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10-04-2011 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
That was a waste of 8 minutes to watch latest preview. Very similar functionality is already in some of your competitors software. This did not look revolutionary.
If you play in US Dollars and manage your accounts in US Dollars then I would agree that this video was not geared towards your needs. But keep ion mind you would be in the minority, the majority of players are no longer maintaining their accounts exclusivly in US Dollars.

However we beg to differ, our competitors offer currency management that it is night and day different from what is offered in PokerTracker 4. Our main competitor provides a fixed exchange rate for three currencies against the US Dollar and separate stats columns for each currency. We offer a fluid daily conversion which is automatically converted based on the bank rate for that day - along with stats that convert on the fly to your My Currency preference - while also offering the stats in the Game Currency you played in when it is relevant to your needs as a player. Approximately 70% of all online players in the world need this function and growing as markets in Europe divest from the one world-one network model. This is the first time true currency management has been provided seamlessly. It greatly simplifies the process for players - it is one of the most requested wishes for change that we received from users, and we delivered it!


PS: on a related note, someone asked me in private yesterday how come we haven't released a HUD video yet. The HUD design is one of the last steps of development because it cannot be finalized until all the other stats are complete.. with that said, you can expect a video which showcases our new HUD system within the month.

-TT
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10-04-2011 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
It is one of the most requested features when speaking with non-USA players
Well, in a way I'm glad to hear profitable online poker is not dying any time soon
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10-04-2011 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
I'm glad to hear profitable online poker is not dying any time soon

We agree ;-)
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10-04-2011 , 03:21 PM
I play on european sites with different currencies and I fail to see the significance! I mean I care about bb/100 and "total amount won". That's it. How will the enhancements help me? Am I missing something?
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10-04-2011 , 03:47 PM
Perhaps an example will make it clearer. Let's say you're playing in two currencies: A and B. Let's stipulate that the conversion rate is 1A = 2B.

If you're looking at a report that shows your winnings for each session you might see that in your first session you lost 15A, in your second session you won 10B, and in your third session you won 7A. If you have My Currency set to B, everything will be converted for you in your My Currency stats. So your first session would show a loss of 7.5B, your second session a win of 10B and your third session a win of 3.5B (for a net win of 6B). If you had My Currency set to A, everything will be shown in terms of currency A - or you could use a third currency you're not even playing in. It doesn't make sense to add up winnings in A and B together without conversion - so we won't do that.

We use the stats you would expect to see when you expect to see them - so when you're looking at a Hand report, you'll see data in Game Currency. But when you're looking at a collection, we show My Currency always and Game Currency only if it makes sense - if you're looking at a report showing your winnings by Position and you've played sessions in two currencies, it only makes sense to show your button winnings combined and converted.

The stats are laid out intelligently and easily so that all you need to do is pick what you want for My Currency, and PT4 will do the rest.

- Kraada
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10-04-2011 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Perhaps an example will make it clearer. Let's say you're playing in two currencies: A and B. Let's stipulate that the conversion rate is 1A = 2B.
But I don't play in two currencies and going by the small number of foreign currency tables on a large site like Pokerstars I'm not convinced multi-currency is such a big deal. The beauty of playing in the default currency, US$, is that it is the great equalizer. It's one of the reasons why all major international financial transactions are conducted in US$; everyone knows where they stand. The only time I need to factor in my own currency is at deposit/withdrawal time.

But, who really cares? Like I said, for me this is a ho-hum issue but if it floats someone else's boat then have at it. I'm still waiting for real functionality to be unveiled, and that won't take a HUD video to showcase.
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10-05-2011 , 06:25 AM
New currency tools look pretty good.

Anyway, would it be possible to have a stat to track the amount of partypoints (or equivalent on other sites) you've earned? Specifically on Party, they use contributed rather than dealt rake to calculate this now and also there is the jackpot rake which doesn't yield any partypoints to take into account.
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10-05-2011 , 12:16 PM
Statistics for various forms of rake will be included by default so building custom statistics like these will be much more easily done in PT4. We are also looking into some other options which might even be preferable to custom statistics.

- Kraada
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10-06-2011 , 12:15 PM
PokerTracker sponsored pro Steve O'Dwyer is in the final 3 at the London EPT Main Event! Please help us cheer Steve on! This is his his third final table in 2 months, he won the Pro-Am EPIC Poker Tour event in August while wearing the PokerTracker brand as well. Since working with PokerTracker over the past two months his results have skyrocketed! Steve is a good friend of PokerTracker's, we are so happy for him!





Funny story - Steve took it upon himself to cut the PokerTracker patch in 1/2 because the size of the patch did not conform to EPT televised rules. Now that is what we call devotion - thank's Steve! Now go and take it down, according to PokerTRacker 4's currency conversion, £750,00 is worth $1,153,924.27 for first place!

Updates: http://www.pokerstars.tv/poker-chann...stars-ept.html or http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...on/main-event/
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10-07-2011 , 04:17 AM
Hi PT staff,

I was watching a training video tonight with the instructor using HEM, and I saw him adjust his HUD placement. The thing is, he was able to move individuals LINES, not the entire block of HUD stats. I checked the comments and saw this referred to as HUD "panels", though I can't really say if that's the official name for such a feature.

I watched all of the PT4 new feature videos and never saw this feature mentioned, but was hoping if anything had been promised here on the forums someone would know. I'm crossing my fingers, as this would be SUPER useful!

Are you considering this feature for PT4?

Thanks for your time.
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10-07-2011 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Lopez
Hi PT staff,

I was watching a training video tonight with the instructor using HEM, and I saw him adjust his HUD placement. The thing is, he was able to move individuals LINES, not the entire block of HUD stats. I checked the comments and saw this referred to as HUD "panels", though I can't really say if that's the official name for such a feature.

I watched all of the PT4 new feature videos and never saw this feature mentioned, but was hoping if anything had been promised here on the forums someone would know. I'm crossing my fingers, as this would be SUPER useful!

Are you considering this feature for PT4?

Thanks for your time.
This is doable in PT3 as well if you set up multiple stat "groups" for your HUD and then move the groups individually.
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10-07-2011 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Peligroso
This is doable in PT3 as well if you set up multiple stat "groups" for your HUD and then move the groups individually.
Indeed

If you like you can use a new group for every stat Ben !
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10-07-2011 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Furo86
Indeed

If you like you can use a new group for every stat Ben !
Yes, this is true. Its time consuming to set up, but you can create multiple table groups to represent an individual stat, or a group of stats. Each group is moved together on the table, which means the more groups you have - the more time it will take to get positioning perfect on the table. For those of you who like a dedicated popup for each stat shown on the table, you can use Table Groups to accomplish this goal. Each table group has four opptions to choose from:
  1. Everyone
  2. Everyone but Hero
  3. Hero Only
  4. Table Averages

We have seen some very creative use of Table Groups using the Hero Only option, this way you can create a HUD that shows stats that show how you appear in your opponents eyes - this is a VERY powerful customization feature of both PokerTracker 4 as well as PokerTracker 3!

PS: Congratulations to Steve O'Dwyer, he finished in 2nd place while wearing a PokerTracker patch at the EPT London Main Event.

-TT
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10-07-2011 , 06:53 PM
just a random question can i resale my pokertracker now that i dont use it?
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10-07-2011 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JUS2FNLUCKY
just a random question can i resale my pokertracker now that i dont use it?

We match the same policy of the majority of software developers, therefore PokerTracker licenses may not be resold.

-TT
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10-11-2011 , 10:26 PM
Potential PokerTracker 4 users - we need your help:

We are debating internally along with our hand picked alpha testers to determine the order of positions listed in the PT4 default HUDs. Which do you prefer, in order of positions listed left to right:
  1. EP MP CO BUT SB BB
  2. SB BB EP MP CO BUT

Traditionally PT3's HUDs used the 1st option, but we also see the value in having the most active position on the left hand side of the screen so your eyes go directly to the most important positional stat. Which one do you prefer and why? Your feedback will help us finish the HUD design, please let us know!
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10-12-2011 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Potential PokerTracker 4 users - we need your help:
  1. EP MP CO BUT SB BB
  2. SB BB EP MP CO BUT
I very much prefer option 2. Not only is it in the order of action, but also the most used stats are on the ends where they are easy to find.
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10-12-2011 , 03:56 AM
would prefer
BUT SB BB EP MP CO
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10-12-2011 , 04:01 AM
When it will be available?
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10-12-2011 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Potential PokerTracker 4 users - we need your help:

We are debating internally along with our hand picked alpha testers to determine the order of positions listed in the PT4 default HUDs. Which do you prefer, in order of positions listed left to right:
  1. EP MP CO BUT SB BB
  2. SB BB EP MP CO BUT

Traditionally PT3's HUDs used the 1st option, but we also see the value in having the most active position on the left hand side of the screen so your eyes go directly to the most important positional stat. Which one do you prefer and why? Your feedback will help us finish the HUD design, please let us know!
please please do option 1...
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10-12-2011 , 10:04 AM
option 1, and dont forget about fr players with multiple ep mp positions
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10-12-2011 , 12:05 PM
1 as it is now
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10-12-2011 , 02:23 PM
Surely this sort of thing should be configurable and not set in stone at development time

I prefer 2 to 1, but in the past playing 6m SnG or 10m DoN I used SB BTN CO MP for the only positional stats I had on hud, ATS. so it'd show generally in decreasing frequency for a good player.
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10-12-2011 , 05:10 PM
I sometimes mix sites simultaneously. Will I be able to combine my aliases in order to get an accurate hourly rate/hands per hour, etc displayed? Still have seperate identites, but show the stats of both players (me) in real time. So, if I play a session on sites A, B, and C-concurrently, I'll be able to see the aggregate results. Also would like to be able to have only table time be recorded, shorter time before PT3 recognizes a new session. I believe it's 30 minutes rigtht now. 5-10 minutes would be preferred.
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10-12-2011 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Surely this sort of thing should be configurable and not set in stone at development time

I prefer 2 to 1, but in the past playing 6m SnG or 10m DoN I used SB BTN CO MP for the only positional stats I had on hud, ATS. so it'd show generally in decreasing frequency for a good player.
Bleedin' obvious
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