Added new PokerStars Zoom cash games support (Limit Holdem and Limit Omaha 8/b)
  • Setup Assistant: Added a Currency Setup completion message
Fixed
  • HUD: Fix for PokerStars Zoom cash game HUD to support Windows Vista
  • HUD: Fix for PokerStars Zoom cash game HUD to support non-English Windows XP users
Special Notes
  • Only the Windows version of the Zoom HUD is supported at this time
  • Hand histories created by PokerStars Zoom tables do not differentiate between play money and real money play at this time. As a precaution PokerTracker recommends that you create a dedicated database exclusively for Zoom play money hands to avoid intermingling your real money and play money hands accidentally.
  • If your HUD continues to have issues with “fuzzy” fonts or colors, please follow the instructions in the guide to adjust clear type text on Windows operating systems.
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03-19-2012 , 06:53 PM
Is there pt4 version of stats "skip flop CB and c/f oop" ?
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03-19-2012 , 08:44 PM
Im increasing the font size for my HUD stats but it doesnt seem to adjust on the tables, any reason for that ? I haven't touch any other settings as far as I know.
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03-19-2012 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rothstein
Is there pt4 version of stats "skip flop CB and c/f oop" ?

"skip" flop cbet is the inverse of CBet Flop, so if the player CBets 75% of the time then they don't CBet 25% of the time.

Check Fold OOP on the flop is handed in the HUD using the Fold to F range of stats, you can see all of these stats by clicking Configure, selecting Statistics, then typing "Fold to F" in the search box as shown below.



Choose the best option for your HUD, for a generic check/fold choose Fold to Flop CBet. Add this stat to your HUD, while the stat is selected change the Has Position property to Out of Position on Flop. The Has Position property is only available for post-flop stats.



- TT
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03-19-2012 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xss
Im increasing the font size for my HUD stats but it doesnt seem to adjust on the tables, any reason for that ? I haven't touch any other settings as far as I know.

What poker room are you playing at? Please scale the size of the table, does the fonts increase in size this way?

- TT
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03-19-2012 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
What poker room are you playing at? Please scale the size of the table, does the fonts increase in size this way?

- TT
Pokerstars, yes it does.
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03-19-2012 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PlsFold
A bet% if checked to by initial aggressor would be awesome as an inducable to check stat.
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
The stat you requested is already in PT4
If so, I am not able to find it. I've tested the probe bet stat but it doesn't fit the criteria I am looking for. Float bet stat doesn't match either.

Is it possible to exclude 2 or 3 handed play so only 4-6 player stats are shown in the HUD even if play is only 2 or 3 handed? In a sit and go I would find that useful. Applying that to a selected profile would be great as well.

Thank you guys for making state of the art software and awesome support.
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03-19-2012 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PlsFold
Also, A bet% if checked to by initial aggressor would be awesome as an inducable to check stat.
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Originally Posted by PlsFold
If so, I am not able to find it. I've tested the probe bet stat but it doesn't fit the criteria I am looking for. Float bet stat doesn't match either.
You are actually describing the Float stat.
Float Flop %: Percentage of the time that a player bets in position on the flop after the preflop aggressor fails to continuation bet.

Formula: Number of Times Player Float on the Flop / Number of Times Player Could Float on the Flop


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Originally Posted by PlsFold
Is it possible to exclude 2 or 3 handed play so only 4-6 player stats are shown in the HUD even if play is only 2 or 3 handed? In a sit and go I would find that useful. Applying that to a selected profile would be great as well.

Thank you guys for making state of the art software and awesome support.
I an not an expert of HUD filtering, perhaps one of the other guys can answer for you as well, but I think what you are requesting is not possible. Thanx for the kind words!

- TT
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03-19-2012 , 11:15 PM
lol how was there not a post report submitted to get a new thread title!
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03-20-2012 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
lol how was there not a post report submitted to get a new thread title!
That was supposed to happen today, but we got a bit busy _dave_! We didnt want to change the title over the weekend, we wanted to wait until all of our staff were available to handel the expected rush to download. I tried to contact Bobo on Friday, but he was MIA. Lets address it tomorrow for sure, thnx for asking!

- TT
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03-20-2012 , 12:30 AM
oops I changed it already (now changed back!)
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03-20-2012 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
"skip" flop cbet is the inverse of CBet Flop, so if the player CBets 75% of the time then they don't CBet 25% of the time.

Check Fold OOP on the flop is handed in the HUD using the Fold to F range of stats, you can see all of these stats by clicking Configure, selecting Statistics, then typing "Fold to F" in the search box as shown below.



Choose the best option for your HUD, for a generic check/fold choose Fold to Flop CBet. Add this stat to your HUD, while the stat is selected change the Has Position property to Out of Position on Flop. The Has Position property is only available for post-flop stats.



- TT
thanks a lot
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