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10-24-2011 , 08:11 PM
if you're a shortstacker playing yatahay, it's broken when you don't shove pre?

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However, unless you only play heads-up poker, a player’s expected win (the All-In EV stat) and actual amount won lines essentially can’t ever actually be expected to converge, regardless of the software you are using.
would it not be accurate if 3+ way postflop allins were ignored completely?
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10-24-2011 , 08:23 PM
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would it not be accurate if 3+ way postflop allins were ignored completely?
Yes, but you could do better -- you could ignore the corner cases while keeping multiway pots where all the players at AI make it to showdown.

For full stackers, the point at issue seems a bit academic.
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10-24-2011 , 08:31 PM
The article suggests that (PT3 method) introduces a small bias towards "lucky". unless I'm misunderstanding what you suggest?
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10-24-2011 , 11:02 PM
I feel that an examination of EQ for a single hand, even repeated, is valid. But, converting that EQ to EV and then tracking a continuation of that EV under the guise of 'luck' is far from valid.

The only luck I see in poker is when your opponent is holding AA to your KK but collapses from a heart attack and his nubile girlfriend (who's father is a commercial banker and owns a pub) wants to cry on your shoulder. That's luck.
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10-25-2011 , 12:54 PM
I have asked the article's author to chime in to answer your questions _dave_.

- TT
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10-25-2011 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
The article suggests that (PT3 method) introduces a small bias towards "lucky". unless I'm misunderstanding what you suggest?
Yes.
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10-26-2011 , 11:51 AM
and...what about the new note editor? similar to notecaddy?
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10-26-2011 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ManhattanCat
and...what about the new note editor? similar to notecaddy?

We are taking a different path, our users will find it to be a cleaner & more efficient method that doesn't clutter the space while giving full free-form note taking capabilities combined with automation. We have shown the alpha note editor in previous preview videos, we are not ready to go into greater detail beyond what was previously shown because the back-end functionality is being coded for this as I type. The note system is a major coding project for us, the note editor is radically different, but so simple to use. Sometimes the simpler it is for end-user , the more complicated the back end work must be - the note editor is a great example because of how we are in integrating NoteTracker.
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10-30-2011 , 08:16 AM
Will there be an option to add a custom rakeback/bonuses graph?
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10-30-2011 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Min
Will there be an option to add a custom rakeback/bonuses graph?

We are considering ways to track bonuses, but it may not be ready in time for the PT4 beta launch. As you may already know, PokerTracker's developers are sticklers for accuracy. This means we will not just slap in a method of tracking bonuses unless we can rectify the graphs and reports so the amount is 100% accurate - and that is a lot harder to do than it appears. For example if you play tournaments and cash games then which side does the bonus get tracked on - keep in mind that both tournaments and cash games are tracked separately using separate stats due to the unique needs that cannot be conjoined between the two categories.

Long story short, we will do something... the question is when. It will take a lot of development resources to create a unified solution that is accurate. Given time, this will be included - it is on our agenda.

- TT
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10-30-2011 , 07:49 PM
Let there be a pulldown> Add bonus to Cash or Tournament winnings. Bam! Next.
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10-31-2011 , 01:01 AM
Nor sure I can see a problem here. Bonus/rakeback for cash stored in the cash side and for tourney stored in the tourney side... or perhaps a third table that stores both and only displayable on a 'day' basis... or perhaps leave it until a bankroll tracker sees the light of day ... trying to be constructive here.
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10-31-2011 , 01:49 AM
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Let there be a pulldown> Add bonus to Cash or Tournament winnings. Bam! Next.
Although we aren't perfect, our team tries to only add new features when we can do it "right". Your recommendation is a fraction of what we envision... rather than roll out a tiny component of the vision we tend to wait until the full vision can be executed.

Do it right the first time - and thats what we intend to do. Its going to take some time to get it right, but it is on our agenda - probably as a post-release feature. That is one of the cool things about us, we keep developing new features after we release our main version.
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10-31-2011 , 10:32 AM
I play various games and constantly have to type in my game type before taking notes for example, "6MAX: "villain called UTG open w/89o from CO" or whatever and then when I'm playing HU "HU: "villain ch/f on 892r" I was wondering if you guys could make tabs in the NOTES section. Lets say, tourney, 6max, and HU or something similar to that so that if I run into the same guy in a different game type I just click on the corresponding tab for that particular game. Sound doable?

Or Maybe custom tabs we can label?

Oh and being able to preview the HUD while configuring would be awesome

Last edited by Klever187; 10-31-2011 at 10:44 AM.
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10-31-2011 , 06:25 PM
The problem with multiple tabs would be that it would be difficult (and confusing) for many people who multi-table to manage effectively.

We have many new plans for the note editor which should improve your experience considerably, but at this time, this is not one of them.

The HUD preview, however, is a different story. Once you see the video we have planned for the HUD, we're sure you're going to be very impressed.

- Kraada
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10-31-2011 , 06:59 PM
Whats the over/under for PT4 beta? Dec 31?
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10-31-2011 , 07:12 PM
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Whats the over/under for PT4 beta? Dec 31?
2014
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10-31-2011 , 07:47 PM
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Whats the over/under for PT4 beta? Dec 31?
We wont comment on that right now, except to say that will be before then if we get all of the remaining projects done in time. We would prefer to not tip our hat until we are ready to share the beta with you all, we do not want to release a beta that instantly draws complaints - we are aiming to do it right the first time around to the best of our abilities.

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2014
I'll take the under. What odds are you willing to lay, and for what price? I'll buy up 100% of the action personally ;-)

- TT
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10-31-2011 , 11:44 PM
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I'll take the under. What odds are you willing to lay, and for what price? I'll buy up 100% of the action personally ;-)

- TT
Would you take the under on Dec 1st 2011?
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11-02-2011 , 12:26 PM
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Would you take the under on Dec 1st 2011?

Our competitor just launched their software for sale yesterday, we are content with giving them a few days of exposure without making a scene. Expect our beta within the next few months, you would not want us to rush development - it will be worth the wait.
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11-02-2011 , 01:15 PM
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Our competitor just launched their software for sale yesterday, we are content with giving them a few days of exposure without making a scene. Expect our beta within the next few months, you would not want us to rush development - it will be worth the wait.
Sigh
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11-02-2011 , 04:29 PM
I just hope that when the beta comes out, things will not be so deeply engraved in stone that no changes will be possible. Everyone out here is putting great hopes in your alpha testers finding out all functionality issues (be it actual problems or missing/unoptimally implemented features).
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11-02-2011 , 06:27 PM
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Expect our beta within the next few months.
what?!
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11-03-2011 , 09:29 AM
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what?!
this lol ...
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11-04-2011 , 12:41 PM
I am a HEM user who is considering switching to PT...I have none of my original HH's but have simply relied on the export feature of HEM to back up my hands for future import. HEM exports all hands to a series of .txt files.

am I correct in assuming thatthese .txt files will work for me to rebuild my database if I go to PT?
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