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12-06-2011 , 05:21 PM
Will pokertracker 4 work for ongame?
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12-06-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by myNameIsInga
Will pokertracker 4 work for ongame?
Yes, we will continue to support all existing poker clients that we support in PT3. You will also be able to import legacy clients like FullTilt and Bodog 3.x (PokerTracker does not support the new Bodog 4.x client - this is a new platform that differs greatly from the 3.x client). I cannot confirm at this time if OnGame will be included in the initial beta, or if it will be added during the beta stage... bur we will know the answer to this soon.

- TT
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12-07-2011 , 05:45 PM
Hi,

I am a long time user of Pokertracker and think it's a fantastic program. My question is this - I have just now moved up limits to 50nl. However, a license upgrade is needed in order to use PT3.

Is it worth me upgrading now when PT4 is coming out soon? Or do I get PT4 for free if I upgrade now?

Thanks!
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12-07-2011 , 06:49 PM
Dont know if anything like this is already implemented, but here it is.
I would like to see an option to add "border" to player squares at the tables.This is one of the main reason I have to use the on-site notes system, because it allows to add colored borders for notes, while PT3 only gives us an icon.

A way to implement this would be to have it as a "stat" that we would add in a seperate panel. Then let us specify x y for width and height so it will fit specific poker client (or better just let us pick site with the x,y already entered). Add z for border thickness and give us an option to pick colors on the fly like its done in the poker clients (stars or ftp have this part figured out pretty good).

This would probably be fairly simple thing to do, all you have to do is figure out best way to execute it.

While you are at it, possible to see player icon/border color in the lobby? If no, is it available in TableTracker? If yes to that, will there be a free version of tabletracker in PT4?
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12-07-2011 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by happyeaster
Hi,

I am a long time user of Pokertracker and think it's a fantastic program. My question is this - I have just now moved up limits to 50nl. However, a license upgrade is needed in order to use PT3.

Is it worth me upgrading now when PT4 is coming out soon? Or do I get PT4 for free if I upgrade now?

Thanks!
If you upgrade now when PT4 is released you'll only need to pay the upgrade price for the Micro Stakes version and you'll get the additional Pro upgrade for PT4 for free.


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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
Dont know if anything like this is already implemented, but here it is.
I would like to see an option to add "border" to player squares at the tables.This is one of the main reason I have to use the on-site notes system, because it allows to add colored borders for notes, while PT3 only gives us an icon.

A way to implement this would be to have it as a "stat" that we would add in a seperate panel. Then let us specify x y for width and height so it will fit specific poker client (or better just let us pick site with the x,y already entered). Add z for border thickness and give us an option to pick colors on the fly like its done in the poker clients (stars or ftp have this part figured out pretty good).

This would probably be fairly simple thing to do, all you have to do is figure out best way to execute it.

While you are at it, possible to see player icon/border color in the lobby? If no, is it available in TableTracker? If yes to that, will there be a free version of tabletracker in PT4?
We don't have plans to introduce a functions like you are describing at this time but it is an interesting and different idea - thanks for mentioning it.

It is my understanding that TableTracker in PT4 will function substantially the same as it does in PT3 - pricing included.

- Kraada
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12-07-2011 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
Dont know if anything like this is already implemented, but here it is.
I would like to see an option to add "border" to player squares at the tables.This is one of the main reason I have to use the on-site notes system, because it allows to add colored borders for notes, while PT3 only gives us an icon.
The PT4 notes icon includes a colored boarder which matches the color you set in the notes for the player. This is not exactly what you asked for, but the functionality is the same.

- TT

Last edited by PokerTracker; 12-07-2011 at 08:38 PM.
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12-07-2011 , 09:54 PM
As long as they are easily distinguishable it's definitely a step in the right direction.

When I multitable, having big colored borders that poker sites provide really help me with playing and recognizing opponent types during play. That's the main reason I stick to site's own notes system instead of PT's. Having an option of PT's own border around player pods at the tables would pretty much seal the deal when it comes to taking notes with PT vs sites own system.

Thanks for considerations
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12-07-2011 , 11:17 PM
I guess it's a non-issue if you're a TableTracker user, but even if there is coloured boxes in PT4 I'd still need to use the client's colours for seeing them in the lobby - so some form of sync would also be good (would be handy anyhow imo just to have the notes always in two places at once).
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12-08-2011 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
So if not automatic, please add "current game type only" to the hud, that's all that matters.

Also, if not done yet, please add one-click filters for NL/PL/FL/HI/HILO to the general filtering section so there's no need to go through possible dozens of different levels to be able to filter for PLO high only.
Hate to be self-quoting but I'm still hopeful to see an answer of "yes, that's exactly what we're releasing in beta version 2".

If you don't have the coding going on for that actual feature already, please please please add a game type field in the database so it's at least possible to make a distinction between the games in the future (if not otherways then by building custom stats). This is REALLY important for people playing more than 1 type of holdem and 1 type of omaha. Mixing the stats in the hud is very bad and the "current level only" is too restricting.
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12-09-2011 , 05:10 AM
pasita - in PT4 HUD stats will be based only on the current game type (Holdem, Omaha Hi, Omaha Hi/Lo).

--WhiteRider
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12-09-2011 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
When I multitable, having big colored borders that poker sites provide really help me with playing and recognizing opponent types during play. That's the main reason I stick to site's own notes system instead of PT's. Having an option of PT's own border around player pods at the tables would pretty much seal the deal when it comes to taking notes with PT vs sites own system.

Thanks for considerations
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Originally Posted by _dave_
I guess it's a non-issue if you're a TableTracker user, but even if there is coloured boxes in PT4 I'd still need to use the client's colours for seeing them in the lobby - so some form of sync would also be good (would be handy anyhow imo just to have the notes always in two places at once).
Thanks for the feedback guys. Our note taking development is already complete and ready to be released in the upcoming beta. PokerTracker supports 20 different sites and networks for importing in PT4, 18 for live importing (we continue to import your old hands from legacy networks for record keeping); if we build in a feature that integrates with one network's notes system then we need to build that feature for ALL networks. It is our policy to leave nobody behind, we do not build exclusively for Stars - we build for all networks equally. To create such a feature for all 18 networks would be a nightmare, by the time we finished integrating our note colors for all 18 our developers would have to start all over again as the poker room clients are updated - its not a feasible task. That is why we leave all poker-room integration to our third party development partners... our specialty is broad integration across multiple clients while their specialty is custom tools for one or more specific client as it integrates with PokerTracker 4.

So if you are a third party developer looking to find a new product that might be in high demand by developing applications for PokerTracker 4 users, listen to the suggestions from _dave_ and ra]\\[dom posted above - this information is available in the PokerTracker 4 database schema, we welcome this kind of third party innovation!

- TT
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12-09-2011 , 02:03 PM
I almost forgot to include this link to a review of the alpha for those of you who want to learn more about how PokerTracker 4's workflow will change - http://pokerfuse.com/features/in-dep...okertracker-4/. Comments and ideas please, we love feedback!

- TT
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12-09-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
- this information is available in the PokerTracker 4 database schema
... which can be found at www.???
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12-09-2011 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
... which can be found at www.???
The schema will be made public once PokerTracker 4 is released.
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12-10-2011 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
pasita - in PT4 HUD stats will be based only on the current game type (Holdem, Omaha Hi, Omaha Hi/Lo).

--WhiteRider
OK, that's a start. Lot's of work coming up for the holidays to separate for the betting structures by custom stats. I find it weird that this is not available by default, but maybe I'm one of the few players who play FL and NL and PL versions of the games.
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12-10-2011 , 09:44 AM
Could u please make in Replayer the next feature:

to show in Replayer not only Pot Ods, but also %%

For example: Right now in replayer Pot 184.80 Odds 1.83:1
I would like to be Pot 184.80 Odds 1.83:1 (35.3%)

Please, add %% to pot odds. I really need this. It is very simply just add the next calculation: 1/(1.83+1) * 100%
But realy save a lot of time on manual calculation, because hands equities shows in %%
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12-10-2011 , 11:48 AM
+1 to pot odds in %. Could be an option or just have both show up.
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12-10-2011 , 12:13 PM
dandy, ra]\\[dom:

Already done! This is currently functional in the PT4 replayer - you get to see both.

- Kraada
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12-10-2011 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
OK, that's a start. Lot's of work coming up for the holidays to separate for the betting structures by custom stats. I find it weird that this is not available by default, but maybe I'm one of the few players who play FL and NL and PL versions of the games.
There is no reason to create custom stats in this scenario, we also filter the bet type. If you play with the same opponents in limit and No Limit games, the stats will not be combined together in your HUD. We know that players are mixing their game types more frequently, we are beginning to roll in features such as this to accomodate these mix game players. Not all of our mix game friendly features will be available upon the launch of public beta, they will be added in over time as we get more feedback from users.

-TT
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12-10-2011 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dandy
Could u please make in Replayer the next feature:

to show in Replayer not only Pot Ods, but also %%

For example: Right now in replayer Pot 184.80 Odds 1.83:1
I would like to be Pot 184.80 Odds 1.83:1 (35.3%)

Please, add %% to pot odds. I really need this. It is very simply just add the next calculation: 1/(1.83+1) * 100%
But realy save a lot of time on manual calculation, because hands equities shows in %%

Here is a screen shot as an example. Enjoy!
- TT

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12-10-2011 , 01:48 PM
Sweet, I like the layout and design of replayer, big clear buttons. Got some comments if I may.

1) Where are the next/previous HH buttons? Left & right arrow would fit nicely next to HH pulldown menu.

2) First look at the pot odds seems a bit confusing with a "-" seperator, maybe (24%) would fit better.

3) Is it possible to resize replayer? I find the player names a bit small and would love to have text bigger.

Carry on.
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12-10-2011 , 02:05 PM
Do you know the date of beta release?
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12-10-2011 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dandy
Do you know the date of beta release?
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12-10-2011 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
There is no reason to create custom stats in this scenario, we also filter the bet type.
-TT
Whooa, thanks for the clarification, I can now actually spend the holiday period with family

EDIT: regarding the replayer, I hope you still keep the hotkeys (arrow, ctrl-arrow) available. The desing itself looks good, the tiny icons used in PT3 were... hmmm... not so good.
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12-10-2011 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
EDIT: regarding the replayer, I hope you still keep the hotkeys (arrow, ctrl-arrow) available. The desing itself looks good, the tiny icons used in PT3 were... hmmm... not so good.
Replayer control via the keyboard is still available. Another hotkey you may find interesting is the switch to the control key when moving HUD items in a locked profile , I personally find that very handy. We no longer use a right-click for this functionality like we did in PT3 because right-clicking is reserved exclusively for menu items now.

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Originally Posted by dandy
Do you know the date of beta release?
Yes, we now have a date in mind. Thats all we can say at the moment, we hope to be able to make a date announcement next week.
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