And I think you should stop fishing for compliments.

Merry XMas @all.

Aww too bad I missed the beta keys

Could I get some cliffs on what note tracker does?

Ha ha ha, Merry Christmas to you too!

For what it's worth, if you read through the past posts there was a lot of criticism about our choice to delay the release of the beta. It was hard to communicate at the time why it was the best thing for users in the long run, but now that the beta is in the hands of some players I think it is easier to understand our reasons in hindsight. Luckily for us the compliments have been coming fast and strong regardless of fishing;-)

More beta keys soon- hang tight! In the new year, our our team goes back to work, we will be releasing more beta keys.


NoteTracker is an automated notes tool. This differs from stats which track opportunities of an action, NoteTracker instead tracks the hole cards, count of an action (without the opportunity), or the board cards when a action took place. Note definitions are fairly easy to create using the PT4 filter system. Some examples of note rules you can create:

* range of hands used to 4 bet (must see a showdown and have access to the hole cards to track your opponent's range)

* count of times an opponent shoved with just a non-nut flush draw with an SPR greater than 3 (must see a showdown and have access to the hole cards to known your opponent had just a flush draw)

* board cards when an opponent over bets the river

Does this answer your question? If not, let me know if u need more examples.

- TT

Any hope for those who do not have PT3 currently?
I'm trying to convince myself that PT is the way, but have been having a lot of problems with PT3beta - auto import doesn't pick up new tables once join them, startup time is horrible ( twice of HEM2), HUD is tricky to get to work properly. i would be helpful to me to see how PT4 works before i put nay money into PT's product line.

Thanks TT, yeah figured it'd be something like notecaddy

We'll be opening the PT4 beta to the public (no PT3 code required) sometime in January.

In the mean time, have you contacted our support team to resolve the problems that you are experiencing with PT3? What you describe should not be happening and I suspect that it's more than likely a configuration issue which we should be able to quickly help you resolve.

Best regards,

Derek

Jan public beta - that would be nice indeed.

I agree with you Derek. I just filed the ticket with support last night. I''ll report back once it's resolved.

I would rather wait for a better product than get a ****tier product soon. i.e. HEM 2

I made the switch from HEM back to PT3 before I heard about PT4 so excited about this now.

Is there any info on if this will be able to track your rebuys in mtts and mttsngs? also is there a rough release date? new to this thread havent been following info. thanks

Yes, rebuys can be tracked. We have no rough release date at this time - we are ready when we are done developing, unfortunately thats the best timeline we can give. I sugest you read back at least a few pages in this thread to get caught up - lots of good info available!

Will it still use as much CPU as PT3?

I have 3gb of ram and a big enough harddrive, yet PT3 heats my laptop to up to 60c.

yet it uses so much less cpu & ram than HEM
and still runs so much quicker

What has got to do with anything?

I'm specifically talking about PT3 and my machine. Perhaps I need a better machine. I've been thinking of getting a new desktop anyway, specifically for poker and PT4, which I prefer to HEM.

i was just expressing my enthousiasm towards pokertracker. I recently switched from HEM.

may i ask "why?" It's been a few very frustrating days for me trying to get simple stuff working. If not for the guys from support, who just came back from holidays and started to reply on my (most likely) stupid questions i would have been in HEM with my both feet now firmly.
For what it's worth, HEM2 starts up in about 50% of the PT3beta's time. startup time of Pt3 beta is about 1/2 of PT3 ( main release 3.10).
I do like the PT# button on the table it has the right functionality - "mark hands for review" . I do think it's the right thing in the right place. I do not like the overall layout of the application. I do like that the there is a log of the import' right in front of me. That was my big initial "like" that made me look into PT3 in more details. I do not like that PT3 can't figure out where my Hero sits. This is driving my nuts....
I really don't like all the fancy-shamanic interface of HEM2. I do like that HEM2's configuration is more visual. for example HUD's options - the changes are immediately visible in a small preview window.
...

I recently switched from HEM and i am very happy.

I dont know your machine caracteristics, but HEM2 takes ages to load and on mine, whereas pt3 last build (beta) takes seconds. (and its a craaaappy laptop).

When i click buttons on PT3 interface, things are immediate, screen does not freeze for seconds each time i click somewhere (hem does that on my machines).

I like the PT visual style a lot more. I hate the "flash" style HEM adopted. PTs overall gui is imo simply far more analytical and intuitive.

Support is very effeicient . They responded quickly and accurately to every question i had. I had a few problems with their competitor's support, where many of my questions simply never have been taken in consideration at all.

The ability to customize everything is great. You can acess to the soft at a deeper level than in hem, and build any stat (and graph it or use it in any report)

HUD is more customizable.( lines, prefixes, suffixes, display options like times/opportunities ...)

and thats only pt3
pt4 has all this plus a lot more it seems.

you can specify you seating preferences in import panel....

thank you for sharing.
i have 2 machines age old Delld600 ( 2cpu with 2GB) and a new 2GB 2CPU PC with Sata drives etc. in both cases my experience is directly opposite to described by yours. I should say that HEM2 is not "jumping" into memory- it also takes some time to load - ~ 30 seconds or so.

Most of the issues you are discussing below are in fact fairly simple, once you get used to the PokerTracker workflow you will look back at this time and chuckle over how you didn't understand at first.

Most people find the opposite to be true by a large margin. Regardless, startup time for the app is of litte concern - what matters most for poker players is the in-game performance, and this is an area where PokerTracker excels.

PokerTracker has no way to determine where the hero is seated when you have a prefered seat defined in the poker client unless you set your import preferences to match the correct seat. This is also an issue with all of PokerTracker's competitors, including HEM. If we cannot detect where there hero is seated, then it can in fact be quite chaotic - hence why we include the preferred seating preferences.

Please take a look at the HUD preview video for PokerTracker 4 to see how we address HUD design using a drag and drop interface within instant visual feedback - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dir1...g&feature=plcp

You should be aware that we are no longer developing new features for PokerTracker 3, our entire new feature development focus is on PokerTracker 4 which is currently in private beta. Since this is a PokerTracker 4 thread, we would advise you to switch to the PokerTracker 3 thread to discuss that application or visit our forums to get direct support when needed. The pokerTracker 3 thread is found at http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...l#post30615152

Good luck!

- TT

Hello,

1. Can somebody tell me how much computer resources (ram, etc.) needed for PT4?
"Minimal requirement" and "Recommended specification"


2. I'll be playing Omaha in near future and want to know what are new features for PT4 Omaha.

Is the software/forum down..cant open any of it.

If you're not willing to find out Hero's seat from the game window, how about adding a "rotate hud" or "btw hero sits here now" option per table? I sometimes wish to switch seat in some table due to tables overlapping. Or there's a site where I can't set a preferred seat (so the option is not also in PT -at least PT3) but I can use "sit here" in the table. Or could if it didn't mess up the HUD.

Do you know what temps PT runs on your machines?

I'm getting 60C+ with a 3gb laptop, big hard drive.

Its very sluggish.

i haven't checked the laptop temps, to be honest. But PC's CPU usage is normal ~30% ( i know you asked about temp and i give you CPU consumption. sorry ). If you run WIN - look at the "task manageR" - the more the load on cpu/hd the more temp you will get.

this sounds like a real good idea.