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11-16-2011 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
Do you feel like PT3 is a great product right now? I switched to HEM because of all the bugs and annoyances that came with PT3. I still give PT3 a try every few months, last time it was when HEM2 was released. I still feel like it doesnt perform or do things as well as HM1 does.
this is just nonsense... PT3 was and is a way moar stable program than HEM... PT3 was working for me like i want it to work each day of the year while I read at least one time in 3 weeks stuff like "HEM not working on deep tables" "HEM HUD not working on CAP tables" etc... when stars changed something PT had an update an hour later, HEM took sometimes up to a week to get it fixed...

for me the only real advantages in HEM are they you can filter for the exact postions and not only EP, MP, CO, BL and that Pokertracker3 housekeeping takes way to long and if you don't do it very frequently ur HUD becomes slow as **** (which doesnt seem to be an issue with HEM)

however these 2 points are not really enough for me to use HEM so I will wait patiently until PT4 is released... Tbh I wouldn't change my Tracker/Database now anyways with 1.5 month left in 2011. I hope nevertheless that they somehow have a moar or less bugfree version beginning 2012
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11-16-2011 , 04:28 PM
This is great. Now get crackin on PT Stud/Draw.
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11-16-2011 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
this is just nonsense... PT3 was and is a way moar stable program
Thanx for sharing your experience, greatly appreciated - if we ever get in a fight we know you have our back ;-) We try our best to avoid the PT vs HEM argument, we just want players to choose whatever is best for their needs - and hopefully they choose PokerTracker after using our free trial period.

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Originally Posted by Morph3us
This is great. Now get crackin on PT Stud/Draw.
I have unfortunate news to share, the market for stud and draw is too small; we couldn't make enough to devote the development time required to develop for Stud or Mixed Games at this stage. This of course makes me sad, as I am an avid mixed games player (check out the Stud and Other Games forum archives to see the tons of strategy posts I have contributed to over the past decade under the screen name *TT*). But there is a caveat - in the event the interest in mixed games improves in the future to a point where it would financially make sense then we can revisit stud and draw games at that time. We are at least 5-10 years away from that scenario though, probably longer. Brings a tear to my eye, but I have come to accept this reality at this stage of the evolution of poker.

- TT
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11-16-2011 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
off topic, but its so funny that we want to share it with you all... did you see "Ben's Lamb" at the WSOP final table? Here are two hysterical videos of his silly antics... the best parts were not broadcast on TV, if anyone has any home made videos of Ben's Lamb, please let us know - I am literally laughing out loud thinking back on how funny he was at Ben Lamb's WSOP Main Event Final Table!



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- TT
Who cares about ben's lamb, those are some hot chicks. thanx for sharing
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11-18-2011 , 05:54 AM
whoa you're *TT*? cool. Are you the same 'pokertracker' that post on leggo?

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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Potential PokerTracker 4 users - we need your help:

We are debating internally along with our hand picked alpha testers to determine the order of positions listed in the PT4 default HUDs. Which do you prefer, in order of positions listed left to right:
  1. EP MP CO BUT SB BB
  2. SB BB EP MP CO BUT

Traditionally PT3's HUDs used the 1st option, but we also see the value in having the most active position on the left hand side of the screen so your eyes go directly to the most important positional stat. Which one do you prefer and why? Your feedback will help us finish the HUD design, please let us know!
Option 1 because 2 is so tilting to look at. 2 might make more sense logically but my eyes immediately go to ep/mp first in option 2 anyways and I end at SB BB. It's just really weird to look at.

Last edited by guitarizt; 11-18-2011 at 06:13 AM.
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11-18-2011 , 06:17 AM
Thanks for your vote, guitarizt!

"PokerTracker" is our support login, which several of the PokerTracker team use to answer support questions (on this and other forums).
*TT* is one person who answers, yes, especially in the PT4 threads.

--WhiteRider
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11-18-2011 , 02:55 PM
I like option 1 BY FAR. Option 2 never really made much sense to me because that's not how the table action starts with the SB. So, EP>MP>CO>BTN>SB>BB is the order of action and PT3 always should have had it listed this way.

Will we be treated to another preview at least before the end of the month?
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11-18-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarizt
whoa you're *TT*? cool. Are you the same 'pokertracker' that post on leggo?
Yes, that was me who answered your questions on Leggo. Glad I was able to help! You can usually tell who is responding on the PT support account because we all add our signatures (when we remember to do so of course).

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Originally Posted by Klever187
Will we be treated to another preview at least before the end of the month?

Yes, in a few more days actually. We hope to cut the voiceover this weekend, or Monday at the latest.

- TT
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11-24-2011 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Hopefully this week, I am personally writing the script for the HUD preview video today!
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Yes, in a few more days actually. We hope to cut the voiceover this weekend, or Monday at the latest.
you guys are really not great with deadlines, huh
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11-24-2011 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whatwonder
you guys are really not great with deadlines, huh
We are at the mercy of our voiceover artist's schedule but the voice was cut yesterday, vand video is being edited right now as a matter of fact.

PS: we laugh in the face of deadlines - quality is more important than punctuality ;-)
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11-24-2011 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
We are at the mercy of our voiceover artist's schedule but the voice was cut yesterday, vand video is being edited right now as a matter of fact.

PS: we laugh in the face of deadlines - quality is more important than punctuality ;-)
- TT
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11-24-2011 , 05:33 PM
If I buy pokertracker 3 now, do I get a free update?

Will the database schema be open so that the database can be easily used by other programs?

Mvh
Inga
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11-24-2011 , 05:41 PM
Yes to both, Inga.

--WhiteRider
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11-28-2011 , 05:23 AM
Please take a look at our new Feature Preview Video #5 which discusses the PokerTracker 4 HUD Profiles, and the use of the HUD Profile Editor with some real-word examples of how the Vector HUD Engine works.


As before, we still need your feedback. We are nearing the release of the PokerTracker 4 free public beta, but there is still time to adjust our features if qualified input is given that recommends that we move in a different direction. The more feedback we get, the better the future will be for players who use PokerTracker 4 - please speak up, we are listening!

- TT
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11-28-2011 , 05:52 AM
looks sooo good!
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11-28-2011 , 08:08 AM
Man can't believe how user friendly PT4 is gonna be. Plus the "Tools" window already looks damn near identical to what I have on my custom pop-up that I'll probably just end up going with the default pop-up in PT4. You guys have definitely EXCEEDED my expectations and now I understand why there have been so many delays.

Good Job fellers
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11-28-2011 , 08:33 AM
PT4 is gonna be an industry killer. HM2 is so bad it is laughable and the guys at PokerTracker must be overly happy with how bad it is.
Everything about PT4 is looking polished and so easy to use! I'm genuinely excited about this product coming to market and can't wait for it!

Ship it soon guys!
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11-28-2011 , 11:19 AM
Will there be a way to set the default values for the HUD? Like if I want to create a custom hud in which all fields have a certain background color (or font, or foreground, or transparrency etc.) can I set this as a default somewhere or do I have to manually change the property for every stat I add? Also, can I change many fields at once? Like in the HUD profile editor, select an existing HUD profile, select all stats in the left hand pane and set a property (for all the stats) on the upper right. Possible?
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11-28-2011 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by elcid
Will there be a way to set the default values for the HUD? Like if I want to create a custom hud in which all fields have a certain background color (or font, or foreground, or transparrency etc.) can I set this as a default somewhere or do I have to manually change the property for every stat I add? Also, can I change many fields at once? Like in the HUD profile editor, select an existing HUD profile, select all stats in the left hand pane and set a property (for all the stats) on the upper right. Possible?
There are no methods of saving a property default at this time, but that is a good suggestion I will add to the list of potential ideas for future development that we can consider. Thnx!

Yes, you can change many fields at once my clicking on each stat while holding down the shift key - we neglected to show this in the video, I'll make a quick alt cut video today so you can see how this is done.

Also thank you for the good words guys, we have worked really hard on PT4 for so long.. it really lifts our spirits when we know that PT4 will probably meet or maybe even exceed your expectations as a foundation for the future of online play.
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11-28-2011 , 01:01 PM
what about the price of upgrading from PT3 to PT4?

will be bigger than 33% of initial full paid price for a [PT3 Holdem - Full Version] license?

Last edited by lien; 11-28-2011 at 01:22 PM.
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11-28-2011 , 02:07 PM
At 5:28 in the vid the positions are shown in the pulldown menu. First, thanks for separating the blinds. Second, please add "HJ" before "CO". That way there's a position for each seat in a 6-max table (MP would be 6max UG) and no need to tweak the database as with PT3.
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11-28-2011 , 02:13 PM
Not quite sure if I missed this somehow, but is PT4 able to automatically assign my favourite PLO hud on a PLO table and FL08 HUD on a FL08 table? And automatically filter the databases so it won't display villain's PLO data on my FL08 table, or NLHE data on my FLHE table?
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11-28-2011 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
At 5:28 in the vid the positions are shown in the pulldown menu. First, thanks for separating the blinds. Second, please add "HJ" before "CO". That way there's a position for each seat in a 6-max table (MP would be 6max UG) and no need to tweak the database as with PT3.
6-max positions have historically been labeled SB BB UTG MP CO BTN. I'm pretty sure that their EP == UTG. No positions need added.
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11-28-2011 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
Not quite sure if I missed this somehow, but is PT4 able to automatically assign my favourite PLO hud on a PLO table and FL08 HUD on a FL08 table? And automatically filter the databases so it won't display villain's PLO data on my FL08 table, or NLHE data on my FLHE table?
Yes it is - it wasn't discussed but there was a section that showed the Profile Select window. On this window you can, away from the table, set any HUD to be used however you like. You can set it to a very wide range (all games, or all games at PokerStars), or a very narrow range (all full ring fixed limit o/8 at iPoker), or anywhere in between, it's totally up to you.

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Originally Posted by BatsShadow
6-max positions have historically been labeled SB BB UTG MP CO BTN. I'm pretty sure that their EP == UTG. No positions need added.
BatsShadow is correct - for 6-max, MP is always the hijack and UTG is always the player one further away from the button than the hijack. So for 6 handed play and smaller we have individual options for every position.

For those full ring players, at 7 handed we have two MP positions and one EP position, at 8 handed we have two of each. At 9 handed we have three MP positions and two EP positions and at 10 handed we have three of each.

So there is only multiple positions per type if you play full ring, not 6 max. 6maxers will be able to specify each position individually using our new division methodology.
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11-28-2011 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
And automatically filter the databases so it won't display villain's PLO data on my FL08 table, or NLHE data on my FLHE table?
Not automatically at this time, you must manually enable current cash limit only. Once the beta is released, please give us feedback for further consideration.

- TT
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